Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:13     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
I think people on the Hill are grumpy because we have a critical mass of middle class/upper class families living here and could have great schools. But the way the system is structured prevents that from happening.

All Hill elementary schools (Watkins, Brent, Maury, LT, etc) should feed into one middle school. It's idiotic that this hasn't been done.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:10     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
The last 2 PPs is one troll. No kids, not a Hill resident; just a troll.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:08     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They wouldn't "demand" anything. Their kids would have to TEST IN.


If you think that people on the Hill wouldn't figure out a way to retake tests, have special accommodations, have a different test given to their special snowflake, etc., I want what you're smoking.


So is this also the situation with the test in middle school opening in ward 7??? Or are "those people" somehow different from "these people". Hypocrite.


Has it opened yet? If not, we don't yet know. I'd bet once it's opened, it will also be gamed. Why wouldn't it be?
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:07     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They wouldn't "demand" anything. Their kids would have to TEST IN.


If you think that people on the Hill wouldn't figure out a way to retake tests, have special accommodations, have a different test given to their special snowflake, etc., I want what you're smoking.


Take off the tinfoil hat, pp. I have seen many non-Hill, heck, non-DC residents work the system to their benefit at the expense of DC taxpayers. However, a test is a test.


Until, of course, it isn't one. As in, there's a test, but there are enough ways to game it so that it becomes meaningless for all but those who don't have the right connections. This is actually one of the reasons I like the lottery system in DC. If I wanted games, I'd move to Fairfax.


The rest of us might very well move there because we value education.


Please do. No one is stopping you.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 12:49     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They wouldn't "demand" anything. Their kids would have to TEST IN.


If you think that people on the Hill wouldn't figure out a way to retake tests, have special accommodations, have a different test given to their special snowflake, etc., I want what you're smoking.


So is this also the situation with the test in middle school opening in ward 7??? Or are "those people" somehow different from "these people". Hypocrite.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:55     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They wouldn't "demand" anything. Their kids would have to TEST IN.


If you think that people on the Hill wouldn't figure out a way to retake tests, have special accommodations, have a different test given to their special snowflake, etc., I want what you're smoking.


Take off the tinfoil hat, pp. I have seen many non-Hill, heck, non-DC residents work the system to their benefit at the expense of DC taxpayers. However, a test is a test.


Until, of course, it isn't one. As in, there's a test, but there are enough ways to game it so that it becomes meaningless for all but those who don't have the right connections. This is actually one of the reasons I like the lottery system in DC. If I wanted games, I'd move to Fairfax.


The rest of us might very well move there because we value education.


. . .waving bye-bye to Bowser and Allen and Kaya and all the other people playing politics with our children.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:54     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
This area is starting to fall now that real estate in DC is not that hot anymore.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:50     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They wouldn't "demand" anything. Their kids would have to TEST IN.


If you think that people on the Hill wouldn't figure out a way to retake tests, have special accommodations, have a different test given to their special snowflake, etc., I want what you're smoking.


Take off the tinfoil hat, pp. I have seen many non-Hill, heck, non-DC residents work the system to their benefit at the expense of DC taxpayers. However, a test is a test.


Until, of course, it isn't one. As in, there's a test, but there are enough ways to game it so that it becomes meaningless for all but those who don't have the right connections. This is actually one of the reasons I like the lottery system in DC. If I wanted games, I'd move to Fairfax.


The rest of us might very well move there because we value education.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:48     Subject: Re:Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Center Leg Freeway project (no pun intended). SW Waterfront TIF. All the other TIFs all over the city. West End Library. Call Jack Evans' office, they can tell you.


A TIF means the developers are contributing to fund something. It is NOT a subsidy to developers. Similarly Center Leg Freeway will reconnect DC streets, and create park space, by allowing a developer to get new land. No cash subsidy to the developer, that I am aware of.

PP posited subsidy to developers vs $ for hill schools. That implies to me actual cash to developers, in exchange for them building something. A few years back DC gave money for a supermarket in SW, I think and there is the long sage of Skyland in SE. But AFAICT there is nothing like that in recent years west of the Anacostia.


Giving taxes in a TIF over a base benchmark for decades to a developer isn't a giveaway? - DC's lenders think so. Tying down the assessed value of a property for years isn't a subdidy to a developer? We live in the 21st century - we don't do actual cah payments anymore. Let me know when you see your epiphany.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:34     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They wouldn't "demand" anything. Their kids would have to TEST IN.


If you think that people on the Hill wouldn't figure out a way to retake tests, have special accommodations, have a different test given to their special snowflake, etc., I want what you're smoking.


Take off the tinfoil hat, pp. I have seen many non-Hill, heck, non-DC residents work the system to their benefit at the expense of DC taxpayers. However, a test is a test.


Until, of course, it isn't one. As in, there's a test, but there are enough ways to game it so that it becomes meaningless for all but those who don't have the right connections. This is actually one of the reasons I like the lottery system in DC. If I wanted games, I'd move to Fairfax.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:32     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:The faster the Cluster goes away, the faster other Hill and Hill orbiting schools will improve.


??? I always see these types of posts from posters who denigrate Watkins and would never send their kids there.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:31     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They wouldn't "demand" anything. Their kids would have to TEST IN.


If you think that people on the Hill wouldn't figure out a way to retake tests, have special accommodations, have a different test given to their special snowflake, etc., I want what you're smoking.


Take off the tinfoil hat, pp. I have seen many non-Hill, heck, non-DC residents work the system to their benefit at the expense of DC taxpayers. However, a test is a test.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:30     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can we all please agree to stop calling it the Cluster, now that SH has only a passing acquaintance with Watkins and Peabody? They've undone the principal situation and many other schools feed to SH. Stop pretending that the kids at Peabody are going to be in school only with their peers by middle school.


What are you smoking? Passing acquaintance? Peabody feeds to Watkins, which feeds to SH. The three share a PTA and fundraising, including the Capitol Hill Classic and Renovator's Tour, not to mention a website (http://www.capitolhillclusterschool.org/) that describes the Cluster as one school with three campuses. So, I'll stop referring to Peabody/Watkins/SH as the Cluster when Peabody/Watkins/SH stops referring to itself as the Cluster. I also find it confounding that PP seems to think there are scores of OOB seats open to kids from Brent and other non-feeders. WTF?


The Cluster was put in place to have a straight feed from Peabody to Watkins to SH. Now, multiple schools feed to SH and there will be different principals for Peabody/Watkins and SH. Will there continue to be one website and one PTA? Why? Does Deal co-brand with one specific JKLMM elementary?

Not the PP with the delusion of Brent or any other non-feeder students enrolling OOB in droves, btw.


Don't know, but that is certainly the way it is right now.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:30     Subject: Re:Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
Anonymous wrote:Center Leg Freeway project (no pun intended). SW Waterfront TIF. All the other TIFs all over the city. West End Library. Call Jack Evans' office, they can tell you.


A TIF means the developers are contributing to fund something. It is NOT a subsidy to developers. Similarly Center Leg Freeway will reconnect DC streets, and create park space, by allowing a developer to get new land. No cash subsidy to the developer, that I am aware of.

PP posited subsidy to developers vs $ for hill schools. That implies to me actual cash to developers, in exchange for them building something. A few years back DC gave money for a supermarket in SW, I think and there is the long sage of Skyland in SE. But AFAICT there is nothing like that in recent years west of the Anacostia.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 11:30     Subject: Why does every thread about Hill schools get so grumpy?
The faster the Cluster goes away, the faster other Hill and Hill orbiting schools will improve.