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Anonymous wrote:^ I've caused some of the confusion here: carrier was going to move 1,400 jobs to Mexico. They have announced that 1,000 jobs will remain in the US. No word on if the other 400 will be moved or simply reduced through layoffs or otherwise. Either way, 1,000 blue collar Americans will get to keep their jobs for the foreseeable future and I'm not sure why so many people on here can't acknowledge that's a good thing.

It is a good thing, but what about the other manufacturing jobs being moved overseas every day? Are we going to give massive tax breaks to every company that threatens to move? It sets a bad precedent, like negotiating with terrorists.

Don't even bother, they can't or won't understand that this is simply a publicity stunt.

Anonymous wrote:^ I've caused some of the confusion here: carrier was going to move 1,400 jobs to Mexico. They have announced that 1,000 jobs will remain in the US. No word on if the other 400 will be moved or simply reduced through layoffs or otherwise. Either way, 1,000 blue collar Americans will get to keep their jobs for the foreseeable future and I'm not sure why so many people on here can't acknowledge that's a good thing.

It is a good thing, but what about the other manufacturing jobs being moved overseas every day? Are we going to give massive tax breaks to every company that threatens to move? It sets a bad precedent, like negotiating with terrorists.

Anonymous wrote:^ I've caused some of the confusion here: carrier was going to move 1,400 jobs to Mexico. They have announced that 1,000 jobs will remain in the US. No word on if the other 400 will be moved or simply reduced through layoffs or otherwise. Either way, 1,000 blue collar Americans will get to keep their jobs for the foreseeable future and I'm not sure why so many people on here can't acknowledge that's a good thing.

+1 sadly, ideology took all their reason.

^ I've caused some of the confusion here: carrier was going to move 1,400 jobs to Mexico. They have announced that 1,000 jobs will remain in the US. No word on if the other 400 will be moved or simply reduced through layoffs or otherwise. Either way, 1,000 blue collar Americans will get to keep their jobs for the foreseeable future and I'm not sure why so many people on here can't acknowledge that's a good thing.

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Anonymous wrote:They were supposed to send 2,000 jobs to Mexico.

Now they're sending 1,000? Why couldn't Trump save all 2,000?

It was 1,400, not 2,000. And I don't know why he couldn't save all 2,000. But I do know that that people around here were positive that Trump could do nothing to bring manufacturing jobs back. Thus far,-before even being sworn in!!!--he's gotten Ford to reconsider (and stop) moving certain jobs to Mexico, gotten Carrier to keep 1,000 jobs from going to Mexico, gotten Canada and Mexico to publicly state a willingness to renegotiate NAFTA, and Kia is already talking about moving jobs from Korea to its US plants in response to Trump's election.

Due, we said he can't bring the manufacturing sector back,and he can't. Half those jobs are still going to Mexico,and the rest will provide going in another year or two,when the press has moved on.

2/7 is not 1/2. Try to be honest. Maybe he can't bring the manufacturing sector back, but he's trying and he's moving it in the right direction. What's amazing is that you (like Obama) can't even concede it's possible despite the fact that he's already influencing decisions in his desired direction. Maybe he can't bring the whole thing back, but since when is it a bad thing that a president elect actually tries to do something about this issue and gets modest results?

It is also worth noting that the same people who claimed he would never get the GOP nomination and then said he would never win the election are now claiming he can't bring back manufacturing jobs. Perhaps you guys don't have the world quite as figured out as you seem to think you do? At the very least be humbled by your mistakes and wait and see if he can pull it off.

Anonymous wrote:The Ford thing was an outright lie

http://www.snopes.com/ford-from-mexico-to-ohio/

No, it wasn't. Stop reading fake news.

From WaPo:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/18/the-real-story-behind-that-exaggerated-tweet-from-donald-trump-about-ford/?client=safari

"Privately on Friday, Ford officials suggested that their decision to keep Lincoln production in Louisville was influenced in part by the likelihood that Trump will sign a large cut in corporate income tax rates and move to scale back fuel-economy standards issued under President Obama, which automakers have called onerous. Those policies would affect the financial calculus the company uses when deciding which cars to produce and where to produce them."

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Anonymous wrote:They were supposed to send 2,000 jobs to Mexico.

Now they're sending 1,000? Why couldn't Trump save all 2,000?

It was 1,400, not 2,000. And I don't know why he couldn't save all 2,000. But I do know that that people around here were positive that Trump could do nothing to bring manufacturing jobs back. Thus far,-before even being sworn in!!!--he's gotten Ford to reconsider (and stop) moving certain jobs to Mexico, gotten Carrier to keep 1,000 jobs from going to Mexico, gotten Canada and Mexico to publicly state a willingness to renegotiate NAFTA, and Kia is already talking about moving jobs from Korea to its US plants in response to Trump's election.

The jobs are still going despite whatever he promised. Ford jobs we're never going to begin with. It's just Trumps way of marketing. All lies and if you expose them as lies he will move on to another lie. It's a never ending chase of lies. Kia already has a plant in GA. Auto manufacturers always assemble their cars locally because it costs so much to transport a car half way across the world.

So they're still shipping approx. 1000 jobs to Mexico? Don't pat yourself on the back too hard now.

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Anonymous wrote:They were supposed to send 2,000 jobs to Mexico.

Now they're sending 1,000? Why couldn't Trump save all 2,000?

It was 1,400, not 2,000. And I don't know why he couldn't save all 2,000. But I do know that that people around here were positive that Trump could do nothing to bring manufacturing jobs back. Thus far,-before even being sworn in!!!--he's gotten Ford to reconsider (and stop) moving certain jobs to Mexico, gotten Carrier to keep 1,000 jobs from going to Mexico, gotten Canada and Mexico to publicly state a willingness to renegotiate NAFTA, and Kia is already talking about moving jobs from Korea to its US plants in response to Trump's election.

Due, we said he can't bring the manufacturing sector back,and he can't. Half those jobs are still going to Mexico,and the rest will provide going in another year or two,when the press has moved on.

The Ford thing was an outright lie

http://www.snopes.com/ford-from-mexico-to-ohio/

Anonymous wrote:They were supposed to send 2,000 jobs to Mexico.

Now they're sending 1,000? Why couldn't Trump save all 2,000?

It was 1,400, not 2,000. And I don't know why he couldn't save all 2,000. But I do know that that people around here were positive that Trump could do nothing to bring manufacturing jobs back. Thus far,-before even being sworn in!!!--he's gotten Ford to reconsider (and stop) moving certain jobs to Mexico, gotten Carrier to keep 1,000 jobs from going to Mexico, gotten Canada and Mexico to publicly state a willingness to renegotiate NAFTA, and Kia is already talking about moving jobs from Korea to its US plants in response to Trump's election.

Carrier is getting a massive tax break while still sending nearly half their Indiana jobs to Mexico. Unreal.

This is why Trump is out of his league.

Anonymous wrote:They were supposed to send 2,000 jobs to Mexico.

Now they're sending 1,000? Why couldn't Trump save all 2,000?

These are all just marketing ploy. That's what Trunp is good at. Who is going to remember this in 4 years and check what actually happened? Whatever UTC does Trump is gonna claim he saved 1000 jobs from this point onwards. We truly live in Post-truth world. His voters don't care about truth.

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't every CEO in America now call the president-elect and say 'we're considering a move to Mexico unless...well...make me an offer'

yes, they should all play that game.

oh, and love the part where he's backtracking yet again, this time on levying tariffs for goods manufactured overseas by American companies. Another promise broken.

Not backtracking, he's toning down the rhetoric.

Second, as Trump has plainly stated, many of his positions are meant to establish negotiating posture. He can and will compromise where desirable to meet his goals. This is how business gets done. Maybe it's just 1000 jobs, but when was the last time any president lifted a finger like this to help Americans? Usually it is an impersonal attempt to accomplish things through policy. This guy actually got involved. To paraphrase the current First Lady, first time I've been proud of a president since Bush was at ground zero.

And it is wholly inappropriate for a POTUS or PETOUS to be picking winners and losers in corporate america.

If--as implied by the NYT--he promised no special favors or treatment, exactly how did he pick a winner or loser?

They were supposed to send 2,000 jobs to Mexico.

Now they're sending 1,000? Why couldn't Trump save all 2,000?