Anonymous
Post 06/25/2017 19:04     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look OP. There's one poster on here who had a terrible childbirth injury and she's very bitter about it. Instead of seeking therapy, she likes to scare expectant mothers. Speak with your doctor about what's the best choice for your particular circumstances.


WOW. I know you think you are some kind of warrior for natural birth but you are tremendously ignorant. Birth injury is very real and very common. You ought to be able to tolerate hearing this. It does not mean everyone has to have c sections.

NP. No, there really is a woman who posts on here who suffered one of the rarest and most severe vaginal injuries and she posts (posted? Since I had my baby I'm not on here as much) vituperative posts. Yes, birth injuries from vaginal birth are very real - most of us tear to some degree - but she is just relentless and frequently only tangentially related to the topic. I can't even remember what her point was, just that I feel genuine pity for her.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2017 14:45     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My sister regretted her vbac. Her baby was large and late and she tore pretty badly. She had to get the tear corrected a bit a week PP. Since her VBAC also now pees a little when she jogs or sneezes, so it weakened her pelvic floor too in a way that the pregnancies and c section hadn't. For her third, she opted for a c section and has no regrets.


How is your sister post the third child? Did her pelvic floor weakness improve?


I will ask her, she's only a few months out. I'd be surprised if it improves since she did have a full term third pregnancy, but I hope it's not worse. I also think my family might not have great pelvic floors. My mom had 3 vaginal births and a few decades later had a terrible prolapse that required two surgeries to correct. I've had only c-sections and don't have any pelvic floor issues (so far) but I still have some pain and numbness around my scar almost two years out.

Bottom line, I think, is that there's no good way to get a baby out. Hopefully someone will invent one someday.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2017 14:08     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
I had an emergency c-section for the 1st kid. 2nd kid I was advised that a c-section would be best and so I did that. I regret that I did not try for VBAC for the 2nd. I'm done having kids, but I do feel "robbed" of the birthing experience.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2017 14:02     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
I know someone who's baby died during a vbac. I don't know exactly what happened though.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2017 08:16     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does your doctor think about your candidacy for a vbac? Also, have you seen this? https://mfmu.bsc.gwu.edu/PublicBSC/MFMU/VGBirthCalc/vagbirth.html



This calculator is not evidence based . The idea that doctors still use it to make recommendations is laughable


I don't think you know what "evidence based" means.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2017 06:56     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Anonymous wrote:What does your doctor think about your candidacy for a vbac? Also, have you seen this? https://mfmu.bsc.gwu.edu/PublicBSC/MFMU/VGBirthCalc/vagbirth.html



This calculator is not evidence based . The idea that doctors still use it to make recommendations is laughable
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2017 03:47     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Anonymous wrote:Well, I almost bled to death after my second c-section, which carries a much higher risk of hemorrhage than vaginal delivery. And I still have incontinence issues (thanks pregnancy). Plus a gross stomach (c-section shelf) after two c-sections. So I would choose VBAC all the way, and wish I had been a candidate (second baby was breech).


+1 to this
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2017 23:44     Subject: Re:Anyone regret their Vbac?
I had vag. births prior to my unplanned nonemergency C section. My recovery from the C section was relatively easy. I still prefer vaginal birth and vaginal birth recovery over C section, but I am grateful for C section and saving my baby.
When I had my next baby, I had a VBAC, and do not regret it.
Good luck to you whatever you choose, and hope your pregnancy results in healthy baby and mama.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2017 20:35     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Anonymous wrote:Look OP. There's one poster on here who had a terrible childbirth injury and she's very bitter about it. Instead of seeking therapy, she likes to scare expectant mothers. Speak with your doctor about what's the best choice for your particular circumstances.


WOW. I know you think you are some kind of warrior for natural birth but you are tremendously ignorant. Birth injury is very real and very common. You ought to be able to tolerate hearing this. It does not mean everyone has to have c sections.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2017 19:42     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Well, I almost bled to death after my second c-section, which carries a much higher risk of hemorrhage than vaginal delivery. And I still have incontinence issues (thanks pregnancy). Plus a gross stomach (c-section shelf) after two c-sections. So I would choose VBAC all the way, and wish I had been a candidate (second baby was breech).
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2017 19:12     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You'd regret it if you ruptured or had a horrible shoulder dystocia or were ripped from stem to stern with forceps.

Unfortunately, you can't know any of this in advance. How badly do you want vaginal birth?

I'd never attempt a VBAC without an OB and continuous fetal monitoring in an excellent hospital with a NICU.



What an odd post. Would you regret it if you had a c/s and knicked an artery and you bled to death? Or you got a blood clot after surgery that ended up with a pulmonary embolism? It doesn't make sense to make the decision based on highly unlikely catastrophic scenarios. Look at the overall likelihood of adverse effects, your own individual situation, and your own comfort with the most likely scenarios.


What idiot doctor would knick an artery in a scheduled C? I've never heard of that happening. I did bust an artery with my VBAC -- baby's head damaged the artery so much it swelled and burst. I do recommend it as a way to die though...massive blood loss is very peaceful. (The swelling was awfully painful, but once the artery burst and I was bleeding to death...totally felt better.) Obviously C-sections have risks, but my impressions is that surgical error is not a big problem in scheduled C's (as opposed to things like infection). I posted before and said whatever you do -- just make sure they can give you a transfusion! Blood transfusions and antibiotics are basically the two miracles of modern medicine that can cure almost everything if you get them fast enough.


But c-sections have a much higher risk of postpartum hemorrhage...

Signed,
A fellow severe pph survivor, who did not find bleeding to death peaceful AT ALL.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2017 18:26     Subject: Re:Anyone regret their Vbac?
I'm a NP. I had a vaginal delivery with my first DC. I had a third degree tear and severe postpartum hemorrhage- I had to have several interventions to stop the bleeding and it was really scary. My recovery was difficult, I was extremely sore and in pain.

I had a scheduled C for my second (breech baby) and recovery was so much easier.

I honestly don't know what I would do for a third baby- my doctor said I'm an excellent candidate for VBAC but I feel like there is so much unknown with a vaginal delivery. A c-section feels more straightforward.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2017 17:56     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Look OP. There's one poster on here who had a terrible childbirth injury and she's very bitter about it. Instead of seeking therapy, she likes to scare expectant mothers. Speak with your doctor about what's the best choice for your particular circumstances.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2017 17:42     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You'd regret it if you ruptured or had a horrible shoulder dystocia or were ripped from stem to stern with forceps.

Unfortunately, you can't know any of this in advance. How badly do you want vaginal birth?

I'd never attempt a VBAC without an OB and continuous fetal monitoring in an excellent hospital with a NICU.



What an odd post. Would you regret it if you had a c/s and knicked an artery and you bled to death? Or you got a blood clot after surgery that ended up with a pulmonary embolism? It doesn't make sense to make the decision based on highly unlikely catastrophic scenarios. Look at the overall likelihood of adverse effects, your own individual situation, and your own comfort with the most likely scenarios.


What idiot doctor would knick an artery in a scheduled C? I've never heard of that happening. I did bust an artery with my VBAC -- baby's head damaged the artery so much it swelled and burst. I do recommend it as a way to die though...massive blood loss is very peaceful. (The swelling was awfully painful, but once the artery burst and I was bleeding to death...totally felt better.) Obviously C-sections have risks, but my impressions is that surgical error is not a big problem in scheduled C's (as opposed to things like infection). I posted before and said whatever you do -- just make sure they can give you a transfusion! Blood transfusions and antibiotics are basically the two miracles of modern medicine that can cure almost everything if you get them fast enough.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2017 16:54     Subject: Anyone regret their Vbac?
Anonymous wrote:Oh for god's sake. Not this again.


Not what? Discussion of childbirth injuries?