Anonymous
04/01/2015 12:26
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, I have an 3.5 student at a Big 3 with significant sports/activities and generally rigorous classes. Likely merit semifinalist and SAT 2300. Are the Ivies out of range? Even with legacy status? I want to be practical about the admissions process.
Honestly, yes.
Even with legacy?
Anonymous
04/01/2015 12:17
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:So, I have an 3.5 student at a Big 3 with significant sports/activities and generally rigorous classes. Likely merit semifinalist and SAT 2300. Are the Ivies out of range? Even with legacy status? I want to be practical about the admissions process.
Honestly, yes.
Anonymous
04/01/2015 11:32
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.
A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.
A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.
B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.
B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)
I would switch a lot of the B and B/C schools. I'd say that BU, GWU, Villanova, Wisconsin, and Tulane are where B/C kids from our private go, along with Rhodes and Sewanee. Kenyon and Trinity are more of B student schools. I'd reserve places like Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, and Rollins for the kids who really got a lot of Cs. Our school rarely sends anyone to any of these schools and trust me, our school gives A LOT of Cs and Ds.
I also think A- students can be classified more like A students. STA does not even give minus grades!
Anonymous
04/01/2015 11:17
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
So, I have an 3.5 student at a Big 3 with significant sports/activities and generally rigorous classes. Likely merit semifinalist and SAT 2300. Are the Ivies out of range? Even with legacy status? I want to be practical about the admissions process.
Anonymous
04/01/2015 11:07
Subject: Re:Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trinity a/b list
My B/C kid got in a couple of years ago, as did several of her similarly situated classmates.
Wow, this shocking is shocking to me as when my dc applied it was is the top 20 and very selective. Where did your child end up if not Trinity? Trinity was a great school for my dc can't speak more highly of it. Hope it moves up in the ranks again. Very quality education
Lots of B/C kids got into Trinity last year. It's going through a tough time with all the angst over fraternities.
Anonymous
04/01/2015 11:04
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
I think it is hard to just go on grades without considering the relative grade inflation at the school and the type of classes a student takes. My experience is with Sidwell, which certainly sends many A/B students to the Ivies, but only where those students have taken a rigorous course load. The students with lighter course loads --regardless of grades -- tend not to make it to that level of school. Then there are students who get into top colleges for other intangible reasons -- special talents, wealth.
Anonymous
04/01/2015 08:32
Subject: Re:Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:What about schools like Vanderbilt, Emory, Rice (strong Southern schools)?
Vanderbilt and Rice -- A/B students
Emory -- B students
all 3 of these schools are becoming increasingly popular among DC-area applicants
Anonymous
04/01/2015 01:24
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Holton gives Cs.
big time - they don't sugar coat it at all. They make you work for your grades.
Anonymous
03/31/2015 23:15
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
baltimoreguy wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Carleton
I have never heard of this school? Is it recently popular? Is it public or private?
Minnesota? I have never heard of this place? Does it really exist?
Hee, hee. Good one.
baltimoreguy
03/31/2015 22:44
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Carleton
I have never heard of this school? Is it recently popular? Is it public or private?
Minnesota? I have never heard of this place? Does it really exist?
Anonymous
03/31/2015 21:51
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Carleton
I have never heard of this school? Is it recently popular? Is it public or private?
Carleton is a private college of about 2,000 students in Northfield, Minnesota (home also of St. Olaf College). It is typically in the top 10 liberal arts colleges according to US News & World Report. (Most recently it tied for 8th place, with Claremont McKenna and Haverford.) It typically ranks at the top of small liberal arts college for total numbers of national merit scholars. It's a top producer of Fulbright awardees and Peace Corps volunteers, and 65-75% of graduates go on for advanced degrees within five years. On the lighter side, its ultimate frisbee teams are nationally ranked, too.
Anonymous
03/31/2015 21:26
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Carleton
I have never heard of this school? Is it recently popular? Is it public or private?
Anonymous
03/31/2015 20:53
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.
A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.
A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.
B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.
B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)
I would move American and Denison, maybe Kenyon, to the A/B range. Admissions are getting tough at those schools.
Kenyon yes, the others no. My B/C student was w/l at Kenyon, got merit money at Denison.
How funny! My cousin was rejected at Denison and offered a third-pay merit at Kenyon!
Denison is big on merit aid. 97% of the students get need based and/or merit aid. Admission rate is 45% compared to Kenyon's 25% So I suspect my DCs experience is more typical than your cousin's.
Kenyon grad here, married to a denison grad. Rates both hover around 40% acceptance with normal fluctuation year to year. Denison is big on aid because they have a huge endowment. Both are good schools. I would not take either "one person" experience as the norm. Many apply to both as there are many similarities.
Anonymous
03/31/2015 19:22
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.
A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.
A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.
B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.
B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)
I would move American and Denison, maybe Kenyon, to the A/B range. Admissions are getting tough at those schools.
Kenyon yes, the others no. My B/C student was w/l at Kenyon, got merit money at Denison.
How funny! My cousin was rejected at Denison and offered a third-pay merit at Kenyon!
Denison is big on merit aid. 97% of the students get need based and/or merit aid. Admission rate is 45% compared to Kenyon's 25% So I suspect my DCs experience is more typical than your cousin's.
Anonymous
03/31/2015 17:39
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Can't say.