Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The sad part to me is that ONLY black entertainers/actors seem to be piping up about the issue. Thereby making it a 'black issue', which will be summarily dismissed. Jada Pinkett Smith should take a step back and let some other hues voice their concerns. Plenty of Asian and Latino actors and directors are major contributors. Same issue every time there's a panel on affirmative action. Black people march out front and it becomes all out black vs. white. It will never resonate that way.
Blacks are the most established and organized minority in the country, and many whites want to support them given the history of slavery and civil rights, so it's easier for them to be vocal about stuff.
The sad part to me is that blacks primarily seem to care about blacks, instead of including and inspiring all minorities. That dilutes the potential power of the growing number of non-whites.
Jada's message has been very black-focused, but I thought Spike Lee's message was inclusive of all minorities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have had some heavily black ones in the past. If you look at in relation to the demographics of the entire Nation...there was one year when almost every one of the 4 major categories were won by AA.
http://www.uticapubliclibrary.org/resources/literature-and-film-guides/african-american-oscar-winners-and-nominees-acting/
The African American Actors who have won Academy Awards (Oscars)
1939 Hattie McDaniel for Gone With the Wind
Best Supporting Actress
1963 Sidney Poitier for Lilies of the Field
Best Actor
1982 Louis Gossett, Jr. for An Officer and a Gentlemen
Best Supporting Actor
1989 Denzel Washington for Glory
Best Supporting Actor
1990 Whoopi Goldberg for Ghost
Best Supporting Actress
1996 Cuba Gooding, Jr. for Jerry Maguire
Best Supporting Actor
2001 Denzel Washington for Training Day
Best Actor
2001 Halle Berry for Monster's Ball
Best Actress
2004 Jamie Foxx for Ray
Best Actor
2004 Morgan Freeman for Million Dollar Baby
Best Supporting Actor
2006 Forest Whitaker for The Last King of Scotland
Best Actor
2006 Jennifer Hudson for Dreamgirls
Best Supporting Actress
2009 Mo'Nique for Precious
Best Supporting Actress
Halle Berry had no business winning that year. There was nothing impressive about her performance at all. And, I can't believe Jamie Foxx in "Ray" won over Russell Crowe in "A Beautiful Mind." It seems that a little preferential treatment was given in these instances, maybe others.
Halle Berry I'll give you, but Jamie Foxx was phenomenal in Ray.
Maybe, but Russell Crowe's role was a lot more challenging. Halle Berry, though, most overrated performance ever. As I recall, she didn't even speak that much in that movie.
Oops, wrong year, I meant that Russell Crowe in a "Beautiful Mind" should have won over Denzel Washington in "Training Day." Love Denzel, but come on. I was actually in Hollywood around the time of the Oscars in 2001, and there were billboards everywhere trying to guilt the voters into voting for the black actors and actresses. And, lo and behold, Denzel and Halle both won that year. The Halle one was particularly undeserved. And Denzel was great, but his role was no where near as challenging or as well-executed as Russell Crowe's. It just seemed as though politics were at play.
I am glad you got your year right, but I understand, all Black men look alike. Anyway, there was controversy surrounding the character that Russell Crowe portrayed in "A Beautiful Mind", and the Oscars backed away. Also, Denzel was awarded the Oscar for "Training Days" for his accumulative work, just like Leonardo will receive the Oscar for his cumulative work this year. Denzel had been snubbed so many times for better acting roles than TD and the Oscars were running from ABM controversy. Coincidentally, LC has also been snubbed for better performances than Revenant. FWIW, I was not happy with Denzel's win and thought he should have one for Malcom X, Pelican Brief, and Hurricane.
Yeah, I think I know the difference between Denzel and Jamie Foxx, it was an honest mistake, so you can stop playing the race card. These two don't "look alike" anyway. Denzel is hot and Jamie Foxx is not.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have had some heavily black ones in the past. If you look at in relation to the demographics of the entire Nation...there was one year when almost every one of the 4 major categories were won by AA.
http://www.uticapubliclibrary.org/resources/literature-and-film-guides/african-american-oscar-winners-and-nominees-acting/
The African American Actors who have won Academy Awards (Oscars)
1939 Hattie McDaniel for Gone With the Wind
Best Supporting Actress
1963 Sidney Poitier for Lilies of the Field
Best Actor
1982 Louis Gossett, Jr. for An Officer and a Gentlemen
Best Supporting Actor
1989 Denzel Washington for Glory
Best Supporting Actor
1990 Whoopi Goldberg for Ghost
Best Supporting Actress
1996 Cuba Gooding, Jr. for Jerry Maguire
Best Supporting Actor
2001 Denzel Washington for Training Day
Best Actor
2001 Halle Berry for Monster's Ball
Best Actress
2004 Jamie Foxx for Ray
Best Actor
2004 Morgan Freeman for Million Dollar Baby
Best Supporting Actor
2006 Forest Whitaker for The Last King of Scotland
Best Actor
2006 Jennifer Hudson for Dreamgirls
Best Supporting Actress
2009 Mo'Nique for Precious
Best Supporting Actress
Halle Berry had no business winning that year. There was nothing impressive about her performance at all. And, I can't believe Jamie Foxx in "Ray" won over Russell Crowe in "A Beautiful Mind." It seems that a little preferential treatment was given in these instances, maybe others.
Halle Berry I'll give you, but Jamie Foxx was phenomenal in Ray.
Maybe, but Russell Crowe's role was a lot more challenging. Halle Berry, though, most overrated performance ever. As I recall, she didn't even speak that much in that movie.
Oops, wrong year, I meant that Russell Crowe in a "Beautiful Mind" should have won over Denzel Washington in "Training Day." Love Denzel, but come on. I was actually in Hollywood around the time of the Oscars in 2001, and there were billboards everywhere trying to guilt the voters into voting for the black actors and actresses. And, lo and behold, Denzel and Halle both won that year. The Halle one was particularly undeserved. And Denzel was great, but his role was no where near as challenging or as well-executed as Russell Crowe's. It just seemed as though politics were at play.
Anonymous wrote:Will Smith is not Oscar worthy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn't Spike Lee boycott everything?
I think I would state it differently. He is an outsider and embraces that role. However, he too should have received an Oscar by now.
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't Spike Lee boycott everything?
Anonymous wrote:Speaking of robbed - The thread on Eddie Murphy reminds me of Dreamgirls. He'd won almost every major award leading up to the Oscars then loses to Alan Arkin.
'Anonymous wrote:Blacks scream for equal treatment but what they really want is SPECIAL treatment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The sad part to me is that ONLY black entertainers/actors seem to be piping up about the issue. Thereby making it a 'black issue', which will be summarily dismissed. Jada Pinkett Smith should take a step back and let some other hues voice their concerns. Plenty of Asian and Latino actors and directors are major contributors. Same issue every time there's a panel on affirmative action. Black people march out front and it becomes all out black vs. white. It will never resonate that way.
Blacks are the most established and organized minority in the country, and many whites want to support them given the history of slavery and civil rights, so it's easier for them to be vocal about stuff.
The sad part to me is that blacks primarily seem to care about blacks, instead of including and inspiring all minorities. That dilutes the potential power of the growing number of non-whites.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actors nominate actors, producers nominate producers, directors nominate directors and so on. Presumably the they nominate what they feel are outstanding. Do we now need Affirmative Action in The Academy Awards ? Jada Pinkett Smith cannot act her way out of a paper sack.
Please read further up this thread. It's partially about the actual nominations (no Idris Elba, Michael B Jordan, etc), but also about the lack of opportunity for actors of color. If actors of color aren't cast in Oscar-worthy roles, they can't be nominated for Oscars.
Anonymous wrote:Blacks scream for equal treatment but what they really want is SPECIAL treatment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have had some heavily black ones in the past. If you look at in relation to the demographics of the entire Nation...there was one year when almost every one of the 4 major categories were won by AA.
http://www.uticapubliclibrary.org/resources/literature-and-film-guides/african-american-oscar-winners-and-nominees-acting/
The African American Actors who have won Academy Awards (Oscars)
1939 Hattie McDaniel for Gone With the Wind
Best Supporting Actress
1963 Sidney Poitier for Lilies of the Field
Best Actor
1982 Louis Gossett, Jr. for An Officer and a Gentlemen
Best Supporting Actor
1989 Denzel Washington for Glory
Best Supporting Actor
1990 Whoopi Goldberg for Ghost
Best Supporting Actress
1996 Cuba Gooding, Jr. for Jerry Maguire
Best Supporting Actor
2001 Denzel Washington for Training Day
Best Actor
2001 Halle Berry for Monster's Ball
Best Actress
2004 Jamie Foxx for Ray
Best Actor
2004 Morgan Freeman for Million Dollar Baby
Best Supporting Actor
2006 Forest Whitaker for The Last King of Scotland
Best Actor
2006 Jennifer Hudson for Dreamgirls
Best Supporting Actress
2009 Mo'Nique for Precious
Best Supporting Actress
Halle Berry had no business winning that year. There was nothing impressive about her performance at all. And, I can't believe Jamie Foxx in "Ray" won over Russell Crowe in "A Beautiful Mind." It seems that a little preferential treatment was given in these instances, maybe others.
Halle Berry I'll give you, but Jamie Foxx was phenomenal in Ray.
Maybe, but Russell Crowe's role was a lot more challenging. Halle Berry, though, most overrated performance ever. As I recall, she didn't even speak that much in that movie.
Oops, wrong year, I meant that Russell Crowe in a "Beautiful Mind" should have won over Denzel Washington in "Training Day." Love Denzel, but come on. I was actually in Hollywood around the time of the Oscars in 2001, and there were billboards everywhere trying to guilt the voters into voting for the black actors and actresses. And, lo and behold, Denzel and Halle both won that year. The Halle one was particularly undeserved. And Denzel was great, but his role was no where near as challenging or as well-executed as Russell Crowe's. It just seemed as though politics were at play.
I am glad you got your year right, but I understand, all Black men look alike. Anyway, there was controversy surrounding the character that Russell Crowe portrayed in "A Beautiful Mind", and the Oscars backed away. Also, Denzel was awarded the Oscar for "Training Days" for his accumulative work, just like Leonardo will receive the Oscar for his cumulative work this year. Denzel had been snubbed so many times for better acting roles than TD and the Oscars were running from ABM controversy. Coincidentally, LC has also been snubbed for better performances than Revenant. FWIW, I was not happy with Denzel's win and thought he should have one for Malcom X, Pelican Brief, and Hurricane.