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Anonymous wrote:People are, of course, free to debate whether the Confederate flag represents racism. However, it is indisputable that the Confederacy was, for its entire existence, an enemy of the United States of America. Therefore, flying its flag is akin to flying a Nazi flag or the flag of another entity that was always an enemy of the U.S.

Do you know of any articles that might explain this for in depth?

Pretty much any high school history book should do.

Doesn't that tell you something about the state of education today in the public schools?

Filtered history isn't history.

If the history book you are reading tells you that it was about states rights and stops there, than that is filtered history. The fact is that to was about the right to practice slavery, and in fact a lot of it came to blows in Congress about not just keeping slavery intact in the south, but expanding it westward into the territories as they gained statehood, and that particular aspect of it is what led to a lot of the run up to the civil war. Also, if you actually take the time to critically read and compare the CSA Constitution and compare it with the US Constitution you will find that the CSA Constitution affords states less freedoms and asserts more CSA federal control, which runs contrary to the fictions that are spun today.

The right to secession was the ultimate act of states rights.

Article I Section 8 Clause 15 of the Confederate States Constitution reserves the right of the CSA to quash would-be secessions were a CSA state to want to leave the CSA:

(15) To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Confederate States, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions.

Says nothing about secession.... I am thinking confederate flag folks are more open minded than the bigots on this forum "uneducated" "bad teeth" "mean me harm" etc

That was a joke by a PP. As is saying you are open minded. What people who fly your flag have said and done (on the record) based on people's color? I think not.

Anonymous wrote:Why are confederate flag folks "open minded"?

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Anonymous wrote:People are, of course, free to debate whether the Confederate flag represents racism. However, it is indisputable that the Confederacy was, for its entire existence, an enemy of the United States of America. Therefore, flying its flag is akin to flying a Nazi flag or the flag of another entity that was always an enemy of the U.S.

Do you know of any articles that might explain this for in depth?

Pretty much any high school history book should do.

Doesn't that tell you something about the state of education today in the public schools?

Filtered history isn't history.

If the history book you are reading tells you that it was about states rights and stops there, than that is filtered history. The fact is that to was about the right to practice slavery, and in fact a lot of it came to blows in Congress about not just keeping slavery intact in the south, but expanding it westward into the territories as they gained statehood, and that particular aspect of it is what led to a lot of the run up to the civil war. Also, if you actually take the time to critically read and compare the CSA Constitution and compare it with the US Constitution you will find that the CSA Constitution affords states less freedoms and asserts more CSA federal control, which runs contrary to the fictions that are spun today.

The right to secession was the ultimate act of states rights.

Article I Section 8 Clause 15 of the Confederate States Constitution reserves the right of the CSA to quash would-be secessions were a CSA state to want to leave the CSA:

(15) To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Confederate States, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions.

Says nothing about secession.... I am thinking confederate flag folks are more open minded than the bigots on this forum "uneducated" "bad teeth" "mean me harm" etc

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Anonymous wrote:People are, of course, free to debate whether the Confederate flag represents racism. However, it is indisputable that the Confederacy was, for its entire existence, an enemy of the United States of America. Therefore, flying its flag is akin to flying a Nazi flag or the flag of another entity that was always an enemy of the U.S.

Do you know of any articles that might explain this for in depth?

Pretty much any high school history book should do.

Doesn't that tell you something about the state of education today in the public schools?

Filtered history isn't history.

If the history book you are reading tells you that it was about states rights and stops there, than that is filtered history. The fact is that to was about the right to practice slavery, and in fact a lot of it came to blows in Congress about not just keeping slavery intact in the south, but expanding it westward into the territories as they gained statehood, and that particular aspect of it is what led to a lot of the run up to the civil war. Also, if you actually take the time to critically read and compare the CSA Constitution and compare it with the US Constitution you will find that the CSA Constitution affords states less freedoms and asserts more CSA federal control, which runs contrary to the fictions that are spun today.

The right to secession was the ultimate act of states rights.

Article I Section 8 Clause 15 of the Confederate States Constitution reserves the right of the CSA to quash would-be secessions were a CSA state to want to leave the CSA:

(15) To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Confederate States, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions.

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Anonymous wrote:The Confederate flag now represents the undereducated with few teeth.

That's the bottom line!

But seriously, I am a minority and whenever encountering those who fly the Confederate flag in my travels, they have been silently hostile or openly aggressive towards me or my family. Since I don't know these people, it's clearly bc they are judging me based on skin color. They are racists and there is no other explanation.

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Anonymous wrote:People are, of course, free to debate whether the Confederate flag represents racism. However, it is indisputable that the Confederacy was, for its entire existence, an enemy of the United States of America. Therefore, flying its flag is akin to flying a Nazi flag or the flag of another entity that was always an enemy of the U.S.

Do you know of any articles that might explain this for in depth?

Pretty much any high school history book should do.

Doesn't that tell you something about the state of education today in the public schools?

Filtered history isn't history.

If the history book you are reading tells you that it was about states rights and stops there, than that is filtered history. The fact is that to was about the right to practice slavery, and in fact a lot of it came to blows in Congress about not just keeping slavery intact in the south, but expanding it westward into the territories as they gained statehood, and that particular aspect of it is what led to a lot of the run up to the civil war. Also, if you actually take the time to critically read and compare the CSA Constitution and compare it with the US Constitution you will find that the CSA Constitution affords states less freedoms and asserts more CSA federal control, which runs contrary to the fictions that are spun today.

I agree that would be filtered history. Leaving out the original meaning is also filtered history.

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Anonymous wrote:People are, of course, free to debate whether the Confederate flag represents racism. However, it is indisputable that the Confederacy was, for its entire existence, an enemy of the United States of America. Therefore, flying its flag is akin to flying a Nazi flag or the flag of another entity that was always an enemy of the U.S.

Do you know of any articles that might explain this for in depth?

Pretty much any high school history book should do.

Doesn't that tell you something about the state of education today in the public schools?

Filtered history isn't history.

If the history book you are reading tells you that it was about states rights and stops there, than that is filtered history. The fact is that to was about the right to practice slavery, and in fact a lot of it came to blows in Congress about not just keeping slavery intact in the south, but expanding it westward into the territories as they gained statehood, and that particular aspect of it is what led to a lot of the run up to the civil war. Also, if you actually take the time to critically read and compare the CSA Constitution and compare it with the US Constitution you will find that the CSA Constitution affords states less freedoms and asserts more CSA federal control, which runs contrary to the fictions that are spun today.

The right to secession was the ultimate act of states rights.

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Anonymous wrote:People are, of course, free to debate whether the Confederate flag represents racism. However, it is indisputable that the Confederacy was, for its entire existence, an enemy of the United States of America. Therefore, flying its flag is akin to flying a Nazi flag or the flag of another entity that was always an enemy of the U.S.

Do you know of any articles that might explain this for in depth?

Pretty much any high school history book should do.

Doesn't that tell you something about the state of education today in the public schools?

Filtered history isn't history.

If the history book you are reading tells you that it was about states rights and stops there, than that is filtered history. The fact is that to was about the right to practice slavery, and in fact a lot of it came to blows in Congress about not just keeping slavery intact in the south, but expanding it westward into the territories as they gained statehood, and that particular aspect of it is what led to a lot of the run up to the civil war. Also, if you actually take the time to critically read and compare the CSA Constitution and compare it with the US Constitution you will find that the CSA Constitution affords states less freedoms and asserts more CSA federal control, which runs contrary to the fictions that are spun today.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a proud descendant of confederate veterans. My father proudly displayed our confederate battle flag in Vietnam. The confederate flag fills me with pride in my region. I don't care what you have to say otherwise.

I'm a proud descendant of Scotland, and I'm happy to wear my family tartan, but I don't fly the Scottish flag at my house.

Many people do. You must be disappointed that not everybody is like you

I don't see the flag as racist. It's a flag for crying out loud. It represents the region that is culturally different from other regions withing the country. Nobody flips out when they see state flags.

I can sort of excuse black people's perspective on this. On the other hand, everything is racist for the black folks nowadays; sane people just shrug at the claim.

I do see the Confederate Flag as racist and so does every skin head in the country. It is also a Losers flag which actually makes me embarrassed for the people who display it. You lost the war that you started and yet you fly the flag to remind everyone that you are a loser?

So why legitimize a hate group that took on a symbol as their own by adopting their interpretation? It's original meaning was to represent states' rights. But I'm sure you are aware of this, no?

Nonsense. The svastika had many different meanings in many different religions before the Nazi's took it as their symbol. It is NOW a representation of hatred and murder. The original meaning makes no difference. Same with the confederate flag.

And it is terrifying to think this fact is something you are not aware of.

Anonymous wrote:The Confederate flag now represents the undereducated with few teeth.

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Anonymous wrote:People are, of course, free to debate whether the Confederate flag represents racism. However, it is indisputable that the Confederacy was, for its entire existence, an enemy of the United States of America. Therefore, flying its flag is akin to flying a Nazi flag or the flag of another entity that was always an enemy of the U.S.

Do you know of any articles that might explain this for in depth?

Pretty much any high school history book should do.

Doesn't that tell you something about the state of education today in the public schools?

Filtered history isn't history.

If the history book you are reading tells you that it was about states rights and stops there, than that is filtered history. The fact is that to was about the right to practice slavery, and in fact a lot of it came to blows in Congress about not just keeping slavery intact in the south, but expanding it westward into the territories as they gained statehood, and that particular aspect of it is what led to a lot of the run up to the civil war. Also, if you actually take the time to critically read and compare the CSA Constitution and compare it with the US Constitution you will find that the CSA Constitution affords states less freedoms and asserts more CSA federal control, which runs contrary to the fictions that are spun today.

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Anonymous wrote:People are, of course, free to debate whether the Confederate flag represents racism. However, it is indisputable that the Confederacy was, for its entire existence, an enemy of the United States of America. Therefore, flying its flag is akin to flying a Nazi flag or the flag of another entity that was always an enemy of the U.S.

Do you know of any articles that might explain this for in depth?

Pretty much any high school history book should do.

Doesn't that tell you something about the state of education today in the public schools?

Filtered history isn't history.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a proud descendant of confederate veterans. My father proudly displayed our confederate battle flag in Vietnam. The confederate flag fills me with pride in my region. I don't care what you have to say otherwise.

I'm a proud descendant of Scotland, and I'm happy to wear my family tartan, but I don't fly the Scottish flag at my house.

Many people do. You must be disappointed that not everybody is like you

I don't see the flag as racist. It's a flag for crying out loud. It represents the region that is culturally different from other regions withing the country. Nobody flips out when they see state flags.

I can sort of excuse black people's perspective on this. On the other hand, everything is racist for the black folks nowadays; sane people just shrug at the claim.

I do see the Confederate Flag as racist and so does every skin head in the country. It is also a Losers flag which actually makes me embarrassed for the people who display it. You lost the war that you started and yet you fly the flag to remind everyone that you are a loser?

So why legitimize a hate group that took on a symbol as their own by adopting their interpretation? It's original meaning was to represent states' rights. But I'm sure you are aware of this, no?

Nonsense. The svastika had many different meanings in many different religions before the Nazi's took it as their symbol. It is NOW a representation of hatred and murder. The original meaning makes no difference. Same with the confederate flag.

And it is terrifying to think this fact is something you are not aware of.