Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cops aren't at my episcopal church on Palm Sunday when we process from one location to another, crossing a busy street without a traffic light. They aren't at the Catholic church in my neighborhood on Easter. They aren't at the Mormon church in Alexandria on their holy days.
Not saying it's because of radicalization, but it's certainly not just to escort people across a street that has a streetlight to stop traffic.

Cops are always at the big DC synagogues for big events.

In VA also.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cops aren't at my episcopal church on Palm Sunday when we process from one location to another, crossing a busy street without a traffic light. They aren't at the Catholic church in my neighborhood on Easter. They aren't at the Mormon church in Alexandria on their holy days.
Not saying it's because of radicalization, but it's certainly not just to escort people across a street that has a streetlight to stop traffic.

Cops are always at the big DC synagogues for big events.

Anonymous wrote:Cops aren't at my episcopal church on Palm Sunday when we process from one location to another, crossing a busy street without a traffic light. They aren't at the Catholic church in my neighborhood on Easter. They aren't at the Mormon church in Alexandria on their holy days.
Not saying it's because of radicalization, but it's certainly not just to escort people across a street that has a streetlight to stop traffic.

Anonymous wrote:Cops aren't at my episcopal church on Palm Sunday when we process from one location to another, crossing a busy street without a traffic light. They aren't at the Catholic church in my neighborhood on Easter. They aren't at the Mormon church in Alexandria on their holy days.
Not saying it's because of radicalization, but it's certainly not just to escort people across a street that has a streetlight to stop traffic.

Anonymous wrote:Cops aren't at my episcopal church on Palm Sunday when we process from one location to another, crossing a busy street without a traffic light. They aren't at the Catholic church in my neighborhood on Easter. They aren't at the Mormon church in Alexandria on their holy days.
Not saying it's because of radicalization, but it's certainly not just to escort people across a street that has a streetlight to stop traffic.

Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but this area scares me because of its history and because of everything going on in the world. I don't support a "muslim" test (Newt's idea) any more than I support a "fat old white man" test, but current events are making it harder to ignore homegrown radicalization and an interest in terrorist acts.
I actually blame Bush and Cheney for destabilizing Iraq and making the world hate us. I blame McCain for the Trump situation by introducing the Palin effect.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have NEVER gone to my local Catholic church in DC and heard messages from the old Testament about killing gays from the priest. Never. Usually, what is cited is the gospel of John AKA the Gospel of love. Many Xstian denominations embrance gays, The Pope has made so many move towards embracing. Totally the opposite of pushing off a cliff.
Where are Xtsians killing 50+ people a week? Disembowling? Putting out eyes?

Again, you don't get it. The vast majority of Muslims -- especially in America -- also never hear message about killing gays when they go to the Mosque. Most of those 50 you keep bringing up are other Muslims. Trying to blame their own religions for their deaths doesn't make a lot of sense. Why is it that you can distinguish between different groups of Christians, but can't do the same with Muslims?

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have NEVER gone to my local Catholic church in DC and heard messages from the old Testament about killing gays from the priest. Never. Usually, what is cited is the gospel of John AKA the Gospel of love. Many Xstian denominations embrance gays, The Pope has made so many move towards embracing. Totally the opposite of pushing off a cliff.
Where are Xtsians killing 50+ people a week? Disembowling? Putting out eyes?

Again, you don't get it. The vast majority of Muslims -- especially in America -- also never hear message about killing gays when they go to the Mosque. Most of those 50 you keep bringing up are other Muslims. Trying to blame their own religions for their deaths doesn't make a lot of sense. Why is it that you can distinguish between different groups of Christians, but can't do the same with Muslims?

Anonymous wrote:I have NEVER gone to my local Catholic church in DC and heard messages from the old Testament about killing gays from the priest. Never. Usually, what is cited is the gospel of John AKA the Gospel of love. Many Xstian denominations embrance gays, The Pope has made so many move towards embracing. Totally the opposite of pushing off a cliff.
Where are Xtsians killing 50+ people a week? Disembowling? Putting out eyes?

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:8:51, I believe the Bible is full of horrible statements, too.

PP have YOU read the entire Bible and the entire Koran? How could you make any comparison otherwise? The old testament is chock full of crazy stuff (see my favorite 2 Kings 2:23), but people IGNORE it. That is the fundamental difference.

I feel like we have had this argument 100 times, but you are simply wrong. Christians who believe that homosexuality is wrong justify their belief on Old Testament verses. Clearly, not everyone ignores the Old Testament. The Quran is interpreted in various ways. Understanding how it is understood in daily life requires more than just reading it, just as is true with the Bible.

Yes but Jeff, let's get serious here.

Christians who are against homosexuality follow two basic groups: the "pray the gay out of them" who are compassionate towards them but generally worry that if they stay gay tjey will miss out on God's salvation and heaven and the fire and brimstone anti gays, who are very angry as they are about all of everyone else's sins, but they are all words and little action except in how they vote and who theh associate with. And even at their angriest and most extreme they do not go around throwing gays off tall buildings.

And yet many muslims in the middle east including many clerics are A Okay with torturing gays and executing them for sport in dreadful ways because "Allah says so"

Comparing the most radical evangelical southern Baptist minister's views and more importantly actions on gays to any number of muslim clerics is not even possible.

The actions towards gays by many of the islamic faith in that part of the world makes anti gay Christian pastors seem like thaley are wrapped in a rainbow cloak.

There is zero comparison of the two and you know it.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:8:51, I believe the Bible is full of horrible statements, too.

PP have YOU read the entire Bible and the entire Koran? How could you make any comparison otherwise? The old testament is chock full of crazy stuff (see my favorite 2 Kings 2:23), but people IGNORE it. That is the fundamental difference.

I feel like we have had this argument 100 times, but you are simply wrong. Christians who believe that homosexuality is wrong justify their belief on Old Testament verses. Clearly, not everyone ignores the Old Testament. The Quran is interpreted in various ways. Understanding how it is understood in daily life requires more than just reading it, just as is true with the Bible.

Yes but Jeff, let's get serious here.

Christians who are against homosexuality follow two basic groups: the "pray the gay out of them" who are compassionate towards them but generally worry that if they stay gay tjey will miss out on God's salvation and heaven and the fire and brimstone anti gays, who are very angry as they are about all of everyone else's sins, but they are all words and little action except in how they vote and who theh associate with. And even at their angriest and most extreme they do not go around throwing gays off tall buildings.

And yet many muslims in the middle east including many clerics are A Okay with torturing gays and executing them for sport in dreadful ways because "Allah says so"

Comparing the most radical evangelical southern Baptist minister's views and more importantly actions on gays to any number of muslim clerics is not even possible.

The actions towards gays by many of the islamic faith in that part of the world makes anti gay Christian pastors seem like thaley are wrapped in a rainbow cloak.

There is zero comparison of the two and you know it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In that neighborhood, the mosque isn't the scary part, it's the surrounding neighborhood of Culmore.

Sorry, I would rather have a Hispanic construction worker whistle at me at the 7-11 than have a crazed terrorist drive a bomb laden car into my path.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:8:51, I believe the Bible is full of horrible statements, too.

PP have YOU read the entire Bible and the entire Koran? How could you make any comparison otherwise? The old testament is chock full of crazy stuff (see my favorite 2 Kings 2:23), but people IGNORE it. That is the fundamental difference.

I feel like we have had this argument 100 times, but you are simply wrong. Christians who believe that homosexuality is wrong justify their belief on Old Testament verses. Clearly, not everyone ignores the Old Testament. The Quran is interpreted in various ways. Understanding how it is understood in daily life requires more than just reading it, just as is true with the Bible.