Anonymous
Post 04/09/2015 15:10     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of people get government handouts: farmers, the elderly, corporations (ultimately, their shareholders). Why don't we put restrictions on them too?


Because they are actually being (or once were) productive members of society, not sucking us down the drain


If that is how you see the unemployed, you can expect that they will never become Republicans, ever.


The perpetually unemployed and the perpetually on welfare and the people who feel they should get free money if they don't want to work because hey its a free country are sucking us all down the drain.


Even better: My kid has to go on a mandatory service trip (that I have to pay for) in order to graduate.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 21:13     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:How are they going to enforce this?


By reading the statement of account at the end of the month?
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 21:08     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are they going to enforce this?


Seems like four pages of posters missed this point.

This is completely unenforceable. This is nothing more than class warfare on the poor, Ronald Reagan's Cadillac driving Welfare Queen (who didn't actually exist) all over again.

Kansas GOP is driving that state into the ground fiscally...pay no attention, let's scapegoat the poors.


The welfare queen did actually exist http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2013/12/linda_taylor_welfare_queen_ronald_reagan_made_her_a_notorious_american_villain.html
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 20:48     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:Really mean! It's horrible to have to be forced onto welfare instead of working. And if that's not punishment enough, now people from fly-over country and imposing restrictions to punish people for being poor!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/04/06/kansas-wants-to-ban-welfare-recipients-from-seeing-movies-going-swimming-on-governments-dime/

Regular folks are allowed to get tattoos, take the family to the movies, and maybe have a little fun once in a while at the casino; why shouldn't people from lesser-resources communities have the same rights?


Because the regular folk are paying for it
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 20:28     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:Really mean! It's horrible to have to be forced onto welfare instead of working. And if that's not punishment enough, now people from fly-over country and imposing restrictions to punish people for being poor!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/04/06/kansas-wants-to-ban-welfare-recipients-from-seeing-movies-going-swimming-on-governments-dime/

Regular folks are allowed to get tattoos, take the family to the movies, and maybe have a little fun once in a while at the casino; why shouldn't people from lesser-resources communities have the same rights?


I for one do not mind working 60 hour weeks and having my tax contributions going towards people who don't care about their or their kids' health, obesity, pre-teen pregnancies, diet or education.

America is a free county and has safety nets to help people people like that live their lives (ER rooms, medicaid, free counseling, housing subsidies, SNAP, etc.).
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 20:19     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of people get government handouts: farmers, the elderly, corporations (ultimately, their shareholders). Why don't we put restrictions on them too?


Because they are actually being (or once were) productive members of society, not sucking us down the drain


Many farmers are paid not to be productive.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 18:27     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of people get government handouts: farmers, the elderly, corporations (ultimately, their shareholders). Why don't we put restrictions on them too?


Because they are actually being (or once were) productive members of society, not sucking us down the drain


If that is how you see the unemployed, you can expect that they will never become Republicans, ever.


The perpetually unemployed and the perpetually on welfare and the people who feel they should get free money if they don't want to work because hey its a free country are sucking us all down the drain.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 16:01     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of people get government handouts: farmers, the elderly, corporations (ultimately, their shareholders). Why don't we put restrictions on them too?


Because they are actually being (or once were) productive members of society, not sucking us down the drain


If that is how you see the unemployed, you can expect that they will never become Republicans, ever.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 15:45     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

So someone who worked for 20 years and cannot find work now should be exempt?
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 15:27     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:Lots of people get government handouts: farmers, the elderly, corporations (ultimately, their shareholders). Why don't we put restrictions on them too?


Because they are actually being (or once were) productive members of society, not sucking us down the drain
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 15:25     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Lots of people get government handouts: farmers, the elderly, corporations (ultimately, their shareholders). Why don't we put restrictions on them too?
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 15:17     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone please explain to me why if someone chooses not to work because its a free country and they cannot pay for basic necessities because it is their choice not to work that I then have to be FORCED to pay for them to get a tattoo?

I'm a stupid republican after all, I need it spelled out for me.


An independent here (since everyone feels that they have to list their affiliation), I think you have posed the question in an inflammatory way the begs for an argument.

I think the more relevant question is whether and what type of restrictions should be placed on the use of these funds. One school of thought is that if a person gets a set amount per month, how they spend it is up to them as long as they understand that they cannot get more until next month. The other school of thought is that those funds should be restricted and certain uses should be prohibited.

I certainly see both sides. I guess I fall in the middle.


I am a Republican and I know what side I fall on.
Use government money to provide the essentials - food, housing, etc. Anything else should not be on the tax-payer’s dime.
For those of us “middle class” folks - it is difficult enough to make ends meet for OUR families.
I don’t mind helping out those who are truly needy - but don’t use my hard-earned money to fund tattoos, massages, and gambling.