Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From the same German study:
Even more shocking is that one third of all those polled thought that “Muslims should strive to a societal order like that in the time of Mohammed,” meaning a return to 7th century sharia law which the Islamic State claims to follow to the letter. First generation migrants agreed with the sentiment at 36 per cent, and there was only a small drop to 27 per cent for second and third generation Turks.
While only seven per cent of the Turks surveyed believed that violence was justified in spreading Islam, one in five said that the threat from the Western world to Islam justified violent action by believers. The report noted that of the Turks polled “quite a few of them hold onto religious positions which don’t do much to counter the magnitude of suspicions and mistrust.”
Then what is Germany doing if this study is true? Are they trying to orchestrate their country's own demise? I don't get it. All of the current terrorists are young and a clear pattern shows it is the children of the immigrants. Why would Europe or the US take this chance? Do we want to become like Israel where there are bombings daily? In this current climate it can really happen here snd then it will be too late. Even Muslim friends say they have concerns. They left these countries 35 years ago to escape people like this and we are now bringing them here. If they are scarred and willing to express it, why can't others?
Anonymous wrote:From the same German study:
Even more shocking is that one third of all those polled thought that “Muslims should strive to a societal order like that in the time of Mohammed,” meaning a return to 7th century sharia law which the Islamic State claims to follow to the letter. First generation migrants agreed with the sentiment at 36 per cent, and there was only a small drop to 27 per cent for second and third generation Turks.
While only seven per cent of the Turks surveyed believed that violence was justified in spreading Islam, one in five said that the threat from the Western world to Islam justified violent action by believers. The report noted that of the Turks polled “quite a few of them hold onto religious positions which don’t do much to counter the magnitude of suspicions and mistrust.”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since we are discussing Trump's plan to ban "immigration from areas of the world when there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies" I went looking what the data looks like.
http://www.heritage.org/multimedia/infographic/2013/07/terror-plots-against-the-us-by-country-of-origin
If this chart is correct, we are going ban citizens of UK to enter US for the time being...
What are we going to do about American citizens which tops the chart?
The FBI and other agencies are struggling as it is to monitor terrorists who are citizens of our country.
Shall we make their job even more challenging by bringing in immigrants, whom we know little about, to add to their list?
MOST of the terrorists in France, Brussels, Orlando, LA, and Boston were second generation terrorists which means even if their parents were vetted as being okay- their children who are second generation ate becoming radicalized and terrorists. It is a trend and studies and polls show that the second generation Muslims in Europe support Isis and sharia law in very high percentages. This is scary. Why would we want to take a chance of having this trend happen here?
Which recent terrorists parents were branded as being okay?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, let's look at the U.S. "home grown" terrorists. I would like to see further breakdown of those reported under the US. Do they have dual citizenship with another country? What is their education level? What is their commonality in terms of religion?
Then looking at the smaller countries, there is a surprising number of those from Muslim countries. It aggregates to about 25%. That is startling statistic when compared to those that did not make the 1%, like China and Latin American countries. These very populist countries are under represented. That speaks volumes about who the terrorists are here.