Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Highly likely the left turn was being made properly, anticipating normal speed of oncoming traffic. One driver going 70+ completely blows those calculations. I hope a camera somewhere caught the oncoming driver's speed somewhere along the road.

+1 Given his history of dangerous driving, this possibility should be considered.

2016 Volt makes me wonder if (i) the driver knew how to handle an electric vehicle, or (ii) there was an issue with the car. It's not like GM is known for its quality control. I don't doubt the BMW driver was speeding - but the speed limit there is 50 right? So 60 or 70 even isn't unusual. Until the investigation is complete there isn't anything anyone should assume other than tragic accident.

I am not being flippant, but in Maryland will he get lucky like Ethan Couch? Obviously, at this time we don't know if there was alcohol or who will be determined to be at fault, but is the "affluenza" defense available in MoCo?

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Anonymous wrote:If you search the name of the driver who hit the car carrying 4 passengers he comes up with a Facebook group for a Potomac area car club and their Facebook page is all about meeting to "race" down area roads--with jokes about riding at top speeds and evading police.

So who knows what happened. Sounds like the one car made an error and the other car was owned by a member of a group of people who hold speeding events on public roads.

Looks like that driver also has quite a record with reckless driving according to his court records.

Yes, not sure why posts referring to the other driver, Ogulkan Atakoglu, have been taken down from this thread. He posts on instagram all the time about drag racing cars. These are pix from his account:

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xta1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/11258330_111401499222982_1536262681_n.jpg
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xta1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/11258330_111401499222982_1536262681_n.jpg

Because in this accident he is a victim of a driver pulling in front of him, not the other way around.

He's not a victim if he was driving faster then the speed limit (45 mph), which is highly likely.

It's so Bethesda to want to blame others and not take responsibility. The dad pulled in front of a car. It is a tragic mistake.

How about you hunt real criminals in Bethesda... Another parent sponsored drinking party last night would be a good start.

How dare you say this? You are assigning blame to someone and you have no idea what happened. None of us do yet. This portion of the Bethesda community is trying to come to grips with this today. As far as anyone knows, drinking had nothing to do with it. Three people are dead. Blaming "Bethesda" just shows how petty you are.

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Anonymous wrote:You can search his name here if you want to see all the past traffic incidents.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/

How on earth was his license not suspended?!?!

For 1 speeding ticket 3 years ago?

And the reckless disregard?
RECKLESS DRIVING VEHICLE IN WANTON AND WILLFUL DISREGARD FOR SAFETY OF PERSONS AND PROPERTY
Plea: GUILTY
Disposition: GUILTY
Disposition Date: 10/11/2013

And the 57 in a 40 in Arlington, along with the marijauna possession and alcohol charge.

04/24/13 EXCEEDING MAXIMUM SPEED: 85 MPH IN A POSTED 55 MPH ZONE
04/24/13 DRIVER CHANGING LANES WHEN UNSAFE
04/24/13 RECKLESS DRIVING VEHICLE IN WANTON AND WILLFUL DISREGARD FOR SAFETY OF PERSONS AND PROPERTY
08/28/13 NEGLIGENT DRIVING
08/28/13 DRIVING VEH. ON HWY. AT SPEED EXCEEDING LIMIT
08/28/13 UNSAFE LANE CHANGING
10/28/13 DRIVER SPINNING WHEELS
06/27/14 CDS: POSS MARIJUANA L/T 10 G
09/23/15 NEGLIGENT DRIVING VEHICLE IN CARELESS AND IMPRUDENT MANNER ENDANGERING PROPERTY, LIFE AND PERSON
09/23/15 FAILURE TO DRIVE VEHICLE ON RIGHT HALF OF ROADWAY WHEN REQUIRED
09/23/15 DRIVER FAILURE TO OBEY PROPERLY PLACED TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE INSTRUCTIONS
09/23/15 DRIVER OF MOTOR VEHICLE FOLLOWING VEHICLE CLOSER THAN REASONABLE AND PRUDENT

Total Fines over $2,200 not to mention all the legal bills since he needed an attorney for a few of them.

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Anonymous wrote:You can search his name here if you want to see all the past traffic incidents.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/

How on earth was his license not suspended?!?!

For 1 speeding ticket 3 years ago?

I don't think you know how to search correctly. This kid had violation after violation after violation after... you get the point.

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Anonymous wrote:You can search his name here if you want to see all the past traffic incidents.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/

How on earth was his license not suspended?!?!

For 1 speeding ticket 3 years ago?

And the reckless disregard?
RECKLESS DRIVING VEHICLE IN WANTON AND WILLFUL DISREGARD FOR SAFETY OF PERSONS AND PROPERTY
Plea: GUILTY
Disposition: GUILTY
Disposition Date: 10/11/2013

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Anonymous wrote:You can search his name here if you want to see all the past traffic incidents.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/

How on earth was his license not suspended?!?!

For 1 speeding ticket 3 years ago?

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Anonymous wrote:If you search the name of the driver who hit the car carrying 4 passengers he comes up with a Facebook group for a Potomac area car club and their Facebook page is all about meeting to "race" down area roads--with jokes about riding at top speeds and evading police.

So who knows what happened. Sounds like the one car made an error and the other car was owned by a member of a group of people who hold speeding events on public roads.

Looks like that driver also has quite a record with reckless driving according to his court records.

Yes, not sure why posts referring to the other driver, Ogulkan Atakoglu, have been taken down from this thread. He posts on instagram all the time about drag racing cars. These are pix from his account:

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xta1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/11258330_111401499222982_1536262681_n.jpg
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xta1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/11258330_111401499222982_1536262681_n.jpg

Because in this accident he is a victim of a driver pulling in front of him, not the other way around.

He's not a victim if he was driving faster then the speed limit (45 mph), which is highly likely.

It's so Bethesda to want to blame others and not take responsibility. The dad pulled in front of a car. It is a tragic mistake.

How about you hunt real criminals in Bethesda... Another parent sponsored drinking party last night would be a good start.

Anonymous wrote:You can search his name here if you want to see all the past traffic incidents.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/

How on earth was his license not suspended?!?!

Anonymous wrote:You can search his name here if you want to see all the past traffic incidents.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/

One incident for speeding on 495 and one incident that was dismissed... Really that is it... Sorry but he was the victim.

Exactly. Highly likely the left turn was being made properly, anticipating normal speed of oncoming traffic. One driver going 70+ completely blows those calculations. I hope a camera somewhere caught the oncoming driver's speed somewhere along the road.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you search the name of the driver who hit the car carrying 4 passengers he comes up with a Facebook group for a Potomac area car club and their Facebook page is all about meeting to "race" down area roads--with jokes about riding at top speeds and evading police.

So who knows what happened. Sounds like the one car made an error and the other car was owned by a member of a group of people who hold speeding events on public roads.

Looks like that driver also has quite a record with reckless driving according to his court records.

Yes, not sure why posts referring to the other driver, Ogulkan Atakoglu, have been taken down from this thread. He posts on instagram all the time about drag racing cars. These are pix from his account:

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xta1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/11258330_111401499222982_1536262681_n.jpg
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xta1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/11258330_111401499222982_1536262681_n.jpg

Because in this accident he is a victim of a driver pulling in front of him, not the other way around.

He's not a victim if he was driving faster then the speed limit (45 mph), which is highly likely.

You can search his name here if you want to see all the past traffic incidents.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/