Anonymous
Post 07/08/2016 16:53     Subject: Re:FCPS FEEDS Program
Actually, as bad as it sounds, letting the kids suffer is the only thing that might get these "parents" to step up. Enabling bad behavior like this has failed to work for how long now?


Exactly, hunger is a motivator.


What, a 10 year old kid is going to be motivated to do what? Be a lookout for a drug dealer on the street? I don't think they let 10 year olds work at McDonald's.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2016 16:06     Subject: Re:FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Actually, as bad as it sounds, letting the kids suffer is the only thing that might get these "parents" to step up. Enabling bad behavior like this has failed to work for how long now?


As bad as it sounds....punishing the kids for the income limitations of the parents. Do you not get that not everyone has a privileged background. If you earn minimum wage, you can not dig out of it. You can not afford the education to earth the money to support your kids properly.

God I hate people like you. You assume people choose to be poor. Donald did not choose to be rich; he was born into wealth. Today, to make it, you almost certainly need an education, which costs money. If you do not have the money, your kids go hungry, and will be required to borrow out the wazoo for education. Now, if because of your poverty, your credit is not good, well f*** the kids.


+1 I had one student who was an only child. Only a mother who worked day and night to just keep a place rented. Do you think it's really healthy for that kid to be alone with no food hour upon hour in a rundown apartment somewhere? I can tell you the outcome of that. A very angry teenager. He loves his mother, but often asked me (his teacher) if I made lunch for my own son every day. He wanted to know what life at my house was like. Yeah, let's punish the kids so the parents will "step up". His mom was doing the best she could IMO. I don't know who some people are that they judge. I wonder if they have ever been hungry or lonely. Seriously.


Not pp here.
See, these are the kids that I believe these programs are targeted at. And, I have no issue with that. Give the family a “hand up” so that they don’t need to fret about everything in their lives.
But, that is not what is happening. Instead, it is free food for all..... presumably so we don’t “stigmatize” kids who have real need.
There has to be a better way and a more efficient way to use the funding.


Do you really believe that the children of 1 percenters will leave their fancy lacrosse and sailing camps, and trudge across the county to get a free hamburger? No. They'll take Mummy's AMEX to Five Guys. Or they'll just stay at the club, and have Victor bring them a sandwich and an Arnold Palmer.


Of course not. But, there will be plenty of kids who do not need the assistance that will take advantage of the program.
As a side note - as a young teacher, my husband and I struggled to make ends meet in the DC area. We pinched pennies, worked hard, I took on summer jobs - it was tough. I had students who were getting free lunch who had nicer clothes, very expensive shoes (brand name tennis shoes - think Michael Jordan), the newest electronic games, etc. These were items that their parents bought them (the kids were proud of the fact that their parents got them pretty much everything they wanted).
It was experiences like this that made me start to question our nation’s effort to assist those who are in need.


That's ridiculous. Kids aren't going to go out of their way to get a free and probably subpar lunch when they aren't at least somewhat food insecure in most cases. If there's good food at home, they'll eat that.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2016 09:24     Subject: FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP posted this knowing it would cause this firestorm. Good job of trolling OP (how many people on DCUM would really need this information?)


I am a FFX Cty taxpayer who is thankful to OP for letting me know this program exists. We support a disproportionate amount of illegals in this county and I'm sick of the ever-rising taxes as a result.


1) Move.

2) Try to be smarter and learn about your county from sources other than DCUM.


1) Plan to. Husband's a liberal and complains about the taxes, but of course has no intellectual understanding of WHY his taxes are so high...

2) I know my county supports illegals on my dime BECAUSE of other sources, NOT because of DCUM.


Now there's something you don't read/hear everyday.

Interesting opinion on taxes, because I feel my taxes here (compared to where I've lived in PA and Ohio) are relatively low.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2016 09:07     Subject: FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This isn't anything new. The USDA offers summer meals to kids all over Fairfax County. The sites are usually concentrated in high FARMS areas but anyone can go eat there.

I'm pretty disgusted by people railing against this. You can think their parents should pull themselves up by their bootstraps all you want and you may be right, but it doesn't deny that there are hungry kids out there and they shouldn't have to suffer the consequences.


Actually, as bad as it sounds, letting the kids suffer is the only thing that might get these "parents" to step up. Enabling bad behavior like this has failed to work for how long now?


Exactly, hunger is a motivator.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2016 09:06     Subject: FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP posted this knowing it would cause this firestorm. Good job of trolling OP (how many people on DCUM would really need this information?)


I am a FFX Cty taxpayer who is thankful to OP for letting me know this program exists. We support a disproportionate amount of illegals in this county and I'm sick of the ever-rising taxes as a result.


1) Move.

2) Try to be smarter and learn about your county from sources other than DCUM.


Not the PP, but how would moving help? The program is paid for by the USDA. Does the USDA get its money from federal taxes?



SHHHHH, no logic allowed...
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2016 09:05     Subject: FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP posted this knowing it would cause this firestorm. Good job of trolling OP (how many people on DCUM would really need this information?)


I am a FFX Cty taxpayer who is thankful to OP for letting me know this program exists. We support a disproportionate amount of illegals in this county and I'm sick of the ever-rising taxes as a result.


1) Move.

2) Try to be smarter and learn about your county from sources other than DCUM.


1) Plan to. Husband's a liberal and complains about the taxes, but of course has no intellectual understanding of WHY his taxes are so high...

2) I know my county supports illegals on my dime BECAUSE of other sources, NOT because of DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2016 08:11     Subject: FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP posted this knowing it would cause this firestorm. Good job of trolling OP (how many people on DCUM would really need this information?)


I am a FFX Cty taxpayer who is thankful to OP for letting me know this program exists. We support a disproportionate amount of illegals in this county and I'm sick of the ever-rising taxes as a result.


1) Move.

2) Try to be smarter and learn about your county from sources other than DCUM.


Not the PP, but how would moving help? The program is paid for by the USDA. Does the USDA get its money from federal taxes?
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2016 07:50     Subject: FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP posted this knowing it would cause this firestorm. Good job of trolling OP (how many people on DCUM would really need this information?)


I am a FFX Cty taxpayer who is thankful to OP for letting me know this program exists. We support a disproportionate amount of illegals in this county and I'm sick of the ever-rising taxes as a result.


1) Move.

2) Try to be smarter and learn about your county from sources other than DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2016 07:50     Subject: Re:FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:[quoteAs a side note - as a young teacher, my husband and I struggled to make ends meet in the DC area. We pinched pennies, worked hard, I took on summer jobs - it was tough. I had students who were getting free lunch who had nicer clothes, very expensive shoes (brand name tennis shoes - think Michael Jordan), the newest electronic games, etc. These were items that their parents bought them (the kids were proud of the fact that their parents got them pretty much everything they wanted).


Veteran teacher here. Sometimes the kids are not getting the things they need. Sometimes a few expensive items are bought to try to make up for what they don't have (which is often an absent parent or not spending time with the child). Children, unfortunately, might have these material wants taken care of, but their physical and emotional needs are not taken care of. Parents, unfortunately, do not exercise good judgement . . . they don't know how to parent. This is the true poverty. This is not the fault of the child.

Also, you and your husband were on a ladder up. You should be grateful.





Last poster, yu obviously have little experience in what you are talking about.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2016 07:45     Subject: FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:OP posted this knowing it would cause this firestorm. Good job of trolling OP (how many people on DCUM would really need this information?)


I am a FFX Cty taxpayer who is thankful to OP for letting me know this program exists. We support a disproportionate amount of illegals in this county and I'm sick of the ever-rising taxes as a result.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2016 21:55     Subject: Re:FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:[quoteAs a side note - as a young teacher, my husband and I struggled to make ends meet in the DC area. We pinched pennies, worked hard, I took on summer jobs - it was tough. I had students who were getting free lunch who had nicer clothes, very expensive shoes (brand name tennis shoes - think Michael Jordan), the newest electronic games, etc. These were items that their parents bought them (the kids were proud of the fact that their parents got them pretty much everything they wanted).


Veteran teacher here. Sometimes the kids are not getting the things they need. Sometimes a few expensive items are bought to try to make up for what they don't have (which is often an absent parent or not spending time with the child). Children, unfortunately, might have these material wants taken care of, but their physical and emotional needs are not taken care of. Parents, unfortunately, do not exercise good judgement . . . they don't know how to parent. This is the true poverty. This is not the fault of the child.

Also, you and your husband were on a ladder up. You should be grateful.


+1 Amen.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2016 11:35     Subject: Re:FCPS FEEDS Program
[quoteAs a side note - as a young teacher, my husband and I struggled to make ends meet in the DC area. We pinched pennies, worked hard, I took on summer jobs - it was tough. I had students who were getting free lunch who had nicer clothes, very expensive shoes (brand name tennis shoes - think Michael Jordan), the newest electronic games, etc. These were items that their parents bought them (the kids were proud of the fact that their parents got them pretty much everything they wanted).


Veteran teacher here. Sometimes the kids are not getting the things they need. Sometimes a few expensive items are bought to try to make up for what they don't have (which is often an absent parent or not spending time with the child). Children, unfortunately, might have these material wants taken care of, but their physical and emotional needs are not taken care of. Parents, unfortunately, do not exercise good judgement . . . they don't know how to parent. This is the true poverty. This is not the fault of the child.

Also, you and your husband were on a ladder up. You should be grateful.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2016 11:02     Subject: Re:FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Actually, as bad as it sounds, letting the kids suffer is the only thing that might get these "parents" to step up. Enabling bad behavior like this has failed to work for how long now?


As bad as it sounds....punishing the kids for the income limitations of the parents. Do you not get that not everyone has a privileged background. If you earn minimum wage, you can not dig out of it. You can not afford the education to earth the money to support your kids properly.

God I hate people like you. You assume people choose to be poor. Donald did not choose to be rich; he was born into wealth. Today, to make it, you almost certainly need an education, which costs money. If you do not have the money, your kids go hungry, and will be required to borrow out the wazoo for education. Now, if because of your poverty, your credit is not good, well f*** the kids.


+1 I had one student who was an only child. Only a mother who worked day and night to just keep a place rented. Do you think it's really healthy for that kid to be alone with no food hour upon hour in a rundown apartment somewhere? I can tell you the outcome of that. A very angry teenager. He loves his mother, but often asked me (his teacher) if I made lunch for my own son every day. He wanted to know what life at my house was like. Yeah, let's punish the kids so the parents will "step up". His mom was doing the best she could IMO. I don't know who some people are that they judge. I wonder if they have ever been hungry or lonely. Seriously.


Not pp here.
See, these are the kids that I believe these programs are targeted at. And, I have no issue with that. Give the family a “hand up” so that they don’t need to fret about everything in their lives.
But, that is not what is happening. Instead, it is free food for all..... presumably so we don’t “stigmatize” kids who have real need.
There has to be a better way and a more efficient way to use the funding.


Do you really believe that the children of 1 percenters will leave their fancy lacrosse and sailing camps, and trudge across the county to get a free hamburger? No. They'll take Mummy's AMEX to Five Guys. Or they'll just stay at the club, and have Victor bring them a sandwich and an Arnold Palmer.


Of course not. But, there will be plenty of kids who do not need the assistance that will take advantage of the program.
As a side note - as a young teacher, my husband and I struggled to make ends meet in the DC area. We pinched pennies, worked hard, I took on summer jobs - it was tough. I had students who were getting free lunch who had nicer clothes, very expensive shoes (brand name tennis shoes - think Michael Jordan), the newest electronic games, etc. These were items that their parents bought them (the kids were proud of the fact that their parents got them pretty much everything they wanted).
It was experiences like this that made me start to question our nation’s effort to assist those who are in need.


You sound very bitter.

Also, it isn't taking advantage if it is FOR EVERYONE
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2016 10:50     Subject: Re:FCPS FEEDS Program
Of course not. But, there will be plenty of kids who do not need the assistance that will take advantage of the program.
As a side note - as a young teacher, my husband and I struggled to make ends meet in the DC area. We pinched pennies, worked hard, I took on summer jobs - it was tough. I had students who were getting free lunch who had nicer clothes, very expensive shoes (brand name tennis shoes - think Michael Jordan), the newest electronic games, etc. These were items that their parents bought them (the kids were proud of the fact that their parents got them pretty much everything they wanted).
It was experiences like this that made me start to question our nation’s effort to assist those who are in need.



I understand. You need to come and see the suburban and rural poor (immigrant poor do not wear expensive clothing). The programs are not perfect, but they help lots of kids who need help.

Anonymous
Post 07/05/2016 10:35     Subject: Re:FCPS FEEDS Program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Actually, as bad as it sounds, letting the kids suffer is the only thing that might get these "parents" to step up. Enabling bad behavior like this has failed to work for how long now?


As bad as it sounds....punishing the kids for the income limitations of the parents. Do you not get that not everyone has a privileged background. If you earn minimum wage, you can not dig out of it. You can not afford the education to earth the money to support your kids properly.

God I hate people like you. You assume people choose to be poor. Donald did not choose to be rich; he was born into wealth. Today, to make it, you almost certainly need an education, which costs money. If you do not have the money, your kids go hungry, and will be required to borrow out the wazoo for education. Now, if because of your poverty, your credit is not good, well f*** the kids.


+1 I had one student who was an only child. Only a mother who worked day and night to just keep a place rented. Do you think it's really healthy for that kid to be alone with no food hour upon hour in a rundown apartment somewhere? I can tell you the outcome of that. A very angry teenager. He loves his mother, but often asked me (his teacher) if I made lunch for my own son every day. He wanted to know what life at my house was like. Yeah, let's punish the kids so the parents will "step up". His mom was doing the best she could IMO. I don't know who some people are that they judge. I wonder if they have ever been hungry or lonely. Seriously.


Not pp here.
See, these are the kids that I believe these programs are targeted at. And, I have no issue with that. Give the family a “hand up” so that they don’t need to fret about everything in their lives.
But, that is not what is happening. Instead, it is free food for all..... presumably so we don’t “stigmatize” kids who have real need.
There has to be a better way and a more efficient way to use the funding.


Do you really believe that the children of 1 percenters will leave their fancy lacrosse and sailing camps, and trudge across the county to get a free hamburger? No. They'll take Mummy's AMEX to Five Guys. Or they'll just stay at the club, and have Victor bring them a sandwich and an Arnold Palmer.


Of course not. But, there will be plenty of kids who do not need the assistance that will take advantage of the program.
As a side note - as a young teacher, my husband and I struggled to make ends meet in the DC area. We pinched pennies, worked hard, I took on summer jobs - it was tough. I had students who were getting free lunch who had nicer clothes, very expensive shoes (brand name tennis shoes - think Michael Jordan), the newest electronic games, etc. These were items that their parents bought them (the kids were proud of the fact that their parents got them pretty much everything they wanted).
It was experiences like this that made me start to question our nation’s effort to assist those who are in need.