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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what kind of sheltered lives some of you have lived. From my high school experience, I can see some a-hole guy saying "I feel like a girl today" and bursting into the girl's restroom. What's to stop him, he's "confused"?This thing is not as simple as it may seem to the naive.

And then said a-hole guy gets suspended for s couple of weeks because he's not transgendered. No need for pearl clutching. It seems joever thst most jurisdictions don't have laws criminalizing entering a bathroom or lockerroom designated for the opposite sex. In fact, it's white common for female sports reporters and trainers or other medical staff to be present in the lockerroom. Conservatives once again have found a solution in search of a problem. It's a non-issue.

You really are unbelievably naiive.

Do you think that there's some test for being transgender? You just have to say "I identify as a woman, I always have" and BOOM! You're in.

+1000

But what about me, the poster from a few pages back. I identify as a duck so you must recognize me as a duck. I want to poop outside! In your front yard!!! Quack. Now what are you going to do?

Pooping in my yard isn't legal, even if you identify as a duck. (Just as assault is illegal in a bathroom whether you identify as a man or a woman.)

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what kind of sheltered lives some of you have lived. From my high school experience, I can see some a-hole guy saying "I feel like a girl today" and bursting into the girl's restroom. What's to stop him, he's "confused"?This thing is not as simple as it may seem to the naive.

And then said a-hole guy gets suspended for s couple of weeks because he's not transgendered. No need for pearl clutching. It seems joever thst most jurisdictions don't have laws criminalizing entering a bathroom or lockerroom designated for the opposite sex. In fact, it's white common for female sports reporters and trainers or other medical staff to be present in the lockerroom. Conservatives once again have found a solution in search of a problem. It's a non-issue.

You really are unbelievably naiive.

Do you think that there's some test for being transgender? You just have to say "I identify as a woman, I always have" and BOOM! You're in.

+1000

But what about me, the poster from a few pages back. I identify as a duck so you must recognize me as a duck. I want to poop outside! In your front yard!!! Quack. Now what are you going to do?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, to women walk around in the bathroom naked? I assume their only undressing inside a stall. Wouldn't it be safer to just have unisex bathrooms with only stalls, no urinals, where there is still privacy but more foot traffic?

It's not just about toilet stalls.

What's it about then?

It's about predators and misogynists invading you/your child's locker rooms in high school and at your gym.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, to women walk around in the bathroom naked? I assume their only undressing inside a stall. Wouldn't it be safer to just have unisex bathrooms with only stalls, no urinals, where there is still privacy but more foot traffic?

It's not just about toilet stalls.

What's it about then?

See above. You really cannot be this obtuse and dense...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, to women walk around in the bathroom naked? I assume their only undressing inside a stall. Wouldn't it be safer to just have unisex bathrooms with only stalls, no urinals, where there is still privacy but more foot traffic?

It's not just about toilet stalls.

What's it about then?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what kind of sheltered lives some of you have lived. From my high school experience, I can see some a-hole guy saying "I feel like a girl today" and bursting into the girl's restroom. What's to stop him, he's "confused"?This thing is not as simple as it may seem to the naive.

And then said a-hole guy gets suspended for s couple of weeks because he's not transgendered. No need for pearl clutching. It seems joever thst most jurisdictions don't have laws criminalizing entering a bathroom or lockerroom designated for the opposite sex. In fact, it's white common for female sports reporters and trainers or other medical staff to be present in the lockerroom. Conservatives once again have found a solution in search of a problem. It's a non-issue.

You really are unbelievably naiive.

Do you think that there's some test for being transgender? You just have to say "I identify as a woman, I always have" and BOOM! You're in.

+1000

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing. If someone assaults or harasses someone else in the bathroom, it doesn't matter what gender the assaulter is. If they are cis* or trans*, they would still have assaulted someone. So, no, a man dressed as a woman would not be able to get away with an assault by claiming he's trans*.

Trans* individuals would not "display their genitalia" if they're using a bathroom stall, just like cis* folks. They would go into a stall, do what they need to do, come out, wash their hands, and leave. Just like you and me. If there are genitalia hanging out in a purposeful way, security should be called, whether that person is trans* or cis*.

These laws make it far easier for perverts, voyeurs and predators to get access to female bathrooms and locker rooms, and far more difficult for businesses, schools and offices to remove them and protect women and girls.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what kind of sheltered lives some of you have lived. From my high school experience, I can see some a-hole guy saying "I feel like a girl today" and bursting into the girl's restroom. What's to stop him, he's "confused"?This thing is not as simple as it may seem to the naive.

And then said a-hole guy gets suspended for s couple of weeks because he's not transgendered. No need for pearl clutching. It seems joever thst most jurisdictions don't have laws criminalizing entering a bathroom or lockerroom designated for the opposite sex. In fact, it's white common for female sports reporters and trainers or other medical staff to be present in the lockerroom. Conservatives once again have found a solution in search of a problem. It's a non-issue.

Check back with me when male reporters are allowed in female locker rooms when the ladies are changing (the guys just don't give a shit about woman seeing them naked).

Here's the thing. If someone assaults or harasses someone else in the bathroom, it doesn't matter what gender the assaulter is. If they are cis* or trans*, they would still have assaulted someone. So, no, a man dressed as a woman would not be able to get away with an assault by claiming he's trans*.

Trans* individuals would not "display their genitalia" if they're using a bathroom stall, just like cis* folks. They would go into a stall, do what they need to do, come out, wash their hands, and leave. Just like you and me. If there are genitalia hanging out in a purposeful way, security should be called, whether that person is trans* or cis*.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what kind of sheltered lives some of you have lived. From my high school experience, I can see some a-hole guy saying "I feel like a girl today" and bursting into the girl's restroom. What's to stop him, he's "confused"?This thing is not as simple as it may seem to the naive.

And then said a-hole guy gets suspended for s couple of weeks because he's not transgendered. No need for pearl clutching. It seems joever thst most jurisdictions don't have laws criminalizing entering a bathroom or lockerroom designated for the opposite sex. In fact, it's white common for female sports reporters and trainers or other medical staff to be present in the lockerroom. Conservatives once again have found a solution in search of a problem. It's a non-issue.

You really are unbelievably naiive.

Do you think that there's some test for being transgender? You just have to say "I identify as a woman, I always have" and BOOM! You're in.

I'm a pretty open minded guy here. If any woman thinks this is a good idea, you are crazy. Misogynists will use this to torment you to no end. Sorry to the transgendered, but there are too many wierdos out there.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know what kind of sheltered lives some of you have lived. From my high school experience, I can see some a-hole guy saying "I feel like a girl today" and bursting into the girl's restroom. What's to stop him, he's "confused"?This thing is not as simple as it may seem to the naive.

And then said a-hole guy gets suspended for s couple of weeks because he's not transgendered. No need for pearl clutching. It seems joever thst most jurisdictions don't have laws criminalizing entering a bathroom or lockerroom designated for the opposite sex. In fact, it's white common for female sports reporters and trainers or other medical staff to be present in the lockerroom. Conservatives once again have found a solution in search of a problem. It's a non-issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is being naive? Sexual predators are not going to be deterred by any bathroom laws either way. I don't assume that my children are safe from creeps just because there are rules. Little boys and girls have been assaulted in bathrooms and locker rooms for as long as there have been bathrooms and locker rooms.

this is not all about just predators. There are perverted voyeurs that know how to stay just from crossing the line. We are not talking about rapists here, merely perverts.

Fine, then start lobbying for single stall restrooms everywhere. Problem solved. Of course you have to make sure that some perverted landlord or restaurant owner hasn't installed cameras in the bathrooms, which happens a lot. Perverts are always somewhere.

Why dont you come up with a solution that protects the rights and safety of all bathrooms goers, men, women, transgender men and women, children, handicapped, parents with opposite sex children, babies who need changing tables, etc etc. Offer some solutions, please.

Sure. Separate bathrooms for those who gender identity issues. Otherwise, men and women separate. Simple.

What about gay men and lesbians? Genitalia based?

Of course.

Are you implying gay men are not men? Women are not lesbians?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is being naive? Sexual predators are not going to be deterred by any bathroom laws either way. I don't assume that my children are safe from creeps just because there are rules. Little boys and girls have been assaulted in bathrooms and locker rooms for as long as there have been bathrooms and locker rooms.

this is not all about just predators. There are perverted voyeurs that know how to stay just from crossing the line. We are not talking about rapists here, merely perverts.

Fine, then start lobbying for single stall restrooms everywhere. Problem solved. Of course you have to make sure that some perverted landlord or restaurant owner hasn't installed cameras in the bathrooms, which happens a lot. Perverts are always somewhere.

Why dont you come up with a solution that protects the rights and safety of all bathrooms goers, men, women, transgender men and women, children, handicapped, parents with opposite sex children, babies who need changing tables, etc etc. Offer some solutions, please.

Sure. Separate bathrooms for those who gender identity issues. Otherwise, men and women separate. Simple.

What about gay men and lesbians? Genitalia based?

"90 percent of these diverse patients had at least one other significant form of psychopathology” reported Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, Department of Psychiatry in a 2009 study of transgender outcomes at their clinic. In other words, 90 percent of the patients were suffering from a mental illness that gender surgery did not alleviate.

61 percent of the patients treated for cross-gender identification (359 people) had other psychiatric disorders and illnesses, notably personality, mood, dissociative, and psychotic disorders according to a 2003 Dutch survey of board-certified Dutch psychiatrists.

A 2013 University of Louisville, KY study of 351 transgender individuals found that the rates of depression and anxiety symptoms within the study “far surpass the rates of those for the general population.” About half had depressive symptoms and more than 40 percent had symptoms of anxiety."