Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is ignoring the black on black crime. neither is right.
So where are the protests over the black on black crimes?
You are a fool and clearly don't read. The last time they marched and shut down the magnificent mile, was over black on black crime. Didn't know that did you?
Resorting to name calling does not respond to the basic issue!
Can you really compare the token demonstrations that have taken place against black on black violence with what BLM is doing to protest violence by law enforcement?
In the case of Chicago, these demonstrations should be taking place in the heart of the South side where the decimation of young blacks is occurring. But that will not happen, will it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is ignoring the black on black crime. neither is right.
So where are the protests over the black on black crimes?
You are a fool and clearly don't read. The last time they marched and shut down the magnificent mile, was over black on black crime. Didn't know that did you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.
Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.
Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.
A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.
That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.
Well, not exactly. The implicit premise of this kind of protest is that it is ethical to inflict costs on uninvolved people, such as random shoppers, so that they will pressure politicians to appease the protestors. I take issue with that premise, but BLM is making a tactical error. Attempting to hold whites as a whole collectively accountable for criminal conduct by the police will merely prompt a response where whites are incentivized to hold blacks collectively accountable for black crime as a whole, which is orders of magnitude more prevalent. And whites remain the majority and are well armed. I just don't see how that endgame looks good for BLM.
The problem with your hypothesis is that it assumes that support/or non of BLM is by race. As a white woman, and I take offense to that. I support any American who exercises their rights to protest an injustice in America. In fact it is our responsibility to do so. Just like 55 years ago when some shoppers were also inconvenienced at a Woolworth department store soda counter in Greensboro, North Carolina.
The Blue Wall of Silence that permeates our police force aids it in becoming a criminal entity. Shooting unarmed citizens they are charged to protect and serve is horrendous. The facts that more black men are being shot by police when they are a minority only strengths the argument that racial bias exists.
You make me laugh.
As a white woman, are you working directly with kids like Laquan?
I do - every single day.
So this white woman puts her money where her mouth is. Standing around, protesting does nothing.
all hot air, no action - So people inconvenienced shoppers for a day. Amazon is the solution to that problem.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.
Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.
Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.
A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.
That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.
Well, not exactly. The implicit premise of this kind of protest is that it is ethical to inflict costs on uninvolved people, such as random shoppers, so that they will pressure politicians to appease the protestors. I take issue with that premise, but BLM is making a tactical error. Attempting to hold whites as a whole collectively accountable for criminal conduct by the police will merely prompt a response where whites are incentivized to hold blacks collectively accountable for black crime as a whole, which is orders of magnitude more prevalent. And whites remain the majority and are well armed. I just don't see how that endgame looks good for BLM.
The problem with your hypothesis is that it assumes that support/or non of BLM is by race. As a white woman, and I take offense to that. I support any American who exercises their rights to protest an injustice in America. In fact it is our responsibility to do so. Just like 55 years ago when some shoppers were also inconvenienced at a Woolworth department store soda counter in Greensboro, North Carolina.
The Blue Wall of Silence that permeates our police force aids it in becoming a criminal entity. Shooting unarmed citizens they are charged to protect and serve is horrendous. The facts that more black men are being shot by police when they are a minority only strengths the argument that racial bias exists.
You make me laugh.
As a white woman, are you working directly with kids like Laquan?
I do - every single day.
So this white woman puts her money where her mouth is. Standing around, protesting does nothing.
all hot air, no action - So people inconvenienced shoppers for a day. Amazon is the solution to that problem.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.
Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.
Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.
A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.
That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.
Well, not exactly. The implicit premise of this kind of protest is that it is ethical to inflict costs on uninvolved people, such as random shoppers, so that they will pressure politicians to appease the protestors. I take issue with that premise, but BLM is making a tactical error. Attempting to hold whites as a whole collectively accountable for criminal conduct by the police will merely prompt a response where whites are incentivized to hold blacks collectively accountable for black crime as a whole, which is orders of magnitude more prevalent. And whites remain the majority and are well armed. I just don't see how that endgame looks good for BLM.
The problem with your hypothesis is that it assumes that support/or non of BLM is by race. As a white woman, and I take offense to that. I support any American who exercises their rights to protest an injustice in America. In fact it is our responsibility to do so. Just like 55 years ago when some shoppers were also inconvenienced at a Woolworth department store soda counter in Greensboro, North Carolina.
The Blue Wall of Silence that permeates our police force aids it in becoming a criminal entity. Shooting unarmed citizens they are charged to protect and serve is horrendous. The facts that more black men are being shot by police when they are a minority only strengths the argument that racial bias exists.
You make me laugh.
As a white woman, are you working directly with kids like Laquan?
I do - every single day.
So this white woman puts her money where her mouth is. Standing around, protesting does nothing.
all hot air, no action - So people inconvenienced shoppers for a day. Amazon is the solution to that problem.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.
Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.
Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.
A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.
That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.
Well, not exactly. The implicit premise of this kind of protest is that it is ethical to inflict costs on uninvolved people, such as random shoppers, so that they will pressure politicians to appease the protestors. I take issue with that premise, but BLM is making a tactical error. Attempting to hold whites as a whole collectively accountable for criminal conduct by the police will merely prompt a response where whites are incentivized to hold blacks collectively accountable for black crime as a whole, which is orders of magnitude more prevalent. And whites remain the majority and are well armed. I just don't see how that endgame looks good for BLM.
The problem with your hypothesis is that it assumes that support/or non of BLM is by race. As a white woman, and I take offense to that. I support any American who exercises their rights to protest an injustice in America. In fact it is our responsibility to do so. Just like 55 years ago when some shoppers were also inconvenienced at a Woolworth department store soda counter in Greensboro, North Carolina.
The Blue Wall of Silence that permeates our police force aids it in becoming a criminal entity. Shooting unarmed citizens they are charged to protect and serve is horrendous. The facts that more black men are being shot by police when they are a minority only strengths the argument that racial bias exists.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?
You shouldn't be shot and killed by your own government.
No, but you should also - as a parent - be responsible for your own kids. When parents lose control of their kids, the government takes over - social services or jail. That's the way it goes, folks.
Of course, we can say that poverty is the root of all evil. But again, with social programs (WIC, Medicaid, Job Corps, migrant training, you name it), why do people stay within victim mode?
We've basically fucked ourselves by ignoring how to wean people off programs.
The answer isn't more government. Instead, we need more transition services. Furthermore, mandate sensitivity training for police.
But most importantly? Parents NEED to be parents. I don't care how goddamn poor you are. Your kids come first. There are more than a few success stories out there of people overcoming the odds.
Spot on!
But don't expect your viewpoint to receive much support from liberals.
Really?? You don't think "liberals" want people to be parents too? No one is absolving parents of their responsibility. How long did it take for them to find the guy who killed the 9 year old? One week. How long did it take the police to release the video of the cop - 14 MONTHS and ONLY after going to court.
The LaQuan kid was a ward of the state. His mother abandoned him, then when she got him back at 3, her boyfriend beat him up. Oh sure, that kid had a chance?? The city settled with the family for $5M last year. I am a liberal and I want to know what the hell for? His mother got $5M for being a fucked up mother?
I've seen a ton of coverage on the guy and the kid killed. A ton. And there should be.
I've come to realized that there is just a generation lost. I hate to say it, but alot of those folks can never work. They just can't. They haven't seen someone go to work in 3 generations. Seriously. I've seen it with my husband's family. After meeting them, I realized that it is what it is. These folks have NO skills. They can't even communicate. You can complain about government services if you want, but you will be paying for these people - either in jail, as the homeless or through TANF.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.
Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.
Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.
A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.
That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.
Well, not exactly. The implicit premise of this kind of protest is that it is ethical to inflict costs on uninvolved people, such as random shoppers, so that they will pressure politicians to appease the protestors. I take issue with that premise, but BLM is making a tactical error. Attempting to hold whites as a whole collectively accountable for criminal conduct by the police will merely prompt a response where whites are incentivized to hold blacks collectively accountable for black crime as a whole, which is orders of magnitude more prevalent. And whites remain the majority and are well armed. I just don't see how that endgame looks good for BLM.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.
Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.
Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.
A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.
That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.
Well, not exactly. The implicit premise of this kind of protest is that it is ethical to inflict costs on uninvolved people, such as random shoppers, so that they will pressure politicians to appease the protestors. I take issue with that premise, but BLM is making a tactical error. Attempting to hold whites as a whole collectively accountable for criminal conduct by the police will merely prompt a response where whites are incentivized to hold blacks collectively accountable for black crime as a whole, which is orders of magnitude more prevalent. And whites remain the majority and are well armed. I just don't see how that endgame looks good for BLM.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.
Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.
Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.
A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.
That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?
You shouldn't be shot and killed by your own government.
No, but you should also - as a parent - be responsible for your own kids. When parents lose control of their kids, the government takes over - social services or jail. That's the way it goes, folks.
Of course, we can say that poverty is the root of all evil. But again, with social programs (WIC, Medicaid, Job Corps, migrant training, you name it), why do people stay within victim mode?
We've basically fucked ourselves by ignoring how to wean people off programs.
The answer isn't more government. Instead, we need more transition services. Furthermore, mandate sensitivity training for police.
But most importantly? Parents NEED to be parents. I don't care how goddamn poor you are. Your kids come first. There are more than a few success stories out there of people overcoming the odds.
Like Sandra Bland? She was college educated...didn't help her much. or how about the black guy in Florida, who was married and the drummer for his local church...cop really didn't care when he fired multiple shots into his chest. goodness lets not count the stories you dont hear about it. i read one on Huffington post and it made my skin crawl
Unfortunately, liberal arts degrees in the U.S. require zero brains. Admissions are not competitive either. So "college-educated" is not descriptive at all in this context.
Oh please and GWB jr...was a Rhodes Scholar? The point is educated or not blacks are still victims of police brutality and its been doing on LONGER then the "Black on black" issue which started in the 80's with the introduction of guns and crack into black urban communites
Ooh, I loves me a good conspiracy theory!![]()
Conspiracy theory...how and when? Please Google the Contra arms DEALS. Regan administration turned its back while his "friends" used the crack cocaine industry as a way to fund the Contra's in their fight against the "communist' rebels. White people like you are the problem. You know these things happen then deny them afterwards, and act as if blacks are just violent and drug users. I grew up in DC during the 80's and 90's and Know what I saw
Ronald Reagan SAVED Latin America. If it weren't for Reagan, all of Latin America would have become like Sandanista Nicaragua, Venezuela and Cuba. Viva el Gipper!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?
You shouldn't be shot and killed by your own government.
No, but you should also - as a parent - be responsible for your own kids. When parents lose control of their kids, the government takes over - social services or jail. That's the way it goes, folks.
Of course, we can say that poverty is the root of all evil. But again, with social programs (WIC, Medicaid, Job Corps, migrant training, you name it), why do people stay within victim mode?
We've basically fucked ourselves by ignoring how to wean people off programs.
The answer isn't more government. Instead, we need more transition services. Furthermore, mandate sensitivity training for police.
But most importantly? Parents NEED to be parents. I don't care how goddamn poor you are. Your kids come first. There are more than a few success stories out there of people overcoming the odds.
Spot on!
But don't expect your viewpoint to receive much support from liberals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Conspiracy theory...how and when? Please Google the Contra arms DEALS. Regan administration turned its back while his "friends" used the crack cocaine industry as a way to fund the Contra's in their fight against the "communist' rebels. White people like you are the problem. You know these things happen then deny them afterwards, and act as if blacks are just violent and drug users. I grew up in DC during the 80's and 90's and Know what I saw
Why do you always have to blame others for your problems? Take some fricking responsibility for your behavior and how black kids are being raised.
Yes, there was rampant discrimination against blacks for a long time and there is still some. Affirmative action gave some minorities a leg-up in an effort to compensate. I have personally hired blacks who were less qualified than their white counterparts as part of affirmative action at companies where I worked.
There are things that blacks can do to improve their lot.
For a start, get fathers involved in raising their kids as opposed to just producing children through multiple mothers and then leaving them to fend for themselves. When 72% of black children are being raised by single mothers you have a problem. No point in blaming Reagan and crack cocaine.
Have you ever considered the millions of immigrants who come to the country from Asia/India and Africa and make good despite language problems and other hurdles? Why is it that Nigerian children in this country are doing exceptionally well?
Keep blaming your problems on others and nothing will change - whether there is a BLM movement or not.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Conspiracy theory...how and when? Please Google the Contra arms DEALS. Regan administration turned its back while his "friends" used the crack cocaine industry as a way to fund the Contra's in their fight against the "communist' rebels. White people like you are the problem. You know these things happen then deny them afterwards, and act as if blacks are just violent and drug users. I grew up in DC during the 80's and 90's and Know what I saw
Why do you always have to blame others for your problems? Take some fricking responsibility for your behavior and how black kids are being raised.
Yes, there was rampant discrimination against blacks for a long time and there is still some. Affirmative action gave some minorities a leg-up in an effort to compensate. I have personally hired blacks who were less qualified than their white counterparts as part of affirmative action at companies where I worked.
There are things that blacks can do to improve their lot.
For a start, get fathers involved in raising their kids as opposed to just producing children through multiple mothers and then leaving them to fend for themselves. When 72% of black children are being raised by single mothers you have a problem. No point in blaming Reagan and crack cocaine.
Have you ever considered the millions of immigrants who come to the country from Asia/India and Africa and make good despite language problems and other hurdles? Why is it that Nigerian children in this country are doing exceptionally well?
Keep blaming your problems on others and nothing will change - whether there is a BLM movement or not.
Anonymous wrote:I knew the PP shooter in Colorado was white once they reported he walked out alive. I didn't need to wake up to see his mugshot for confirmation. I just knew.