Anonymous
Post 04/15/2015 00:18     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
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Best of luck to you. I admire vegans honestly. B.c regular vegetarians are kinda fooling themselves...what do they think happens to the male laying chickens or the male dairy calves?


Not everyone is vegetarian for ethical reasons, you know.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2015 00:14     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
Breastmilk is in keeping with OP's belief system.

That said, I would seriously consider fish for your child.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 23:47     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
Breast milk is a bodily fluid. Not cows milk. It's "vegan" in the sense that ones own blood is probably okay right?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 23:15     Subject: Re:pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
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Anonymous wrote:Is breastmilk vegan?


No. Breastmilk is NOT vegan and it has nothing to do with what the mother eats! Humans are mammals and breast milk is the milk from a mammal. That makes it absolutely NOT vegan.


Exactly otherwise cow, sheep and goat milk would be considered vegan.

Back to the topic, OP, please don't do this to your baby.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 13:08     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
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Anonymous wrote:Vegan mother here that has successful EBF two children. Your child can be vegan and also breastfeed. It's compatible. You all are ridiculous.





Your children AREN'T vegan if they breastfeed.


Just go away. Human boobs are made to feed their children. They are not "animal products" meaning animals that cannot consent to the use of their bodies for your food. I guess under your logic if a kid picks his nose and eats a booger he's not vegan because he's eating an "animal product." Stop being stupid.


Ok, I'm borderline lactivist and wish more people would breastfeed, so I'm not discouraging the OP. But breastmilk is an ANIMAL PRODUCT. LOL.


Yes, but what is the point of bringing it up in this discussion? Just to engage in facile word play? Are you saying we need a new classifications for vegans who drink breastmilk?

If we take this to its natural conclusion, all breastfeeding babies are not only not vegan, they are cannibals!


+100. Seriously, people, the vegan understanding of "animal product" has actual principles behind it (that breastfeeding does not implicate) and you'd have to mind-numbingly literal not to understand that. I worry for the critical thinking skills of some of these PPs' children.


Seriously. I am not all that supportive of raising a vegan infant but even I can comprehend the fact that human milk is perfectly suitable for the vegan diet as there's no cruelty (well, I guess that depends on the mom you ask haha) and the person is consenting to it. These people understand as well but are just trying to keep stirring the pot.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 13:05     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
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Anonymous wrote:My son was vegan for the first 2 years of his life. He was allergic to dairy and eggs, and we are vegetarian, so no meat.

He did very well. He was breastfed (which mean vegan for me--how I missed my cheese!), and when he started solids, he was not picky at all. Avocado, beans, oatmeal. Calcium fortified foods. Everything covered in olive oil, and coconut milk as a drink--tons of fat in there. He did great.

By 2, the allergy to dairy passed, though he is still sensitive to eggs, so we added dairy in. But he was fine without it.

My point is children, babies especially, can be vegan and absolutely thrive, in spite of the strange straw man above trying to insist breastmilk isn't vegan. What is the point there, anyway?

What did you do about vitamin B for your child?


He ate lots of sweet potato baked fries, bananas, nutritional yeast on pasta. I didn't worry about it that much.

I would. The handful of people I know who went vegan, all had to quit after a few months to a year because their health went downhill.


OH MY GOD! Please just stop. I've been vegan for 9 years and vegetarian for almost 21. I am healthier than most people I know. I am fit and strong as are most vegans I know.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 13:04     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
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Anonymous wrote:My son was vegan for the first 2 years of his life. He was allergic to dairy and eggs, and we are vegetarian, so no meat.

He did very well. He was breastfed (which mean vegan for me--how I missed my cheese!), and when he started solids, he was not picky at all. Avocado, beans, oatmeal. Calcium fortified foods. Everything covered in olive oil, and coconut milk as a drink--tons of fat in there. He did great.

By 2, the allergy to dairy passed, though he is still sensitive to eggs, so we added dairy in. But he was fine without it.

My point is children, babies especially, can be vegan and absolutely thrive, in spite of the strange straw man above trying to insist breastmilk isn't vegan. What is the point there, anyway?

What did you do about vitamin B for your child?


He ate lots of sweet potato baked fries, bananas, nutritional yeast on pasta. I didn't worry about it that much.

I would. The handful of people I know who went vegan, all had to quit after a few months to a year because their health went downhill.


Which is not my problem; it is theirs for not knowing how to do it well. I was vegan because of my kid's allergies and being vegetarian and my son was vegan because of the same. ANd we both were absolutely healthy and ate a varied diet. It was ease and preference for a life with cheese that I did not stay vegan, and pretty much the same for the kid.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 12:59     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
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Anonymous wrote:My son was vegan for the first 2 years of his life. He was allergic to dairy and eggs, and we are vegetarian, so no meat.

He did very well. He was breastfed (which mean vegan for me--how I missed my cheese!), and when he started solids, he was not picky at all. Avocado, beans, oatmeal. Calcium fortified foods. Everything covered in olive oil, and coconut milk as a drink--tons of fat in there. He did great.

By 2, the allergy to dairy passed, though he is still sensitive to eggs, so we added dairy in. But he was fine without it.

My point is children, babies especially, can be vegan and absolutely thrive, in spite of the strange straw man above trying to insist breastmilk isn't vegan. What is the point there, anyway?

What did you do about vitamin B for your child?


He ate lots of sweet potato baked fries, bananas, nutritional yeast on pasta. I didn't worry about it that much.

I would. The handful of people I know who went vegan, all had to quit after a few months to a year because their health went downhill.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 12:44     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
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Anonymous wrote:Vegan mother here that has successful EBF two children. Your child can be vegan and also breastfeed. It's compatible. You all are ridiculous.





Your children AREN'T vegan if they breastfeed.


Just go away. Human boobs are made to feed their children. They are not "animal products" meaning animals that cannot consent to the use of their bodies for your food. I guess under your logic if a kid picks his nose and eats a booger he's not vegan because he's eating an "animal product." Stop being stupid.


Ok, I'm borderline lactivist and wish more people would breastfeed, so I'm not discouraging the OP. But breastmilk is an ANIMAL PRODUCT. LOL.


Please tell me you are trolling and aren't that dense. If you are serious then I would lIke to know where you went to college...so I don't send my kids there. I want them to learn ethics, philosophy and critical thinking.

So please consider the ethics of veganism vs BFing. An adult human woman consents to feed her baby a product from her body. A dairy cow does not consent, and therefore is forced to. In the same way we don't enslave newly delivered women and attach a breast pump to them for other people's babies. But if they volunteer to donate....then great.

But again, human adults can consent. If you don't get that...I have no hope for you. I once again hope you are trolling.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 12:40     Subject: Re:pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
^^ have to be
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 12:39     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vegan mother here that has successful EBF two children. Your child can be vegan and also breastfeed. It's compatible. You all are ridiculous.





Your children AREN'T vegan if they breastfeed.


Just go away. Human boobs are made to feed their children. They are not "animal products" meaning animals that cannot consent to the use of their bodies for your food. I guess under your logic if a kid picks his nose and eats a booger he's not vegan because he's eating an "animal product." Stop being stupid.


Ok, I'm borderline lactivist and wish more people would breastfeed, so I'm not discouraging the OP. But breastmilk is an ANIMAL PRODUCT. LOL.


Yes, but what is the point of bringing it up in this discussion? Just to engage in facile word play? Are you saying we need a new classifications for vegans who drink breastmilk?

If we take this to its natural conclusion, all breastfeeding babies are not only not vegan, they are cannibals!


+100. Seriously, people, the vegan understanding of "animal product" has actual principles behind it (that breastfeeding does not implicate) and you'd have to mind-numbingly literal not to understand that. I worry for the critical thinking skills of some of these PPs' children.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 12:37     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
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Anonymous wrote:Vegan mother here that has successful EBF two children. Your child can be vegan and also breastfeed. It's compatible. You all are ridiculous.





Your children AREN'T vegan if they breastfeed.


Just go away. Human boobs are made to feed their children. They are not "animal products" meaning animals that cannot consent to the use of their bodies for your food. I guess under your logic if a kid picks his nose and eats a booger he's not vegan because he's eating an "animal product." Stop being stupid.


Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 12:32     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vegan mother here that has successful EBF two children. Your child can be vegan and also breastfeed. It's compatible. You all are ridiculous.





Your children AREN'T vegan if they breastfeed.


Just go away. Human boobs are made to feed their children. They are not "animal products" meaning animals that cannot consent to the use of their bodies for your food. I guess under your logic if a kid picks his nose and eats a booger he's not vegan because he's eating an "animal product." Stop being stupid.


Ok, I'm borderline lactivist and wish more people would breastfeed, so I'm not discouraging the OP. But breastmilk is an ANIMAL PRODUCT. LOL.


Yes, but what is the point of bringing it up in this discussion? Just to engage in facile word play? Are you saying we need a new classifications for vegans who drink breastmilk?

If we take this to its natural conclusion, all breastfeeding babies are not only not vegan, they are cannibals!
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 12:28     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
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What did you do about vitamin B for your child?


He ate lots of sweet potato baked fries, bananas, nutritional yeast on pasta. I didn't worry about it that much.


There is no Vitamin B12 in sweet potatoes or bananas. There also isn't any Vitamin B12 in nutritional yeast or pasta, unless they're fortified.


I apologize; I read the question as B6. We supplemented with a B12 on occasion, and ate fortified foods for all the B Complex. Again, I wasn't too concerned with anything but B12, but there is certainly some research out there that shows B12 from meat isn't as great as fortified foods, because cooking alters it.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 12:26     Subject: pediatrician who has experience with vegan babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vegan mother here that has successful EBF two children. Your child can be vegan and also breastfeed. It's compatible. You all are ridiculous.





Your children AREN'T vegan if they breastfeed.


Just go away. Human boobs are made to feed their children. They are not "animal products" meaning animals that cannot consent to the use of their bodies for your food. I guess under your logic if a kid picks his nose and eats a booger he's not vegan because he's eating an "animal product." Stop being stupid.


Ok, I'm borderline lactivist and wish more people would breastfeed, so I'm not discouraging the OP. But breastmilk is an ANIMAL PRODUCT. LOL.