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Anonymous wrote:It's legal for same-sex to marry, so of course it is going to come up at school. How odd to think otherwise.

Agree. You want to be against it? Go to Catholic school. Where they say to love thy neighbor, unless they are gay.

As a Catholic, I am offended by this gross mischaracterization. Glad it's okay to "bash" some groups but not others. Hope it makes you feel better to insult my Catholic children who go to Catholic school, but I don't see how that helps at all.

Agree. I have no moral objection to same sex marriage I just hate that some liberals cannot accept that others have different views. It's so hypocritical.

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Anonymous wrote:It's legal for same-sex to marry, so of course it is going to come up at school. How odd to think otherwise.

Agree. You want to be against it? Go to Catholic school. Where they say to love thy neighbor, unless they are gay.

As a Catholic, I am offended by this gross mischaracterization. Glad it's okay to "bash" some groups but not others. Hope it makes you feel better to insult my Catholic children who go to Catholic school, but I don't see how that helps at all.

Agree. I have no moral objection to same sex marriage I just hate that some liberals cannot accept that others have different views. It's so hypocritical.

Anonymous wrote:Why is this a surprise? Once gay marriage became legal it was only a matter of time before it became common place and for young children to be introduced to it. They are taught that men marry women so why not learn of any other form of marriage? I personally don't agree with gay marriage but think it's strange people are surprised that children are learning about it. More and more people will begin to identify as gay or of another seX. Very few people were transgender 25 years ago and now we have a national crisis about where transgender people go to the bathroom. Next your daughter will learn that boys can use her restroom if they think they are a girl!

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Anonymous wrote:It's legal for same-sex to marry, so of course it is going to come up at school. How odd to think otherwise.

Agree. You want to be against it? Go to Catholic school. Where they say to love thy neighbor, unless they are gay.

As a Catholic, I am offended by this gross mischaracterization. Glad it's okay to "bash" some groups but not others. Hope it makes you feel better to insult my Catholic children who go to Catholic school, but I don't see how that helps at all.

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Anonymous wrote:It's legal for same-sex to marry, so of course it is going to come up at school. How odd to think otherwise.

Agree. You want to be against it? Go to Catholic school. Where they say to love thy neighbor, unless they are gay.

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Anonymous wrote:It's legal for same-sex to marry, so of course it is going to come up at school. How odd to think otherwise.

Agree. You want to be against it? Go to Catholic school. Where they say to love thy neighbor, unless they are gay.

As a Catholic, I am offended by this gross mischaracterization. Glad it's okay to "bash" some groups but not others. Hope it makes you feel better to insult my Catholic children who go to Catholic school, but I don't see how that helps at all.

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Anonymous wrote:It's legal for same-sex to marry, so of course it is going to come up at school. How odd to think otherwise.

Agree. You want to be against it? Go to Catholic school. Where they say to love thy neighbor, unless they are gay.

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Anonymous wrote:You should have known that going in at GDS. You'd probably be more comfortable at one of the several other privates that teacher love and compassion for everyone without explicitly addressing issues like same sex marriage in PK/K. I voted for same sex marriage in MD when it was on the ballot, but I'm not sure this is an issue I want my school to address to specifically cover with my 5 y/o. I've pointed out that some kids have two mommies or two daddies, but prefer that that type of discussion is between our family, not the school.

First, OP hasn't said if the school addressed it or it came from the kid in the class with two dads (though it seems like the latter). And second, even if a school addresses it, there's almost no chance it would go further in the PK class than what you've just described: some kids have two moms or two dads. End of story.

The school talked very formerly about different families. I support same sex marriage, but I am not sure I would like my 6 years old in a school which emphasize this in the curriculum.

06:32 back with another perspective. Our kids’ school recently talked about family structures as well, including theirs, with their two moms. That was pretty much the extent of it. It may surprise you to learn that that’s as far as I want them to go in school right now as well. It goes without saying that any explicit discussion is inappropriate, and I don’t even want their school to discuss the history or gay rights or the battle for marriage equality or bathroom laws or whatever, certainly not in Pre-K.

Our kids know that most boys marry girls and that most girls marry boys (as evidenced by the mostly heterosexual couples in the world, our neighbors, their grandparents, aunts and uncles, etc); still, they know that sometimes, a boy marries a boy or a girl marries a girl.

Our kids do NOT know that that woman who was at my mom’s funeral recently was my sister, their aunt, with whom I haven’t spoken in more than 16 years because she thinks Jesus hates gay people.

My kids don’t know those young adults there were the nephews I used to adore and babysit and take to Chuck E Cheese before my sister decided I wasn’t allowed to see them anymore – and those boys are their cousins. They don't know that my voice used to catch in my throat when I told friends how much I missed my nephews, but that all these years later, they're strangers to me now, so I just wish them the best from afar. They don’t know the younger girl is also their cousin, but I’d never even seen or met her before my mom got terminally ill.

They don’t know they have another grandmother – my partner’s mom who is their biological grandmother – who doesn’t give a shit about them because, nearly 20 years after we got together, she still isn’t over it. Or that when we go to the city where she lives semi-regularly, my partner calls to see if we can stop by, and the answer is always no.

They don’t know that their moms have been together for nearly 20 years (since college) but only married a couple of years ago because it was not legal before.

They have no idea there are entire organizations that exist with the sole purpose of stopping us from getting married (now, apparently, just bitching about the fact that we are).

They will learn these things in due time, but they’re happy and healthy and thriving, and I see no reason to burden them with these facts now.
So let me assure you that I have more at stake about this sort of information than you do. And right now, talking about different family structures is entirely appropriate. After all, the kids see us at school functions, birthday parties, etc already. We simply can’t – and won’t – pretend like we don’t exist.

PP thank you for sharing this story. I agree with the others; it is so sad that so much pain has come from your sister and in-laws in your life. While I am a Christian and disagree with gay marriage, I would never in a million years think or say that "Jesus hates gay people." On the contrary, I believe that Jesus loves us -- all of us -- far more than we can ever understand. At the same time, He did say "go and sin no more," which is why I, personally, believe that speaking out again gay marriage is acceptable. (I also believe that marriage itself is an institution created and ordained by God and is, by definition, one man and one woman. So the whole concept of something else being "marriage" is by definition incorrect.) HOWEVER I also happen to know what a sinner I am and that I am only forgiven through His grace. Homosexuality may not be my personal struggle, temptation or weakness, but I have many others, believe me, so who am I to cast stones at what another person is confronted with.

Anonymous wrote:So I love how the one mom here tells her child "we don't believe in that but treat them nice -they are lovely people."

How f'ing confusing is that to a child? How about you let your own child form their beliefs instead of pushing yours onto them. And if you don't believe in it, why be nice? Your non-belief won't make your child not be gay in the future? If they are, you basically told them you don't believe in their feelings. Just crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember my grandmother not "approving" of the interracial couple that moved in down our street. She was polite to their faces, and immediately after leaving would say, "It's just not right."

I'd never actually experienced prejudice, and at 6 years old I truly didn't understand why she had a problem with them. She had to explain it to me.

In other words, she had to teach her prejudice to a child. Good thing I was a slow learner.

Exactly

Prejudice is taught. Young kids are kind, friendly, and inclusive to anyone that wants to smile and play with them. They learn to be assholes from their role models, whoever they are. Parents, musicians, athletes, pastors, grandparents, peers, etc...

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Anonymous wrote:You should have known that going in at GDS. You'd probably be more comfortable at one of the several other privates that teacher love and compassion for everyone without explicitly addressing issues like same sex marriage in PK/K. I voted for same sex marriage in MD when it was on the ballot, but I'm not sure this is an issue I want my school to address to specifically cover with my 5 y/o. I've pointed out that some kids have two mommies or two daddies, but prefer that that type of discussion is between our family, not the school.

First, OP hasn't said if the school addressed it or it came from the kid in the class with two dads (though it seems like the latter). And second, even if a school addresses it, there's almost no chance it would go further in the PK class than what you've just described: some kids have two moms or two dads. End of story.

The school talked very formerly about different families. I support same sex marriage, but I am not sure I would like my 6 years old in a school which emphasize this in the curriculum.

06:32 back with another perspective. Our kids’ school recently talked about family structures as well, including theirs, with their two moms. That was pretty much the extent of it. It may surprise you to learn that that’s as far as I want them to go in school right now as well. It goes without saying that any explicit discussion is inappropriate, and I don’t even want their school to discuss the history or gay rights or the battle for marriage equality or bathroom laws or whatever, certainly not in Pre-K.

Our kids know that most boys marry girls and that most girls marry boys (as evidenced by the mostly heterosexual couples in the world, our neighbors, their grandparents, aunts and uncles, etc); still, they know that sometimes, a boy marries a boy or a girl marries a girl.

Our kids do NOT know that that woman who was at my mom’s funeral recently was my sister, their aunt, with whom I haven’t spoken in more than 16 years because she thinks Jesus hates gay people.

My kids don’t know those young adults there were the nephews I used to adore and babysit and take to Chuck E Cheese before my sister decided I wasn’t allowed to see them anymore – and those boys are their cousins. They don't know that my voice used to catch in my throat when I told friends how much I missed my nephews, but that all these years later, they're strangers to me now, so I just wish them the best from afar. They don’t know the younger girl is also their cousin, but I’d never even seen or met her before my mom got terminally ill.

They don’t know they have another grandmother – my partner’s mom who is their biological grandmother – who doesn’t give a shit about them because, nearly 20 years after we got together, she still isn’t over it. Or that when we go to the city where she lives semi-regularly, my partner calls to see if we can stop by, and the answer is always no.

They don’t know that their moms have been together for nearly 20 years (since college) but only married a couple of years ago because it was not legal before.

They have no idea there are entire organizations that exist with the sole purpose of stopping us from getting married (now, apparently, just bitching about the fact that we are).

They will learn these things in due time, but they’re happy and healthy and thriving, and I see no reason to burden them with these facts now.
So let me assure you that I have more at stake about this sort of information than you do. And right now, talking about different family structures is entirely appropriate. After all, the kids see us at school functions, birthday parties, etc already. We simply can’t – and won’t – pretend like we don’t exist.