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there is essentially no difference between being anti-Israel and antisemitic.

lol

I guess Sanders is self-loathing b/c he declined to speak at an AIPAC gathering.

“A Zionist? What does that mean? Want to define what the word is? Do I think Israel has the right to exist? Yeah, I do. Do I believe that the United States should be playing an even-handed role in terms of its dealings with the Palestinian community in Israel? Absolutely I do.

“Again, I think that you have volatile regions in the world, the Middle East is one of them, and the United States has got to work with other countries around the world to fight for Israel's security and existence at the same time as we fight for a Palestinian state where the people in that country can enjoy a decent standard of living, which is certainly not the case right now. My long-term hope is that instead of pouring so much military aid into Israel, into Egypt, we can provide more economic aid to help improve the standard of living of the people in that area.”

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/1.671646

In the 2017 budget proposal, the US is giving Israel 3.1 billion in security assistance.

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Anonymous wrote:If the Israelis are so keen to share buses with others, perhaps they could also share land and natural resources as well and stop repressing the Palestinians. Until they do, it's very hard to get worked up about this.

+1

The Jew-hating Arabs were offered a two-state solution when Israel was formed in 1948, but they refused. They weren't interested in "sharing" because they did not - and still do not! - recognize Israel's right to exist. They have said repeatedly that they want every Jew wiped out of Israel. Israel needs land to protect itself from people sworn to its destruction.

You have to admit that the deck was loaded in favor of Israel in 1948. The western world's guilt -- particularly Britian and the US -- about what they had allowed to happen to the Jews of Europe was politically overwhelming. The British were still in full colonail power mode and described the Palestinians as powerless date and olive growers, i.e., ignorant farmers and the type of people England found easy to colonize for centuries. The Palestinians did not have a chance against Old Blighty.

Now with the on going support of the US, Israel has crushed and oppressed Israel and continues to take Palestinian land at will.

You, PP, saw a ittle narrow minded not to understand the hatred of the Palestinians for Israel. Think of how the Jews felt when Hitler nationalized all of their property.

there is essentially no difference between being anti-Israel and antisemitic.

“A Zionist? What does that mean? Want to define what the word is? Do I think Israel has the right to exist? Yeah, I do. Do I believe that the United States should be playing an even-handed role in terms of its dealings with the Palestinian community in Israel? Absolutely I do.

“Again, I think that you have volatile regions in the world, the Middle East is one of them, and the United States has got to work with other countries around the world to fight for Israel's security and existence at the same time as we fight for a Palestinian state where the people in that country can enjoy a decent standard of living, which is certainly not the case right now. My long-term hope is that instead of pouring so much military aid into Israel, into Egypt, we can provide more economic aid to help improve the standard of living of the people in that area.”

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Anonymous wrote:It might be ridiculous but then again, what do you know about being a country that was under Israeli siege for decades.

Um, this is the Olympics where you leave politics at home. If you can't deal, go home.

In history, Lebanese are not the only ones that have been occupied. There are many others at the Olympics. But thank goodness that they don't act this way. Childish.

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Anonymous wrote:It might be ridiculous but then again, what do you know about being a country that was under Israeli siege for decades.

Um, this is the Olympics where you leave politics at home. If you can't deal, go home.

In history, Lebanese are not the only ones that have been occupied. There are many others at the Olympics. But thank goodness that they don't act this way. Childish.

Thank you. I've been disgusted by how quickly the liberals on this board have turned some nasty behavior by the Lebanese into an indictment against Israel.

The verb you're looking for is 'spew'. Doesn't matter the context - any situation is a pretext to spew.

Yes....I've used "spew" before. Great word - and on target.

And for the liberals who think there is no correlation between being anti-Israel and the rise in antisemtisim (and who are willing to take a look at themselves), the following article, "The New Antisemitism," by Natan Sharansky might be of interest. (And to tie this in with another thread running concurrently, it is not PC to criticize Jews but it is PC to criticize Israel. It's a handy outlet for antisemites to spew their bigotry.)

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-sharansky-f04.htm

Sharansky is a proponent of settlements in the West Bank. As a government minister, he led settlement expansion and the seizure of property from Palestinians. Clearly, someone with such view will not welcome criticism of Israeli.

I'm sorry, I will criticize the construction of Israeli settlements in the occupied territories of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. If you consider that to be anti-Semitic, then I am sorry that you have reduced the term to meaninglessness. But, your labels will not stop my criticism.

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Anonymous wrote:If the Israelis are so keen to share buses with others, perhaps they could also share land and natural resources as well and stop repressing the Palestinians. Until they do, it's very hard to get worked up about this.

+1

The Jew-hating Arabs were offered a two-state solution when Israel was formed in 1948, but they refused. They weren't interested in "sharing" because they did not - and still do not! - recognize Israel's right to exist. They have said repeatedly that they want every Jew wiped out of Israel. Israel needs land to protect itself from people sworn to its destruction.

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like some kind of misunderstanding about the bus assignments got blown way out of proportion.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there is essentially no difference between being anti-Israel and antisemitic.

Wow. I guess someone has realized that it is impossible to defend Israel's actions so it is simply better to declare criticism of Israel to be out of bounds. Are you one of those people who complains about liberals being PC? Do you hate "safe places" on college campuses?

Would you say that criticism of Iran or Saudi Arabia is anti-Islamic?

Coming from someone who defends all Muslims at every turn...

Yay!! Thank you. I brought that uo earlier, too. A real case of the pot calling the kettle black.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It might be ridiculous but then again, what do you know about being a country that was under Israeli siege for decades.

Um, this is the Olympics where you leave politics at home. If you can't deal, go home.

In history, Lebanese are not the only ones that have been occupied. There are many others at the Olympics. But thank goodness that they don't act this way. Childish.

Thank you. I've been disgusted by how quickly the liberals on this board have turned some nasty behavior by the Lebanese into an indictment against Israel.

The verb you're looking for is 'spew'. Doesn't matter the context - any situation is a pretext to spew.

Yes....I've used "spew" before. Great word - and on target.

And for the liberals who think there is no correlation between being anti-Israel and the rise in antisemtisim (and who are willing to take a look at themselves), the following article, "The New Antisemitism," by Natan Sharansky might be of interest. (And to tie this in with another thread running concurrently, it is not PC to criticize Jews but it is PC to criticize Israel. It's a handy outlet for antisemites to spew their bigotry.)

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-sharansky-f04.htm

Sharansky is a proponent of settlements in the West Bank. As a government minister, he led settlement expansion and the seizure of property from Palestinians. Clearly, someone with such view will not welcome criticism of Israeli.

I'm sorry, I will criticize the construction of Israeli settlements in the occupied territories of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. If you consider that to be anti-Semitic, then I am sorry that you have reduced the term to meaninglessness. But, your labels will not stop my criticism.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there is essentially no difference between being anti-Israel and antisemitic.

Wow. I guess someone has realized that it is impossible to defend Israel's actions so it is simply better to declare criticism of Israel to be out of bounds. Are you one of those people who complains about liberals being PC? Do you hate "safe places" on college campuses?

Would you say that criticism of Iran or Saudi Arabia is anti-Islamic?

Coming from someone who defends all Muslims at every turn...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It might be ridiculous but then again, what do you know about being a country that was under Israeli siege for decades.

Um, this is the Olympics where you leave politics at home. If you can't deal, go home.

In history, Lebanese are not the only ones that have been occupied. There are many others at the Olympics. But thank goodness that they don't act this way. Childish.

Thank you. I've been disgusted by how quickly the liberals on this board have turned some nasty behavior by the Lebanese into an indictment against Israel.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there is essentially no difference between being anti-Israel and antisemitic.

Wow. I guess someone has realized that it is impossible to defend Israel's actions so it is simply better to declare criticism of Israel to be out of bounds. Are you one of those people who complains about liberals being PC? Do you hate "safe places" on college campuses?

Would you say that criticism of Iran or Saudi Arabia is anti-Islamic?

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there is essentially no difference between being anti-Israel and antisemitic.

Wow. I guess someone has realized that it is impossible to defend Israel's actions so it is simply better to declare criticism of Israel to be out of bounds. Are you one of those people who complains about liberals being PC? Do you hate "safe places" on college campuses?

Would you say that criticism of Iran or Saudi Arabia is anti-Islamic?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It might be ridiculous but then again, what do you know about being a country that was under Israeli siege for decades.

Um, this is the Olympics where you leave politics at home. If you can't deal, go home.

In history, Lebanese are not the only ones that have been occupied. There are many others at the Olympics. But thank goodness that they don't act this way. Childish.

Thank you. I've been disgusted by how quickly the liberals on this board have turned some nasty behavior by the Lebanese into an indictment against Israel.

The verb you're looking for is 'spew'. Doesn't matter the context - any situation is a pretext to spew.

Yes....I've used "spew" before. Great word - and on target.

And for the liberals who think there is no correlation between being anti-Israel and the rise in antisemtisim (and who are willing to take a look at themselves), the following article, "The New Antisemitism," by Natan Sharansky might be of interest. (And to tie this in with another thread running concurrently, it is not PC to criticize Jews but it is PC to criticize Israel. It's a handy outlet for antisemites to spew their bigotry.)

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-sharansky-f04.htm

There is a rise of anti-Israel views. This is normal given Israel's actions. Let's face it, Israel refuses to let the U.S. use its airbases and encourages ISIS as a counter to Hamas. It is very interesting that Israel is left out of the discussion of countries that should deal with ISIS yet they are right next store. It's time for Israel to gets off its ass and earn its handouts form the U.S.