Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:40
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Can you give an example of "old DC" that has been lost because of gentrification? When I look around, I see the Howard Theater restored and the Lincoln Theater restored and a bunch of other things in far better shape then they were not long ago. I'm not a fan of the chain development in Gallery Place, but I like it more than the adult bookstores that were there when I came to DC. I miss DC Space, but there are enough similar places to take its place. What exactly has been lost that you are so worked up about?
Well for starters the entire area where Nats Park was built was stolen via eminent domain.
The property owners were f*cked over.
I know of one person who said the city's appraisal of his property was off by hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Dont even get me started about how I feel about the Nats.
That doesn't really answer my question. The stadium was another of Mayor William's projects. If the land owners were screwed over, it was most likely by local developers with the Williams administration's help. Back in my university days, I ventured down to Tracks a time or two. While it was unique in its way, I can't say that it and the rest of what was there was preferable to what we have now.
I agree with you that the City has become incredibly expensive and I strongly believe that more should be done to prevent long-time residents from being pushed out. I am very suspicious of developers and their bought and paid for politicians. But, I disagree that all problems should be laid at the feet of newcomers. Take another example, 14th Street. That is gentrifier-central. But, that was Mayor Barry's creation. Barry put the Reeves Center there for the exact purpose of spurring development. It was his pet developer that was behind a lot of it. Funny, the only thing I used to go to 14th Street for was the New Vegas Lounge. It's still there (though I haven't been in years).
Tracks was awesome.
That was not my kind of music or scene but it has become legendary among locals & non locals.
They had a reunion gathering a couple of years ago complete with patron pictures and even club memorabilia.
Tracks was much better than the bullshit upscale bottle service DREAM/LOVE era clubs.
I used to go to the old Black Cat.
Haven't been to the new one yet.
I keep saying I am going to go but then something else comes up and I end up not going.
Bummer.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:33
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
"May You Live in Interesting Times.
Ancient Curse."
from Terry Pratchett
P.S. "Careful what you pray for" from St. Theresa of Avila: "There are more tears shed over answered prayers than over unanswered prayers."
Ancient Curse."
from Terry Pratchett
P.S. "Careful what you pray for" from St. Theresa of Avila: "There are more tears shed over answered prayers than over unanswered prayers."
Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:32
Subject: Re:Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dare anyone to try and refute this.
What you are missing is that the new population and development are not a one-way street. Transplants haven't only driven development, development attracted transplants. If you are really upset about the stereotypical person presented in that mural, you need to have a discussion with Mayor Williams (who continues to have an important role in city affairs). It was his development plan that aimed at attracting exactly that demographic. Once Williams got them here, additional development catered to their desires. But don't act like transplants invaded DC like a Mongol horde.
At one point DC added 30,000 residents in 27 months... That looks like a Mongol horde to me.
Leechers gonna leech.
During which period? I'm guessing 2011-2012ish?
Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:26
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I prefer Bed Bath and Beyond to having one of the highest crime rates in the country.
I prefer Bed Bath and Beyond to not having anywhere to go to buy the things that Bed Bath and Beyond sells.
Or...Virginia!
We shall see if you still feel the same way about VA once your children enter their DCPS middle school years.
What makes you think I don't have a middle schooler?
Well if you do have one he or she is in all likelihood enrolled in a private school just like I was at that age.
DCPS and privates are the only education options? I think 44% of kids in this city would disagree.
Private > DCPS
Private > Charter
Private > Home School
Private > Dropping Out
Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:26
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
"I hate gentrified DC" OP is boring.
jsteele
09/30/2015 21:25
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Can you give an example of "old DC" that has been lost because of gentrification? When I look around, I see the Howard Theater restored and the Lincoln Theater restored and a bunch of other things in far better shape then they were not long ago. I'm not a fan of the chain development in Gallery Place, but I like it more than the adult bookstores that were there when I came to DC. I miss DC Space, but there are enough similar places to take its place. What exactly has been lost that you are so worked up about?
Well for starters the entire area where Nats Park was built was stolen via eminent domain.
The property owners were f*cked over.
I know of one person who said the city's appraisal of his property was off by hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Dont even get me started about how I feel about the Nats.
That doesn't really answer my question. The stadium was another of Mayor William's projects. If the land owners were screwed over, it was most likely by local developers with the Williams administration's help. Back in my university days, I ventured down to Tracks a time or two. While it was unique in its way, I can't say that it and the rest of what was there was preferable to what we have now.
I agree with you that the City has become incredibly expensive and I strongly believe that more should be done to prevent long-time residents from being pushed out. I am very suspicious of developers and their bought and paid for politicians. But, I disagree that all problems should be laid at the feet of newcomers. Take another example, 14th Street. That is gentrifier-central. But, that was Mayor Barry's creation. Barry put the Reeves Center there for the exact purpose of spurring development. It was his pet developer that was behind a lot of it. Funny, the only thing I used to go to 14th Street for was the New Vegas Lounge. It's still there (though I haven't been in years).
Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:23
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I moved here in early 90s. Love some of the changes to the City (downtown!). Miss others (adams Morgan is sad).
Cities change.
Starbucks?
Panera?
Potbelly?
Walgreens?
Forever 21?
H&M?
J Crew?
CVS?
Bed Bath Beyond?
Seriously?
Are you a troll?
No, but I also travel more than 2 blocks away from Chinatown metro. You may want to get out more and rediscover some interesting things going on in both new and old DC.
There is hardly anything left of the old DC.
You wouldn't know that though because you are a gentrifier.
I don't think gentrifier means what you think it means.
Ok.
You are a recent arrival urban try hard.
Your assumption being that I didn't move from a larger, more urban environment. You realize, that many people move to Washington for school - or work - from larger cities around the world.
Ok let me guess.
You moved here from a more urban & gritty 2000-2010 New York City?
LOL
Once again.
Spare me.
The people who do come from larger cities around the world would agree about the current incarnation of DC sucking.
I know this because they all tell me so.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:11
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
I will there were more interesting clothing boutiques.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:10
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I prefer Bed Bath and Beyond to having one of the highest crime rates in the country.
I prefer Bed Bath and Beyond to not having anywhere to go to buy the things that Bed Bath and Beyond sells.
Or...Virginia!
We shall see if you still feel the same way about VA once your children enter their DCPS middle school years.
What makes you think I don't have a middle schooler?
Well if you do have one he or she is in all likelihood enrolled in a private school just like I was at that age.
DCPS and privates are the only education options? I think 44% of kids in this city would disagree.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:08
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I moved here in early 90s. Love some of the changes to the City (downtown!). Miss others (adams Morgan is sad).
Cities change.
Starbucks?
Panera?
Potbelly?
Walgreens?
Forever 21?
H&M?
J Crew?
CVS?
Bed Bath Beyond?
Seriously?
Are you a troll?
No, but I also travel more than 2 blocks away from Chinatown metro. You may want to get out more and rediscover some interesting things going on in both new and old DC.
There is hardly anything left of the old DC.
You wouldn't know that though because you are a gentrifier.
I don't think gentrifier means what you think it means.
Ok.
You are a recent arrival urban try hard.
Your assumption being that I didn't move from a larger, more urban environment. You realize, that many people move to Washington for school - or work - from larger cities around the world.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 21:02
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I prefer Bed Bath and Beyond to having one of the highest crime rates in the country.
I prefer Bed Bath and Beyond to not having anywhere to go to buy the things that Bed Bath and Beyond sells.
Or...Virginia!
We shall see if you still feel the same way about VA once your children enter their DCPS middle school years.
What makes you think I don't have a middle schooler?
Well if you do have one he or she is in all likelihood enrolled in a private school just like I was at that age.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 20:59
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I moved here in early 90s. Love some of the changes to the City (downtown!). Miss others (adams Morgan is sad).
Cities change.
Starbucks?
Panera?
Potbelly?
Walgreens?
Forever 21?
H&M?
J Crew?
CVS?
Bed Bath Beyond?
Seriously?
Are you a troll?
No, but I also travel more than 2 blocks away from Chinatown metro. You may want to get out more and rediscover some interesting things going on in both new and old DC.
There is hardly anything left of the old DC.
You wouldn't know that though because you are a gentrifier.
Can you give an example of "old DC" that has been lost because of gentrification? When I look around, I see the Howard Theater restored and the Lincoln Theater restored and a bunch of other things in far better shape then they were not long ago. I'm not a fan of the chain development in Gallery Place, but I like it more than the adult bookstores that were there when I came to DC. I miss DC Space, but there are enough similar places to take its place. What exactly has been lost that you are so worked up about?
Well for starters the entire area where Nats Park was built was stolen via eminent domain.
The property owners were f*cked over.
I know of one person who said the city's appraisal of his property was off by hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Dont even get me started about how I feel about the Nats.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 20:46
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I moved here in early 90s. Love some of the changes to the City (downtown!). Miss others (adams Morgan is sad).
Cities change.
Starbucks?
Panera?
Potbelly?
Walgreens?
Forever 21?
H&M?
J Crew?
CVS?
Bed Bath Beyond?
Seriously?
Are you a troll?
No, but I also travel more than 2 blocks away from Chinatown metro. You may want to get out more and rediscover some interesting things going on in both new and old DC.
There is hardly anything left of the old DC.
You wouldn't know that though because you are a gentrifier.
I don't think gentrifier means what you think it means.
Ok.
You are a recent arrival urban try hard.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 20:45
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I moved here in early 90s. Love some of the changes to the City (downtown!). Miss others (adams Morgan is sad).
Cities change.
Starbucks?
Panera?
Potbelly?
Walgreens?
Forever 21?
H&M?
J Crew?
CVS?
Bed Bath Beyond?
Seriously?
Are you a troll?
No, but I also travel more than 2 blocks away from Chinatown metro. You may want to get out more and rediscover some interesting things going on in both new and old DC.
There is hardly anything left of the old DC.
You wouldn't know that though because you are a gentrifier.
Can you give an example of "old DC" that has been lost because of gentrification? When I look around, I see the Howard Theater restored and the Lincoln Theater restored and a bunch of other things in far better shape then they were not long ago. I'm not a fan of the chain development in Gallery Place, but I like it more than the adult bookstores that were there when I came to DC. I miss DC Space, but there are enough similar places to take its place. What exactly has been lost that you are so worked up about?
+10000
Anonymous
09/30/2015 20:42
Subject: Everytime a condo is built and/or a gentrifier moves to DC the city becomes less & less interesting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I prefer Bed Bath and Beyond to having one of the highest crime rates in the country.
I prefer Bed Bath and Beyond to not having anywhere to go to buy the things that Bed Bath and Beyond sells.
Or...Virginia!
We shall see if you still feel the same way about VA once your children enter their DCPS middle school years.
What makes you think I don't have a middle schooler?