Anonymous wrote:Know what will be the ultimate destruction of this nation? Constantly bending to the 'it hurt my feelings' crowd. I guarantee you that once you bend to A, we will have to bend to B and C and D. Ad nauseum. And I'm not talking just about black people. I'm talking about feminists and all other 'outrage' groups.

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Anonymous wrote:It is weird that it is flown anywhere outside of private residences. It was the flag of a rebellious treason in the USA. It represents an oppressive regime that sold and purchased black bodies.

What is "rebellious treason" to you can be considered "a quest for independence" by others.

A flag is nothing but a symbol, and of course different people can perceive the same flag in different ways. The Confederate Battle Flag is no exception.

Oh FFS, you lost. Get over it already.

You fool, my ancestors were not even in this country then. And, given the standards of living of AAs in the US today, and their constante whining, I am a bit confused about who really won.

I'm confused about why a (relatively recent) immigrant would give enough of a damn about this flag to defend it.

I don't give a damn about that flag, and I am not defending it. I do give a damn about people trying to impose their views on others, about people judging others without understanding them. (If this thread was full of people from SC attacking people from NY, I'd be "defending the North")

What is it that we don't understand about the people of South Carolina that explains their support for flying the Confederate Battle Flag over their state capital? Keep in mind that the history of the decision to fly that flag is very well documented.

I don't think we understand whether the majority of South Carolinians who want to fly that flag do so (a) for chauvinist reasons (the most typical reason to rally behind a flag--any flag), or (b) for racist ones (they want to make the statement that blacks are not welcome there). In the absence of such understanding, jumping straight to option (b) is wrong, IMO.

Does it really matter? In (b) they offend blacks because they hate them; in (a) they offend blacks because they are indifferent to them. Either way, they are disrespectful to the concerns of 30% of their population.

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Anonymous wrote:It is weird that it is flown anywhere outside of private residences. It was the flag of a rebellious treason in the USA. It represents an oppressive regime that sold and purchased black bodies.

What is "rebellious treason" to you can be considered "a quest for independence" by others.

A flag is nothing but a symbol, and of course different people can perceive the same flag in different ways. The Confederate Battle Flag is no exception.

Oh FFS, you lost. Get over it already.

You fool, my ancestors were not even in this country then. And, given the standards of living of AAs in the US today, and their constante whining, I am a bit confused about who really won.

I'm confused about why a (relatively recent) immigrant would give enough of a damn about this flag to defend it.

I don't give a damn about that flag, and I am not defending it. I do give a damn about people trying to impose their views on others, about people judging others without understanding them. (If this thread was full of people from SC attacking people from NY, I'd be "defending the North")

What is it that we don't understand about the people of South Carolina that explains their support for flying the Confederate Battle Flag over their state capital? Keep in mind that the history of the decision to fly that flag is very well documented.

I think the true question is what political gain do liberals have by destroying Hayley and the state of SC?

I really don't know why you have to see every single thing as part of some political game. If something is wrong, it is wrong. It doesn't matter what the political calculus is. If South Carolina were flying the ISIS flag over their capital, would you just ignore it?

Yesterday, the South Carolina and United States flags at the SC statehouse were lowered to half-mast. The Confederate flag remained at full-mast. Why? Because SC state law prohibits any modification to the flag without the legislature's approval.

So, a guy with a Confederate flag on his car drives up to the oldest black church in the South, goes in and murders 9 people during a prayer service, and that flag that he honors is the only one of the three that can't be lowered. Literally, as a result of Roof's actions, the Confederate flag flew above all other flags as the SC statehouse. You don't find anything wrong with that?

What is your excuse for putting political above decency?

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Anonymous wrote:Something very important is being lost in this discussion. People are spending a lot of time talking about the Civil War, but SC did not start flying the confederate flag on the capitol grounds until the 1960s, and this was done as a symbol of resistance to the burgeoning civil rights movement (this point is very well documented by contemporaneous statements). So all this talk about the Civil War is really besides the point. The stated purpose of flying the flag (at least in SC) is hostility to equal rights for African-Americans.

This is exactly right. It is ironic that posters telling us we don't understand South Carolina don't seem to know about the history of South Carolina.

If the Libtards had their way, radical Islamists would be flying their colors over the Capitol of South Carolina:

What do you base that silly statement on?

Jeff - I think you've been tricked. Do you not know what the flag above actually is?

Meant Mike, not Jeff. Sorry.

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If the Libtards had their way, radical Islamists would be flying their colors over the Capitol of South Carolina:

What do you base that silly statement on?

Mark my words. The only thing keeping this Jihadi flag off the Capitol is an armed populace.

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Anonymous wrote:Something very important is being lost in this discussion. People are spending a lot of time talking about the Civil War, but SC did not start flying the confederate flag on the capitol grounds until the 1960s, and this was done as a symbol of resistance to the burgeoning civil rights movement (this point is very well documented by contemporaneous statements). So all this talk about the Civil War is really besides the point. The stated purpose of flying the flag (at least in SC) is hostility to equal rights for African-Americans.

This is exactly right. It is ironic that posters telling us we don't understand South Carolina don't seem to know about the history of South Carolina.

If the Libtards had their way, radical Islamists would be flying their colors over the Capitol of South Carolina:

What do you base that silly statement on?

Jeff - I think you've been tricked. Do you not know what the flag above actually is?

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something very important is being lost in this discussion. People are spending a lot of time talking about the Civil War, but SC did not start flying the confederate flag on the capitol grounds until the 1960s, and this was done as a symbol of resistance to the burgeoning civil rights movement (this point is very well documented by contemporaneous statements). So all this talk about the Civil War is really besides the point. The stated purpose of flying the flag (at least in SC) is hostility to equal rights for African-Americans.

This is exactly right. It is ironic that posters telling us we don't understand South Carolina don't seem to know about the history of South Carolina.

If the Libtards had their way, radical Islamists would be flying their colors over the Capitol of South Carolina:

What do you base that silly statement on?

MikeL wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something very important is being lost in this discussion. People are spending a lot of time talking about the Civil War, but SC did not start flying the confederate flag on the capitol grounds until the 1960s, and this was done as a symbol of resistance to the burgeoning civil rights movement (this point is very well documented by contemporaneous statements). So all this talk about the Civil War is really besides the point. The stated purpose of flying the flag (at least in SC) is hostility to equal rights for African-Americans.

This is exactly right. It is ironic that posters telling us we don't understand South Carolina don't seem to know about the history of South Carolina.

If the Libtards had their way, radical Islamists would be flying their colors over the Capitol of South Carolina:

What do you base that silly statement on?

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something very important is being lost in this discussion. People are spending a lot of time talking about the Civil War, but SC did not start flying the confederate flag on the capitol grounds until the 1960s, and this was done as a symbol of resistance to the burgeoning civil rights movement (this point is very well documented by contemporaneous statements). So all this talk about the Civil War is really besides the point. The stated purpose of flying the flag (at least in SC) is hostility to equal rights for African-Americans.

This is exactly right. It is ironic that posters telling us we don't understand South Carolina don't seem to know about the history of South Carolina.

If the Libtards had their way, radical Islamists would be flying their colors over the Capitol of South Carolina:

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Anonymous wrote:Something very important is being lost in this discussion. People are spending a lot of time talking about the Civil War, but SC did not start flying the confederate flag on the capitol grounds until the 1960s, and this was done as a symbol of resistance to the burgeoning civil rights movement (this point is very well documented by contemporaneous statements). So all this talk about the Civil War is really besides the point. The stated purpose of flying the flag (at least in SC) is hostility to equal rights for African-Americans.

This is exactly right. It is ironic that posters telling us we don't understand South Carolina don't seem to know about the history of South Carolina.

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Anonymous wrote:It is weird that it is flown anywhere outside of private residences. It was the flag of a rebellious treason in the USA. It represents an oppressive regime that sold and purchased black bodies.

What is "rebellious treason" to you can be considered "a quest for independence" by others.

A flag is nothing but a symbol, and of course different people can perceive the same flag in different ways. The Confederate Battle Flag is no exception.

Oh FFS, you lost. Get over it already.

You fool, my ancestors were not even in this country then. And, given the standards of living of AAs in the US today, and their constante whining, I am a bit confused about who really won.

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What is "rebellious treason" to you can be considered "a quest for independence for white residents" by others.

A flag is nothing but a symbol, and of course different people can perceive the same flag in different ways. The Confederate Battle Flag is no exception.

Anonymous wrote:Something very important is being lost in this discussion. People are spending a lot of time talking about the Civil War, but SC did not start flying the confederate flag on the capitol grounds until the 1960s, and this was done as a symbol of resistance to the burgeoning civil rights movement (this point is very well documented by contemporaneous statements). So all this talk about the Civil War is really besides the point. The stated purpose of flying the flag (at least in SC) is hostility to equal rights for African-Americans.

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I don't think we understand whether the majority of South Carolinians who want to fly that flag do so (a) for chauvinist reasons (the most typical reason to rally behind a flag--any flag), or (b) for racist ones (they want to make the statement that blacks are not welcome there). In the absence of such understanding, jumping straight to option (b) is wrong, IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:It is weird that it is flown anywhere outside of private residences. It was the flag of a rebellious treason in the USA. It represents an oppressive regime that sold and purchased black bodies.

What is "rebellious treason" to you can be considered "a quest for independence" by others.

A flag is nothing but a symbol, and of course different people can perceive the same flag in different ways. The Confederate Battle Flag is no exception.

Oh FFS, you lost. Get over it already.

You fool, my ancestors were not even in this country then. And, given the standards of living of AAs in the US today, and their constante whining, I am a bit confused about who really won.

I'm confused about why a (relatively recent) immigrant would give enough of a damn about this flag to defend it.

Much better for him to act like illegals do, with demands of free stuff and demands that we not display the flag on our cars, etc because...raaaccciiisssttt.

Thank you to the recent immigrant who cares about his/her adopted country. Welcome!!