Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 17:29     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
If my kid was going to a group sleepover at another house, I'd prefer there were 2 adults home v. 1. If something goes wrong, I'd prefer there be 2 adults to deal with it. (Actually, even from the child molesting/intentionally sketchy behavior perspective, I assume it's less likely with 2 adults in the house rather than only 1... irrespective of gender.)
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 16:24     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:Dh and I are gay dads with twin elementary age daughters. They haven't been invited to or asked about inviting others to sleepovers, but probably will this year. After reading another thread about no sleepovers with the father present, I said something to dh, who stated that it was normal. I then commented that such a restriction obviously would not apply to us and he disagreed saying that he thought many kids would not stay at our house since we would be there with them.

So, would you let your daughter sleep over at a house where the father was there?
If not (or if not, if only the father) would you feel different if the dads were gay?


I would. But then again, I don't assume all men are child molesters.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 16:19     Subject: Re:Sleepover with gay dads
I am more likely to trust two gay dads than a straight couple. I'm straight btw and that is based on my personal experiences. I would not let my child spend the night with a mom/boyfriend set up, guns in the house or older brothers. Having said that, it's usually the ones you trust the most that are the dangerous ones. A real predator knows how to win your trust.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 15:56     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a regular straight dad, it's nice to know so many women think I am a pervert/rapist/flasher.


Yeah, this thread is insane. Sure, it is reasonable to want to know parents fairly well before a sleepover, but to not allow it if the Dad is present is crazy. The Dad is suppose to leave his own house? What is he suppose to do crash at a friend's? Just leave his wife for the night so crazy paranoid people don't worry when there doesn't seem to be any cause for concern other than all straight males must be predators?


+100 This thread is insane. I just can't believe this is even something that is discussed. Growing up, dads were involved in everything me and my friends did. They were our coaches, took us on camping trips, were home (without moms!!!!) during many a sleep over and "playdate" (though we just called it playing with friends :roll and were just as competent and involved in taking care of all of us as our moms. How disturbing that so many women let their irrational paranoia get in the way of their kids engaging in completly normal activities with people based solely on gender.
- A woman who grew up in the 90's
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 15:16     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to me that people are so rigid in their sexuality. I married a man but dated a woman so I wouldn't assume so much based on marital status or that someone might not be bi-sexual. But I don't really think child molesters have to do as much with sexual orientation as being damaged human beings.


No it doesn't. But men are child molesters 99% of the time... married or not.


This is not true at all.

What I find interesting, is so many of you are worried about the dads - but almost 30% of the time, children who are under 9 who are sexually assulted are assulted by somone in their own age group. So those of you who are worried about sleepovers - keep an eye out for those friends and brothers.

And FFS people, teach your young kids about sex and stop using dumb ass terms like "privates" and "wee wee" because you are just asking your kid to get molested.


Let's see how statistics works.

That means 70% of the time, children who are under 9 who are sexually assaulted are assaulted by someone NOT in their own age group.

40% of the time it is an acquaintance

and again, 99% of the time the perpetrator is male.

If men are so up in arms about being judged maybe they should work on MEN being less animals.


I'd be fascinated to see your statistics sources. The nearest I've found said men account for 96% of child molestation CONVICTIONS. And sadly convictions do not even come close to the number of molesters out there. Victims self report as low as 14% and as high as 25% that they were abused by at least one female.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 15:00     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:I would be comfortable with dads being present in the home of a sleepover if I knew the dad. I would also be fine with gay dads as host. To me, gay dads would be less concerning than straight dads for hosting girls at a sleepover.

Good luck with future sleepovers!


Same here -- gay dads are better than straight dads when it comes to the risk my DD would be molested.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 14:55     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to me that people are so rigid in their sexuality. I married a man but dated a woman so I wouldn't assume so much based on marital status or that someone might not be bi-sexual. But I don't really think child molesters have to do as much with sexual orientation as being damaged human beings.


No it doesn't. But men are child molesters 99% of the time... married or not.


This is not true at all.

What I find interesting, is so many of you are worried about the dads - but almost 30% of the time, children who are under 9 who are sexually assulted are assulted by somone in their own age group. So those of you who are worried about sleepovers - keep an eye out for those friends and brothers.

And FFS people, teach your young kids about sex and stop using dumb ass terms like "privates" and "wee wee" because you are just asking your kid to get molested.


Let's see how statistics works.

That means 70% of the time, children who are under 9 who are sexually assaulted are assaulted by someone NOT in their own age group.

40% of the time it is an acquaintance

and again, 99% of the time the perpetrator is male.

If men are so up in arms about being judged maybe they should work on MEN being less animals.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 14:53     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:I would be comfortable with dads being present in the home of a sleepover if I knew the dad. I would also be fine with gay dads as host. To me, gay dads would be less concerning than straight dads for hosting girls at a sleepover.

Good luck with future sleepovers!


Same here. DD has only had sleepovers with friends who we know the parents well, and I would probably be more lenient in that (if I didn't know you super well, but have met, been to your house, etc.) if the friend had two dads.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 14:48     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to me that people are so rigid in their sexuality. I married a man but dated a woman so I wouldn't assume so much based on marital status or that someone might not be bi-sexual. But I don't really think child molesters have to do as much with sexual orientation as being damaged human beings.


No it doesn't. But men are child molesters 99% of the time... married or not.


This is not true at all.

What I find interesting, is so many of you are worried about the dads - but almost 30% of the time, children who are under 9 who are sexually assulted are assulted by somone in their own age group. So those of you who are worried about sleepovers - keep an eye out for those friends and brothers.

And FFS people, teach your young kids about sex and stop using dumb ass terms like "privates" and "wee wee" because you are just asking your kid to get molested.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 14:41     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to me that people are so rigid in their sexuality. I married a man but dated a woman so I wouldn't assume so much based on marital status or that someone might not be bi-sexual. But I don't really think child molesters have to do as much with sexual orientation as being damaged human beings.


No it doesn't. But men are child molesters 99% of the time... married or not.


I think you don't understand how statistics and reporting works.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 14:39     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:Just because a woman is in the house, does not mean she would know or be willing to protect a child (she could be scared of the man). Likewise, plenty of women abuse kids.


+100. I'm sure no one thought anything of letting their kids sleep over at my house when I was a child. Single, straight mother with no boyfriend. I found out later she molested more than two of them. I thought it was just me and my sibs.


And I would only let my children go to sleepovers where I didn't know the other parents very well. Like spent time together socially frequently.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 14:02     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
I'm more worried about if there are guns in the house or if you are willing to administer an epi-pen to my son than if there is a dad or two in the house.

I know of more moms that have abused kids than dads.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 13:38     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huh, I give gay dads extra domesticty points, so I would not have an issue sending my child to you. Statistically, I think teenage brothers in the house are probably a bigger risk.


Statistically speaking I would think 2 gay dads is a lower risk than a straight father and probably even lower than straight mother.


They aren't. Because they are male.

Women are the lowest risk. Duh.


So because they are male, they are automatically going to molest the children in their care?


No.

But males (straight or gay) are far more likely to molest children, murder people, drive recklessly and a who host of other negative things.

You are hiding your head in the sand if you think a woman is more likely to molest a child than a man.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 13:30     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to me that people are so rigid in their sexuality. I married a man but dated a woman so I wouldn't assume so much based on marital status or that someone might not be bi-sexual. But I don't really think child molesters have to do as much with sexual orientation as being damaged human beings.


No it doesn't. But men are child molesters 99% of the time... married or not.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2016 13:14     Subject: Sleepover with gay dads
It's amazing to me that people are so rigid in their sexuality. I married a man but dated a woman so I wouldn't assume so much based on marital status or that someone might not be bi-sexual. But I don't really think child molesters have to do as much with sexual orientation as being damaged human beings.