Anonymous
04/14/2015 21:37
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amazing. It really surprises me how most people in this country look down on foreigners.
Huh? Can you point us to another country that welcomes so many foreigners and provides them so quickly with access to their most elite institutions? Apart from perhaps Canada and Australia, I can't think of any.
Name other countries that allows major corporations to hire guest workers and let their college graduates go unemployed.
Most of DCUM is oblivious to what has happened to the IT industry in major corporations because of the H1B laws implemented for the benefit of Microsoft, Oracle and Facebook.
But most of DCUM is also oblivious to the damage done to blue collar workers with the vast immigration of physical labor over past 20 years.
Somehow supply / demand laws apply to nanny's and babysitters but cease to exist when it comes to IT workers and Factory workers. Screw the poor factory workers. They are only my neighbors nothing more, they don't deserve a living wage, increase the number of H1Bs, keep the labor cheap!
You may be on to something here. You just have to make sure that you do not vote for Republicans because they are in the pockets of big business. They are only interested in lining their own pockets and screwing the American labor force.
Anonymous
04/14/2015 21:23
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amazing. It really surprises me how most people in this country look down on foreigners.
Huh? Can you point us to another country that welcomes so many foreigners and provides them so quickly with access to their most elite institutions? Apart from perhaps Canada and Australia, I can't think of any.
Name other countries that allows major corporations to hire guest workers and let their college graduates go unemployed.
Most of DCUM is oblivious to what has happened to the IT industry in major corporations because of the H1B laws implemented for the benefit of Microsoft, Oracle and Facebook.
But most of DCUM is also oblivious to the damage done to blue collar workers with the vast immigration of physical labor over past 20 years.
Somehow supply / demand laws apply to nanny's and babysitters but cease to exist when it comes to IT workers and Factory workers. Screw the poor factory workers. They are only my neighbors nothing more, they don't deserve a living wage, increase the number of H1Bs, keep the labor cheap!
Anonymous
04/14/2015 21:14
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
BTW - she also made an app and has a non-profit. She is obviously not a slacker!
Anonymous
04/14/2015 21:14
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
BTW - she also made an app and has a non-profit. She is obviously not a slacker!
Anonymous
04/14/2015 13:46
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
My kid is in a magnet HS. It is quite normal for the students in the program to apply to multiple Ivies. Mainly because many of their equally brilliant classmates are vying for the same schools that the competition is intense for the few spots.
The fact is that MANY of TJ students applied to multiple Ivies. This explains her applications to 8 Ivies and 6 other prestigious schools.
I do not find her acceptance to the 8 Ivies amazing. I find her being a TJ student and getting into 8 Ivies amazing!
If she was in a no-name HS, and was the top student there, I would have said that she did not need to hedge her bets to this extent, however, for a TJ student, she did the sensible thing.
The fact is that MANY of TJ students applied to multiple Ivies. This explains her applications to 8 Ivies and 6 other prestigious schools.
I do not find her acceptance to the 8 Ivies amazing. I find her being a TJ student and getting into 8 Ivies amazing!
If she was in a no-name HS, and was the top student there, I would have said that she did not need to hedge her bets to this extent, however, for a TJ student, she did the sensible thing.
Anonymous
04/14/2015 13:38
Subject: Re:The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
According to DCUM, she is tacky because she got into all Ivies and other elite schools! 
The resentment is mainly because it is not easy to replicate her success formula. After all she was not legacy but got such stellar results on the strength of her achievements and her hard work.
So now the hate mongers are doing all this hand-wringing on this forum because their kids cannot replicate even a fraction of what she did.
Well, I for one am very proud that an Indian-American girl achieved this. Congratulations and great job!
The resentment is mainly because it is not easy to replicate her success formula. After all she was not legacy but got such stellar results on the strength of her achievements and her hard work.
So now the hate mongers are doing all this hand-wringing on this forum because their kids cannot replicate even a fraction of what she did.
Well, I for one am very proud that an Indian-American girl achieved this. Congratulations and great job!
Anonymous
04/14/2015 13:20
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the reason she applied for all ivies was that those schools put racial caps on Asians (which is a discrimination by itself). No one can be guaranteed anything no matter how good you are.
And yet these students went 8 for 8, including the Asian girl. Go figure.
Well that's not against my point. She is good AND lucky. She is lucky partially because she is a girl. Ivies prefer Asian girls than boys because one admission can fill in two stats:Asians and females.
Anonymous
04/14/2015 12:59
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Anonymous wrote:I think the reason she applied for all ivies was that those schools put racial caps on Asians (which is a discrimination by itself). No one can be guaranteed anything no matter how good you are.
And yet these students went 8 for 8, including the Asian girl. Go figure.
Anonymous
04/14/2015 12:55
Subject: Re:The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Applying to all 8 Iviies means that the parents aren't concerned about fit or major or experience or anything else, except the brand name. They're looking for whatever brand name they can get. It's social climbing and grasping and pushy. At least the kid has a choice, now. Good for her
LOL.
Both parents are engineers from Bangalore. This means that they were people of means before they came to this country. College admissions in India to elite engineering colleges is much more competitive than in the US. Their kid did not go to a private HS. She got into TJ on her merit and aced it there. Look at her records - 8 Ivies and 6 highly ranked universities wanted her, and she competed with thousands of brilliant applicants from around the world to get acceptances. Not in one, not in two but all 14 schools!
They have already arrived, already rich and already high on the social ladder. I am willing to bet that their education, economic status, HHI, kid's achievement is already much higher than the PP's.
She has more choices in her schooling than most of the world will ever have. And if her motivation was to show all of us how brilliant she is - well she has proved her point without saying a word.
Yes - good for her.
Haters gonna hate!
You're as trashy as they are.
IT is now trashy to apply to Ivy League colleges.
Anonymous
04/14/2015 12:30
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
I think the reason she applied for all ivies was that those schools put racial caps on Asians (which is a discrimination by itself). No one can be guaranteed anything no matter how good you are.
Anonymous
04/14/2015 12:24
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It makes sense for a kid to apply to MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, and Georgia Tech. Or Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, and Swarthmore. Or maybe Brown, Oberlin, and Reed. These groups of schools all have qualities that would attract similar students.
But the eight Ivies plus MIT and Stanford are not interchangeable. A kid for whom UPenn would be a good match would probably be very unhappy at Dartmouth and vice versa. I would tell my own child to figure out what he wanted in a school before sending out applications to any and all. What would happen if the child only got into the one Ivy that would not at all suit that child? Would the student just go to any Ivy just because it's an Ivy?
Really, who cares? In the end, the kid will only enroll at one school. Most kids will flourish at a wide range of schools.
The point is that applying to all shows a lack of research into what kind of school would be best for a particular child. What majors is a child interested in? Does the child like a big school or a small one? City, suburb, or rural area? I'd make sure my child thought about the answers to these and a lot of other questions before applying and not wait until the crunch is on in April to make a hurried decision before 1 May.
Some kids can make any school/geographic area work for them, depending on their maturity and personality, so "fit" isn't that big of a deal. Besides, we're talking about choosing between elite schools here -- not a bunch of random colleges that might indeed have serious resource problems in specific study areas.
This, plus there's something somewhat irrational about doing detailed research on tons of schools you might never get into, rather than seeing what your options are and then deciding.
I feel like underlying the comment about doing more research is a sentiment against being obsessed with getting into the most elite college possible. And it's fine to have that sentiment, but I don't think choosing a college on its eliteness is any less rational than choosing it based on the size of its undergrad population or how far of a drive it is to the nearest city.
+1. Fit is much more important for an average students with certain strength and some weaknesses. I cannot imagine these excellent students cannot hack it in any of the top schools.
You'd hope that prospective students, particularly bright ones, would pick schools based on something other than how "elite" they are and whether they could "hack" it there.
Applying to 14 schools when you obviously have great credentials is ostentatious and tacky.
"Ostentatious" displays are ones that are "designed to impress or attract notice." None of these children were applying to a large number of schools to impress you, so they can't be ostentatious, just like if you peep through someone's window and discover that they are wearing a huge gold chain in their own bedroom, they are not being ostentatious. If you're going to gawk at high school students on an anonymous board, don't accuse them of revealing too much about themselves.
Anonymous
04/14/2015 12:00
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Not at all, given the crap shoot nature of admissions these days (particularly to Ivies, etc.).
Anonymous
04/14/2015 11:49
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It makes sense for a kid to apply to MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, and Georgia Tech. Or Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, and Swarthmore. Or maybe Brown, Oberlin, and Reed. These groups of schools all have qualities that would attract similar students.
But the eight Ivies plus MIT and Stanford are not interchangeable. A kid for whom UPenn would be a good match would probably be very unhappy at Dartmouth and vice versa. I would tell my own child to figure out what he wanted in a school before sending out applications to any and all. What would happen if the child only got into the one Ivy that would not at all suit that child? Would the student just go to any Ivy just because it's an Ivy?
Really, who cares? In the end, the kid will only enroll at one school. Most kids will flourish at a wide range of schools.
The point is that applying to all shows a lack of research into what kind of school would be best for a particular child. What majors is a child interested in? Does the child like a big school or a small one? City, suburb, or rural area? I'd make sure my child thought about the answers to these and a lot of other questions before applying and not wait until the crunch is on in April to make a hurried decision before 1 May.
Some kids can make any school/geographic area work for them, depending on their maturity and personality, so "fit" isn't that big of a deal. Besides, we're talking about choosing between elite schools here -- not a bunch of random colleges that might indeed have serious resource problems in specific study areas.
This, plus there's something somewhat irrational about doing detailed research on tons of schools you might never get into, rather than seeing what your options are and then deciding.
I feel like underlying the comment about doing more research is a sentiment against being obsessed with getting into the most elite college possible. And it's fine to have that sentiment, but I don't think choosing a college on its eliteness is any less rational than choosing it based on the size of its undergrad population or how far of a drive it is to the nearest city.
+1. Fit is much more important for an average students with certain strength and some weaknesses. I cannot imagine these excellent students cannot hack it in any of the top schools.
You'd hope that prospective students, particularly bright ones, would pick schools based on something other than how "elite" they are and whether they could "hack" it there.
Applying to 14 schools when you obviously have great credentials is ostentatious and tacky.
Anonymous
04/14/2015 11:41
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It makes sense for a kid to apply to MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, and Georgia Tech. Or Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, and Swarthmore. Or maybe Brown, Oberlin, and Reed. These groups of schools all have qualities that would attract similar students.
But the eight Ivies plus MIT and Stanford are not interchangeable. A kid for whom UPenn would be a good match would probably be very unhappy at Dartmouth and vice versa. I would tell my own child to figure out what he wanted in a school before sending out applications to any and all. What would happen if the child only got into the one Ivy that would not at all suit that child? Would the student just go to any Ivy just because it's an Ivy?
Really, who cares? In the end, the kid will only enroll at one school. Most kids will flourish at a wide range of schools.
The point is that applying to all shows a lack of research into what kind of school would be best for a particular child. What majors is a child interested in? Does the child like a big school or a small one? City, suburb, or rural area? I'd make sure my child thought about the answers to these and a lot of other questions before applying and not wait until the crunch is on in April to make a hurried decision before 1 May.
Some kids can make any school/geographic area work for them, depending on their maturity and personality, so "fit" isn't that big of a deal. Besides, we're talking about choosing between elite schools here -- not a bunch of random colleges that might indeed have serious resource problems in specific study areas.
This, plus there's something somewhat irrational about doing detailed research on tons of schools you might never get into, rather than seeing what your options are and then deciding.
I feel like underlying the comment about doing more research is a sentiment against being obsessed with getting into the most elite college possible. And it's fine to have that sentiment, but I don't think choosing a college on its eliteness is any less rational than choosing it based on the size of its undergrad population or how far of a drive it is to the nearest city.
+1. Fit is much more important for an average students with certain strength and some weaknesses. I cannot imagine these excellent students cannot hack it in any of the top schools.
Anonymous
04/14/2015 11:32
Subject: The Students Who Got Into Eight Ivies Are All Children of Immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It makes sense for a kid to apply to MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, and Georgia Tech. Or Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, and Swarthmore. Or maybe Brown, Oberlin, and Reed. These groups of schools all have qualities that would attract similar students.
But the eight Ivies plus MIT and Stanford are not interchangeable. A kid for whom UPenn would be a good match would probably be very unhappy at Dartmouth and vice versa. I would tell my own child to figure out what he wanted in a school before sending out applications to any and all. What would happen if the child only got into the one Ivy that would not at all suit that child? Would the student just go to any Ivy just because it's an Ivy?
Really, who cares? In the end, the kid will only enroll at one school. Most kids will flourish at a wide range of schools.
The point is that applying to all shows a lack of research into what kind of school would be best for a particular child. What majors is a child interested in? Does the child like a big school or a small one? City, suburb, or rural area? I'd make sure my child thought about the answers to these and a lot of other questions before applying and not wait until the crunch is on in April to make a hurried decision before 1 May.
Some kids can make any school/geographic area work for them, depending on their maturity and personality, so "fit" isn't that big of a deal. Besides, we're talking about choosing between elite schools here -- not a bunch of random colleges that might indeed have serious resource problems in specific study areas.
This, plus there's something somewhat irrational about doing detailed research on tons of schools you might never get into, rather than seeing what your options are and then deciding.
I feel like underlying the comment about doing more research is a sentiment against being obsessed with getting into the most elite college possible. And it's fine to have that sentiment, but I don't think choosing a college on its eliteness is any less rational than choosing it based on the size of its undergrad population or how far of a drive it is to the nearest city.