Anonymous
06/24/2016 10:21
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Drumpf - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Drumpf will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Drumpf.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Drumpf supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
I agree to an extent, although I'm not sure it's "most" Americans. A very vocal, passionate segment of the population, definitely.
I think the Brexit vote shows the people you're describing may be more numerous and influential than was believed by the pundits.
The polls were right, were they not? David Cameron is an idiot for ever calling for this referendum.
Supporters of Leave predominantly old, rural and undereducated. Supporters of remain young educated and urban. Once again the young are paying for the bad judgment of the baby boomer generation.
+1 million. This will go down in political history as one of the greatest blunders ever. Governing by referendum is bad. (See: California)
IMO, if you're going to have a referendum on something this big, a larger majority of the vote (e.g. 60%) should be required rather than a simple majority. The results demonstrate that the country was pretty divided.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 10:09
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Trump supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
I agree to an extent, although I'm not sure it's "most" Americans. A very vocal, passionate segment of the population, definitely.
I think the Brexit vote shows the people you're describing may be more numerous and influential than was believed by the pundits.
The polls were right, were they not? David Cameron is an idiot for ever calling for this referendum.
Supporters of Leave predominantly old, rural and undereducated. Supporters of remain young educated and urban. Once again the young are paying for the bad judgment of the baby boomer generation.
So, in other words, you think that pain inflicted on some parts of the populace should mean more than pain inflicted on others?
If EU was good for Brits, why would they want to leave?
You're on the right track. The Young, urban and/or elite simply refuse to grasp that these economic agreements (whether in the form of the EU or NAFTA or liberal immigration policies) are generally bad for the lower and working classes of wealthier countries while good for the young, urban and elite. Is it really any shock that any class of people reject what turns out to be a bad deal for them? Ascribing this to ignorance or lack of education on the part of leave voters is just elitism.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 10:09
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Trump supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
I agree to an extent, although I'm not sure it's "most" Americans. A very vocal, passionate segment of the population, definitely.
I think the Brexit vote shows the people you're describing may be more numerous and influential than was believed by the pundits.
The polls were right, were they not? David Cameron is an idiot for ever calling for this referendum.
Supporters of Leave predominantly old, rural and undereducated. Supporters of remain young educated and urban. Once again the young are paying for the bad judgment of the baby boomer generation.
So, in other words, you think that pain inflicted on some parts of the populace should mean more than pain inflicted on others?
If EU was good for Brits, why would they want to leave?
I suspect a lot of them didn't understand what they were voting for. Ignorance is a powerful thing.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 10:06
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Trump supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
+1. we should not forget that Cameron organized the referendum. the vote is a tragedy for the UK and likely the people who voted for it, working class from rural UK, are going to pay a hefty price for it. the ignorance of some people is astonishing, and "some" in the US is a lot of people. with all his atrocious talks, total lack of experience, narrow focus, total lack of understanding of major international issues, he won the nomination for the GOP and in the polls is doing almost as good as Hillary. the fact that Hillary is not leading him by 30 points is super duper scary. look at the stunned faces of London City workers, they probably never thought this day would come for them. let's not end up in the same situation
+1000. I am definitely scared.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:59
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Trump supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
I agree to an extent, although I'm not sure it's "most" Americans. A very vocal, passionate segment of the population, definitely.
I think the Brexit vote shows the people you're describing may be more numerous and influential than was believed by the pundits.
The polls were right, were they not? David Cameron is an idiot for ever calling for this referendum.
Supporters of Leave predominantly old, rural and undereducated. Supporters of remain young educated and urban. Once again the young are paying for the bad judgment of the baby boomer generation.
So, in other words, you think that pain inflicted on some parts of the populace should mean more than pain inflicted on others?
If EU was good for Brits, why would they want to leave?
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:58
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Drumpf - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Drumpf will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Drumpf.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Drumpf supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
I agree to an extent, although I'm not sure it's "most" Americans. A very vocal, passionate segment of the population, definitely.
I think the Brexit vote shows the people you're describing may be more numerous and influential than was believed by the pundits.
The polls were right, were they not? David Cameron is an idiot for ever calling for this referendum.
Supporters of Leave predominantly old, rural and undereducated. Supporters of remain young educated and urban. Once again the young are paying for the bad judgment of the baby boomer generation.
+1 million. This will go down in political history as one of the greatest blunders ever. Governing by referendum is bad. (See: California)
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:56
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Trump supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
I agree to an extent, although I'm not sure it's "most" Americans. A very vocal, passionate segment of the population, definitely.
I think the Brexit vote shows the people you're describing may be more numerous and influential than was believed by the pundits.
The polls were right, were they not? David Cameron is an idiot for ever calling for this referendum.
Supporters of Leave predominantly old, rural and undereducated. Supporters of remain young educated and urban. Once again the young are paying for the bad judgment of the baby boomer generation.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:55
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Trump supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
+1. we should not forget that Cameron organized the referendum. the vote is a tragedy for the UK and likely the people who voted for it, working class from rural UK, are going to pay a hefty price for it. the ignorance of some people is astonishing, and "some" in the US is a lot of people. with all his atrocious talks, total lack of experience, narrow focus, total lack of understanding of major international issues, he won the nomination for the GOP and in the polls is doing almost as good as Hillary. the fact that Hillary is not leading him by 30 points is super duper scary. look at the stunned faces of London City workers, they probably never thought this day would come for them. let's not end up in the same situation
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:54
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:The only two major politicians to support Brexit outside of the U.K. were Trump (once it was explained to him) and Putin. Putin's reasons were obvious - he wants to weaken the European Union.
Putin was actually critical of Brexit. Don't make things up.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:54
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
Just as you have since he announced his candidacy for president?
The democrats have just begun to fight -- blame his own party for where he has gotten so far.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:53
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Trump supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
I agree to an extent, although I'm not sure it's "most" Americans. A very vocal, passionate segment of the population, definitely.
I think the Brexit vote shows the people you're describing may be more numerous and influential than was believed by the pundits.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:47
Subject: Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Just to give you another perspective, my friend who lives in Britain is delighted with her cheap live-in Latvian housekeeper. She's much less delighted, however, with the daughters of said housekeeper who are 19 and 21 respectively, have both given birth a few months ago, and immediately were given council housing and welfare payments despite not contributing to the economy in any meaningful sense.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:44
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Trump supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
I agree to an extent, although I'm not sure it's "most" Americans. A very vocal, passionate segment of the population, definitely.
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:42
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
Just as you have since he announced his candidacy for president?
Anonymous
06/24/2016 09:39
Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?
Well, with Cameron's resignation, Boris Johnson is highly likely to be at a G8 summit. And if the populist movement that got Great Britain out of the EU and "shocked" the nation's intelligentsia carries into the US in November, Donald Trump will likely be there as well. The high school class presidents may no longer control the world.
Fortunately, we can still stop Trump.
I'm pretty certain he will lose in a landslide.
Not a Trump supporter, but IMHO anyone who says this is completely out of touch with America outside the Beltway (and the other big cities).
You have no idea how popular he is and how much his message resonates with most Americans.
+1. And those Americans also don't see how Brexit affects them nor do they know anything about it.