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Anonymous wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. Policing parents like this is a way to teach mothers that their place is in the home.

No, but it "teaches" mothers AND fathers that their priority should be their children--whether in their home or away from home. Good parenting decisions matter.

Curious how old you are. Parents used to feel like they didn't have to be next to their kids constantly. People used to think that kids learning to navigate the world without parents was a part of learning how to grow up.

Not Pp, but How old are YOU? Because I'm in my 30s and when I was growing up, no one left 8 year olds alone in vacation rentals.

Also, please remember that back in the day when there was less helicoptering, kids learned early on not to let the dogs out in traffic or run in the road. The problem nowadays is that parents helicopter 90% of the time and then expect the kids to be able to figure it out when they throw them out on their own.

Nonsense. I'm a NP and also in my 30s. People (including me and friends) were definitely left alone in vacation rentals while parents went to get food, stayed at the beach a little longer, etc.

Nonsense? Huh? I didn't say no one did it. I didn't know anyone who did it. Were you smart enough to know not to let the dogs out?

Should I quote you? "When I was growing up, no one left 8 year olds alone in vacation rentals."

And no, I probably did stupid things like let the dogs out.

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Anonymous wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. Policing parents like this is a way to teach mothers that their place is in the home.

No, but it "teaches" mothers AND fathers that their priority should be their children--whether in their home or away from home. Good parenting decisions matter.

Curious how old you are. Parents used to feel like they didn't have to be next to their kids constantly. People used to think that kids learning to navigate the world without parents was a part of learning how to grow up.

Not Pp, but How old are YOU? Because I'm in my 30s and when I was growing up, no one left 8 year olds alone in vacation rentals.

Also, please remember that back in the day when there was less helicoptering, kids learned early on not to let the dogs out in traffic or run in the road. The problem nowadays is that parents helicopter 90% of the time and then expect the kids to be able to figure it out when they throw them out on their own.

Nonsense. I'm a NP and also in my 30s. People (including me and friends) were definitely left alone in vacation rentals while parents went to get food, stayed at the beach a little longer, etc.

Agree. That was part of growing up back then.

Do kids these days not get left alone until the day they go off to college?

Yes, because there is no difference between 8 and 20.

You sound really wise. Would you mind telling me what the cut-off age is?

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Anonymous wrote:So I suppose I should never be left one because mors than once, I have opened the door to get the mail or something left on the front t porch, and my asshole dog has squeezed by me. Or my dh hasn't locked the front door and my cunning escape artist knows how to use the door lever and flees.

In my house, EVERYONE knows how to retrieve our stupid animal because he is often smarted and quicker than our control systems.

I may be terrible at dog containment, but my kid can absolutely wrangle my runaway dog

Your dog needs training before it gets hit by a car or you get ticketed for a dog without a leash.

The kids shouldn't have been opening the door at all.

Yes. My dog needs training duh. And he's had it. And we have controls, all of which occasionally fail. Which is why the whole family is trained on how to call back and retrieve the little s***

Kids could have opened door to play in backyard, to get something from porch. Leaving a child home doesn't mean house arrest.

Ok, it doesn't really matter if anyone agrees with it or thinks it is ridiculous. The law in Delaware says they can't be alone, the kids were alone, they somehow let a stranger know they were alone (which is a terrible idea as well) & he reported it. The police had no choice but to follow up and were well within their rights to charge mom. Stupid law? Maybe. But it is the law and here in America we don't get to only follow the laws we like or even those we know. The onus is not on the police or the people of Delaware to inform mom of the laws, it is on mom to figure it out before she makes choices.

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Anonymous wrote:She just went down the street to grab food? Thats terrible she got locked up. I was home alone at that age.

It wasn't just down the street. She was about 5 miles away. They weren't in their own home. Those differences really matter.

This. Were they home and this was a neighbor, none of this probably would have happened. But in this case, the dogs got out for whatever reason, and the kids didn't know what to do so they chased them into traffic. W

The article says only the dogs were in front of a car. Not the kids. My dog is terrible and runs into the street all the time without being chased.
People are really extrapolating here.

It says the driver encountered the kids after the dogs ran out. Surely in a vacation home the dogs aren't just allowed to roam freely unfenced in the yard, so the kids must have let them out. Whether they ran out in the road after them or opened the door to the stranger who brought them back doesn't really matter. There is no scenario in which mom is away, dogs are running wild outside, and kids are dealing with strangers in order to handle the dogs that is OK.

Yeah There is the scenario in which my 9 year old is problem solving and perfectly capable of checking the street for the dogs, who could easy have gotten out through no real fault of the kids. This is just not a big deal.

Okay, explain the scenario in which the dogs open the door and escape into traffic on their own.

But you're right. Mom should have been charged with animal endangerment instead.

Why does anyone assume that the dog was able to get out of the house. Perhaps he was being walked and slipped his harness. Any number of things could have happened, including escaping a fenced yard because the gate wasn't securely latched. But go ahead and make the leap to charging the parent with animal endangerment without knowing any ... you know ... actual facts because it somehow feels good.

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Anonymous wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. Policing parents like this is a way to teach mothers that their place is in the home.

No, but it "teaches" mothers AND fathers that their priority should be their children--whether in their home or away from home. Good parenting decisions matter.

Curious how old you are. Parents used to feel like they didn't have to be next to their kids constantly. People used to think that kids learning to navigate the world without parents was a part of learning how to grow up.

Not Pp, but How old are YOU? Because I'm in my 30s and when I was growing up, no one left 8 year olds alone in vacation rentals.

Also, please remember that back in the day when there was less helicoptering, kids learned early on not to let the dogs out in traffic or run in the road. The problem nowadays is that parents helicopter 90% of the time and then expect the kids to be able to figure it out when they throw them out on their own.

Nonsense. I'm a NP and also in my 30s. People (including me and friends) were definitely left alone in vacation rentals while parents went to get food, stayed at the beach a little longer, etc.

Agree. That was part of growing up back then.

Do kids these days not get left alone until the day they go off to college?

Yes, because there is no difference between 8 and 20.

Anonymous wrote:So I suppose I should never be left one because mors than once, I have opened the door to get the mail or something left on the front t porch, and my asshole dog has squeezed by me. Or my dh hasn't locked the front door and my cunning escape artist knows how to use the door lever and flees.

In my house, EVERYONE knows how to retrieve our stupid animal because he is often smarted and quicker than our control systems.

I may be terrible at dog containment, but my kid can absolutely wrangle my runaway dog

Your dog needs training before it gets hit by a car or you get ticketed for a dog without a leash.

The kids shouldn't have been opening the door at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. Policing parents like this is a way to teach mothers that their place is in the home.

No, but it "teaches" mothers AND fathers that their priority should be their children--whether in their home or away from home. Good parenting decisions matter.

Curious how old you are. Parents used to feel like they didn't have to be next to their kids constantly. People used to think that kids learning to navigate the world without parents was a part of learning how to grow up.

Not Pp, but How old are YOU? Because I'm in my 30s and when I was growing up, no one left 8 year olds alone in vacation rentals.

Also, please remember that back in the day when there was less helicoptering, kids learned early on not to let the dogs out in traffic or run in the road. The problem nowadays is that parents helicopter 90% of the time and then expect the kids to be able to figure it out when they throw them out on their own.

Nonsense. I'm a NP and also in my 30s. People (including me and friends) were definitely left alone in vacation rentals while parents went to get food, stayed at the beach a little longer, etc.

Agree. That was part of growing up back then.

Do kids these days not get left alone until the day they go off to college?

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Anonymous wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. Policing parents like this is a way to teach mothers that their place is in the home.

No, but it "teaches" mothers AND fathers that their priority should be their children--whether in their home or away from home. Good parenting decisions matter.

Curious how old you are. Parents used to feel like they didn't have to be next to their kids constantly. People used to think that kids learning to navigate the world without parents was a part of learning how to grow up.

Not Pp, but How old are YOU? Because I'm in my 30s and when I was growing up, no one left 8 year olds alone in vacation rentals.

Also, please remember that back in the day when there was less helicoptering, kids learned early on not to let the dogs out in traffic or run in the road. The problem nowadays is that parents helicopter 90% of the time and then expect the kids to be able to figure it out when they throw them out on their own.

Nonsense. I'm a NP and also in my 30s. People (including me and friends) were definitely left alone in vacation rentals while parents went to get food, stayed at the beach a little longer, etc.

Nonsense? Huh? I didn't say no one did it. I didn't know anyone who did it. Were you smart enough to know not to let the dogs out?

So I suppose I should never be left one because mors than once, I have opened the door to get the mail or something left on the front t porch, and my asshole dog has squeezed by me. Or my dh hasn't locked the front door and my cunning escape artist knows how to use the door lever and flees.

In my house, EVERYONE knows how to retrieve our stupid animal because he is often smarted and quicker than our control systems.

I may be terrible at dog containment, but my kid can absolutely wrangle my runaway dog

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Anonymous wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. Policing parents like this is a way to teach mothers that their place is in the home.

No, but it "teaches" mothers AND fathers that their priority should be their children--whether in their home or away from home. Good parenting decisions matter.

Curious how old you are. Parents used to feel like they didn't have to be next to their kids constantly. People used to think that kids learning to navigate the world without parents was a part of learning how to grow up.

Not Pp, but How old are YOU? Because I'm in my 30s and when I was growing up, no one left 8 year olds alone in vacation rentals.

Also, please remember that back in the day when there was less helicoptering, kids learned early on not to let the dogs out in traffic or run in the road. The problem nowadays is that parents helicopter 90% of the time and then expect the kids to be able to figure it out when they throw them out on their own.

Nonsense. I'm a NP and also in my 30s. People (including me and friends) were definitely left alone in vacation rentals while parents went to get food, stayed at the beach a little longer, etc.

Her kids or grandchildren?

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Anonymous wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. Policing parents like this is a way to teach mothers that their place is in the home.

Truly one of the stupidest things I have heard on DCUM.

Why? Sounds like you must really have it figured out to judge others so freely. Please be generous and share your wisdom.

Because nothing about expecting a parent to follow the law and not leave kids who can't handle it alone suggests WOMEN need to not work. It suggests that PARENTS need to LITERALLY be home with their kids if they aren't mature enough to be alone.

Yes, usually the duty of staying home with kids is equally divided between dads and moms in our society.

Oh no, wait. It's really not.

I'm not sure what your point is. Yes, there are more SAHMs. Not neglecting your kids or breaking laws applies equally to both parents. If you think telling mom to follow the laws teaches her she has to stay home - well, that defies logic to such a degree that I can only assume you're unable to find a job anyway and have just become bitter as a result.

The police were called for whatever reason. However, they obviously found something problematic to go through the process of charging mom.

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Anonymous wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. Policing parents like this is a way to teach mothers that their place is in the home.

Truly one of the stupidest things I have heard on DCUM.

Why? Sounds like you must really have it figured out to judge others so freely. Please be generous and share your wisdom.

Because nothing about expecting a parent to follow the law and not leave kids who can't handle it alone suggests WOMEN need to not work. It suggests that PARENTS need to LITERALLY be home with their kids if they aren't mature enough to be alone.

Yes, usually the duty of staying home with kids is equally divided between dads and moms in our society.

Oh no, wait. It's really not.