Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 14:12     Subject: Wilson principal search
No matter how many Ward 3 students attend - Wilson is considered an urban school becuse of the issues that a fair amount of the students face. My DD reminds of this all the time.

If she's interested in closing the acheivement gap - which I am all for - she will have her work cut out for her. For a complete view of this gap at Wilson, take a look at a school article on the gap around AP classes.

http://thewilsonbeacon.com/close-the-gap/
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 14:04     Subject: Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I get that she likes to focus on urban schools and the gap but what has she done in either of those areas? Painsville is at most a small distant suburb of Cleveland-- not urban. Don't get me started on Aspen.

This makes no sense.


The OH school was nearly all low income.


But not urban.


What difference does that make? Aren't poverty-based challenges in education more of less the same, no matter whether rural, suburban or urban?


Actually that isn't true at all. Poor populations have different issues based on their location. An urban child has a completely different life experience than one in Appalachia or in the suburbs of Detroit. For example do you think kids in Ward 8 who are FARMS are the same as those FARMS in Fairfax?
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:58     Subject: Wilson principal search
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is now posted on the Wilson High School website.

http://www.wilsonhs.org/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=358769&id=0


link does not work


and couldn't find anything about a new principal on the wilson site.


DCPS is researching what to call a someone who has not completed her Ph.D.


LOL. We generally call them Ms. or Mr. but leave it to DCPS to "study" that issue.
jsteele
Post 06/02/2015 13:55     Subject: Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is now posted on the Wilson High School website.

http://www.wilsonhs.org/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=358769&id=0


link does not work


and couldn't find anything about a new principal on the wilson site.


DCPS is researching what to call a someone who has not completed her Ph.D.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:53     Subject: Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is now posted on the Wilson High School website.

http://www.wilsonhs.org/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=358769&id=0


link does not work


and couldn't find anything about a new principal on the wilson site.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:52     Subject: Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:It is now posted on the Wilson High School website.

http://www.wilsonhs.org/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=358769&id=0


link does not work
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:45     Subject: Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I get that she likes to focus on urban schools and the gap but what has she done in either of those areas? Painsville is at most a small distant suburb of Cleveland-- not urban. Don't get me started on Aspen.

This makes no sense.


The OH school was nearly all low income.


But not urban.


What difference does that make? Aren't poverty-based challenges in education more of less the same, no matter whether rural, suburban or urban?
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:29     Subject: Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I get that she likes to focus on urban schools and the gap but what has she done in either of those areas? Painsville is at most a small distant suburb of Cleveland-- not urban. Don't get me started on Aspen.

This makes no sense.


The OH school was nearly all low income.


But not urban.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 13:00     Subject: Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:I get that she likes to focus on urban schools and the gap but what has she done in either of those areas? Painsville is at most a small distant suburb of Cleveland-- not urban. Don't get me started on Aspen.

This makes no sense.


The OH school was nearly all low income.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 12:58     Subject: Wilson principal search
Wilson maybe somewhere in the middle of her previous and current positions.

Principals are only on one year contracts, so lets see how this goes.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 12:54     Subject: Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the June 1 letter says: "Dr. Martin has a bachelor’s degree in English and history from Case Western
Reserve University, a master’s degree in education from John Carroll University, and a doctorate in
urban education from Cleveland State University. "

so, DCPS is not just using Dr., is actually saying that she has a doctorate degree when it appears that she does not have it (and is does not seem she is lying about it, as other posters have pointed out she expressly said that she need to finish her thesis).


I wonder if DCPS thought she had a doctorate during the interview process? How about the committee of 20? Did they think she had a doctorate? Frankly, I don't really care if she has a Ph.D or not. But, the confusion is baffling.


I agree, it is very strange. And the other thread puts this in her mouth:

“I love, love, love the students at Aspen High School, but my life’s work and passion has been around issues of closing achievement gaps and working with students who come from poverty,” Martin said...

How come she is becoming the principal of Wilson, not if Anacostia or Ballou?



Yes, I had the same thought. Not only is Wilson the least impoverished comprehensive high school in DC, I'd expect the boundary changes to decrease the number of poor students over time. I'd think she would be a better fit for Roosevelt or Coolidge (which also need principals).



+1. one of the articles cited by other posters say "Martin grew up in poverty and prior to coming to Aspen, worked in schools in tough neighborhoods. She’d like to return to such districts." I am not sure Tenleytown would qualify as a tough neighborhood, even comparing to Aspen.

Anyway, I think the community should welcome her at this point and let's see how she does.


Ordinarily, no! But if she wanders outside Wilson and over to the chaos in the Metro at school dismissal, she'll see plenty of examples of "tough neighborhood" behavior, most by some of her new charges.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 12:53     Subject: Wilson principal search
I get that she likes to focus on urban schools and the gap but what has she done in either of those areas? Painsville is at most a small distant suburb of Cleveland-- not urban. Don't get me started on Aspen.

This makes no sense.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 12:45     Subject: Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the June 1 letter says: "Dr. Martin has a bachelor’s degree in English and history from Case Western
Reserve University, a master’s degree in education from John Carroll University, and a doctorate in
urban education from Cleveland State University. "

so, DCPS is not just using Dr., is actually saying that she has a doctorate degree when it appears that she does not have it (and is does not seem she is lying about it, as other posters have pointed out she expressly said that she need to finish her thesis).


I wonder if DCPS thought she had a doctorate during the interview process? How about the committee of 20? Did they think she had a doctorate? Frankly, I don't really care if she has a Ph.D or not. But, the confusion is baffling.


I agree, it is very strange. And the other thread puts this in her mouth:

“I love, love, love the students at Aspen High School, but my life’s work and passion has been around issues of closing achievement gaps and working with students who come from poverty,” Martin said...

How come she is becoming the principal of Wilson, not if Anacostia or Ballou?



Yes, I had the same thought. Not only is Wilson the least impoverished comprehensive high school in DC, I'd expect the boundary changes to decrease the number of poor students over time. I'd think she would be a better fit for Roosevelt or Coolidge (which also need principals).



+1. one of the articles cited by other posters say "Martin grew up in poverty and prior to coming to Aspen, worked in schools in tough neighborhoods. She’d like to return to such districts." I am not sure Tenleytown would qualify as a tough neighborhood, even comparing to Aspen.

Anyway, I think the community should welcome her at this point and let's see how she does.


Even if 100% of Wilson's students came from Tenleytown, it would be a lot different than Aspen, CO. Of course we know Wilson's IB% is actually 57%
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 12:41     Subject: Re:Wilson principal search
Anonymous wrote:Article from when she was hired in Aspen: http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20120516/NEWS/120519896

I think this is a promising candidate.


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Martin, who holds a master's degree in education and is working toward her doctoral degree, comes to Aspen from Thomas W. Harvey High School in Painesville, Ohio, where she has served as principal for seven years.

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A three year old community newspaper article got the phrasing right.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2015 12:37     Subject: Wilson principal search
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the June 1 letter says: "Dr. Martin has a bachelor’s degree in English and history from Case Western
Reserve University, a master’s degree in education from John Carroll University, and a doctorate in
urban education from Cleveland State University. "

so, DCPS is not just using Dr., is actually saying that she has a doctorate degree when it appears that she does not have it (and is does not seem she is lying about it, as other posters have pointed out she expressly said that she need to finish her thesis).


I wonder if DCPS thought she had a doctorate during the interview process? How about the committee of 20? Did they think she had a doctorate? Frankly, I don't really care if she has a Ph.D or not. But, the confusion is baffling.


I agree, it is very strange. And the other thread puts this in her mouth:

“I love, love, love the students at Aspen High School, but my life’s work and passion has been around issues of closing achievement gaps and working with students who come from poverty,” Martin said...

How come she is becoming the principal of Wilson, not if Anacostia or Ballou?



Yes, I had the same thought. Not only is Wilson the least impoverished comprehensive high school in DC, I'd expect the boundary changes to decrease the number of poor students over time. I'd think she would be a better fit for Roosevelt or Coolidge (which also need principals).



+1. one of the articles cited by other posters say "Martin grew up in poverty and prior to coming to Aspen, worked in schools in tough neighborhoods. She’d like to return to such districts." I am not sure Tenleytown would qualify as a tough neighborhood, even comparing to Aspen.

Anyway, I think the community should welcome her at this point and let's see how she does.