Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 08:14     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
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There is a law. Google it... md case law. Guidelines are written for those that can't/won't understand the law.


Is there a law, or is there case law?


google it
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 08:12     Subject: Re:Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
The mom has a public Facebook page if you want to follow this:

https://www.facebook.com/author.danielle.meitiv

It's not actually against the law for these kids to be at a park unsupervised, is it?
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 08:10     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
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Anonymous wrote:Scenario: 6 yo falls off the monkey bars and breaks his arm. What will the 10 yo do?


Call for help, presumably. What do you think?


I was 11 when my 9 year old sister fell off the monkey bars and broke her leg. I called for help - a woman was running nearby and I asked her to help us. She called an ambulance, paramedics called police, police called parents, we all met at the hospital. No big deal. No one accused my parents of being negligent. It's disturbing that we've created a mentality that kids of this age can't be left alone for a moment in public places.


Of course, you were fortunate that a woman was running nearby. But, you know, you still disrupted that woman's day/routine and probably had to wait for her to appear, but had a parent or adult chaperone been with you things would have worked out differently. I mean, for starters -- an ambulance? REALLY? For a broken leg? Dramatic much? A parent would have driven you to the hospital.

That said, I have much less issue with 11 and 9 than I do with 10 and 6.


If I fell and broke my leg, and somebody stopped to help, I would similarly disrupt that person's day/routine. Therefore, I should always have an adult chaperone with me.

The idea seems to be here that children are not members of society on their own terms.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 08:07     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Mean while you know their are kids who really need help, but the police are too busy picking up kids walk the park. What a joke. People need to be fired.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 08:06     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Why would the police even pick up the Kids? I'd laugh at the person who called. You'd think they have more important issues to deal with.


You sound like a teenager caught for drinking.. "don't you have something more important to deal with"

Grow Up!
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 08:03     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Why would the police even pick up the Kids? I'd laugh at the person who called. You'd think they have more important issues to deal with.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 08:02     Subject: Re:Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:UGH! I hope I don't have to see those attention whores on tv.



+1
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 08:01     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Scenario: 6 yo falls off the monkey bars and breaks his arm. What will the 10 yo do?


Call for help, presumably. What do you think?


I was 11 when my 9 year old sister fell off the monkey bars and broke her leg. I called for help - a woman was running nearby and I asked her to help us. She called an ambulance, paramedics called police, police called parents, we all met at the hospital. No big deal. No one accused my parents of being negligent. It's disturbing that we've created a mentality that kids of this age can't be left alone for a moment in public places.


Of course, you were fortunate that a woman was running nearby. But, you know, you still disrupted that woman's day/routine and probably had to wait for her to appear, but had a parent or adult chaperone been with you things would have worked out differently. I mean, for starters -- an ambulance? REALLY? For a broken leg? Dramatic much? A parent would have driven you to the hospital.

That said, I have much less issue with 11 and 9 than I do with 10 and 6.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 08:00     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:

There is a law. Google it... md case law. Guidelines are written for those that can't/won't understand the law.


Is there a law, or is there case law?
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 07:59     Subject: Re:Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
UGH! I hope I don't have to see those attention whores on tv.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 07:59     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
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Anonymous wrote:6 is way too young to be without adult supervision.


Maybe for some kids, or even a lot of kids, but definitely not every kid.


No, for every kid. The end.


Six-year-olds used to be capable of being out without adult supervision. Six-year-olds in other countries to this day are capable of being out without adult supervision. Do middle-class people in the US just have particularly incompetent six-year-olds, these days?


When were six-year-olds commonly walking around without adult supervision? Be specific.


In the late 1960s and early 1970s (my experience and my partner's experience). Also in the late 1930s (my parents' experience). Is that specific enough?
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 07:58     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:6 is way too young to be without adult supervision.


Maybe for some kids, or even a lot of kids, but definitely not every kid.


No, for every kid. The end.


Six-year-olds used to be capable of being out without adult supervision. Six-year-olds in other countries to this day are capable of being out without adult supervision. Do middle-class people in the US just have particularly incompetent six-year-olds, these days?


Kids raise in environments like DC tend to be less competent because their parents are involved in every decision they make. Kids (like mine) who were raised in more rural environments are very different. It's not a US thing. It's a helicopter parent thing.


Until they have to drive in DC, then they are helpless.

Each environment renders a child helpless in one way or another, no 1 way is perfect. I am sure my kids will not know how to gather eggs and your kids won't be able to navigate the streets in a city.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 07:58     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:These parents are horrible. They obviously didn't learn their lesson but they will. They seem so lazy. Would it kill them to spend time with the kids? Selfish idiots.


Oh, have you met them? If not, how do you know?

Though I agree that they obviously did not learn their lesson -- the lesson being that, no matter how right the parents are, and how much the law is on the parents' side, if the police and CPS want to take their children away, the police and CPS can take their children away.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 07:57     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:6 is way too young to be without adult supervision.


Maybe for some kids, or even a lot of kids, but definitely not every kid.


No, for every kid. The end.


Six-year-olds used to be capable of being out without adult supervision. Six-year-olds in other countries to this day are capable of being out without adult supervision. Do middle-class people in the US just have particularly incompetent six-year-olds, these days?


When were six-year-olds commonly walking around without adult supervision? Be specific.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2015 07:56     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:The parents should NOT use their kids to make a statement. It should be clear to them that they do not live in an area where the community agrees with their style of parenting. So start a free-range advocacy group, write a book, or move to an area that agrees with your parenting philosophy. But for now, play by the rules. If CPS wants you to supervise your kids at public places, do it. If you don't, you have to know that the kids might be picked up again by CPS. That is simply TOO MUCH STRESS to put on these kids.


Neither should CPS or the police. The decisions of private citizens, such as the parents, are their business. The actions of public agencies, such as CPS and the police, are my business, your business, and everybody's business.