Anonymous
03/27/2015 21:33
Subject: Re:residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do we know that not just one parent lives in Maryland while the other lives in DC? Stop being a snitch, OP!
Shut up! The only person who needs to stop is you, idiot.
I mean, I made a valid point, though. How do we know that the parent actually lives in DC but has MD registered tags? How do we know that the child actually belongs to a legal guardian who lives in DC? How do we know that these people's permanent address isn't a DC address, but they are temporarily living elsewhere? These are all things that have to be considered before you just go telling on people.
You don't know. It's OSSE's job to find out. So she reports it and lets them do their job. Calling every week is over the top though. They won't divulge personal information if the child is legitimately at the school, so once you report it, you have to assume if the child stays they are entitled to be there for one reason or another. Many wards of DC are fostered in MD but have rights to attend DC schools; but OSSE won't tell the tipster that the child is a Ward of the District (or whatever the reason for the placement). Doesn't make it wrong to call the tip line.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 21:18
Subject: residency cheater
in your situation I think you should keep the slot and finish out the year. We're not talking about people in your situation.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We're moving out of DC for the last two months of the school year, but we want to keep DS in his DC school to finish out the year instead of being "new kid" for the last seven weeks. What does DCUM say?
I say your children shouldn't be punished for a family decision and the amount of disruption is not a good reason for someone to go after you.
Thanks so much for saying this. I feel pretty uneasy about it, but I think it's the best thing for our child. And I tell myself that he wouldn't be taking someone else's spot at this point in the year.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 21:03
Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here.
I know the PG county (yes, it's PG) address and phone number for this family (via simple google search). I know they don't live in the DC house because I am friends with the people who own the house!
It appears these cheaters picked an address out of the phone book and it worked (so far).
I will keep emailing and calling until this is resolved.
I hate this kind of deception.
For starters, google can also show previous addresses and phone numbers. If I google myself, it'll say I live in Germantown, MD with an old house number. I haven't lived there in years. Secondly, it sure is a crazy coincidence that the address they just so happened to randomly pick out of the phone book was the phone that your friend's own. Let's explore further.
1) Are you sure these people aren't renting the house, with your "friends" as landlords?
2) Why did you google the family in the first place? What gave you the initial suspicion?
3) How in hell could this family possibly prove residency at a house that they have NO connection with? It's not like they're using their mom's address or their auntie's address. That makes no sense.
NP. This part is quite easy. Too easy. Never understood why a pay stub was a required document.
For me its a simple as:
1) log on to HR system at work
2) click change personal information
3) change address to 4130 Albermarle St NW
4) wait until my payday Friday and print pay stub with new address. Badda bing!
A person that has does that (especially with high IB population) has a lot of balls. And it's very likely if it's a neighborhood school, OP would know the owner of this random address. I have only lived in my small neighbhood 3 years and know about 2 people on every 10 house block.
But how did
OP know that the student used this particular address? Surely the person did not share that information. And, the school certainly did not disseminate students' home addressesr.
Um, the school directory. There is an online directory.
My school does only provide patent names and email addresses. What school provides home addresses?
Anonymous
03/27/2015 20:58
Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:While this issue is illegal and annoying you need to think about how this affects the child who will be removed. Entitled parents are so self involved and don't stop to think about how this will affect the child who is not guilty of parents making that desiciin. Imagine going to school making friends and then having to be removed from your community and placed someone else. Not to mention the weeks of school missed due to the transfer.
And it's almost freaking April- OP really wants them to kick a kid out now? I hope OP does call the office every week- they'll get a reputation for being a bit off.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 20:48
Subject: residency cheater
You lied and took a chance you wouldn't be caught. Should a tax cheat not be sent to prison because it might adversely affect their children? There's no reason a kid would have to miss weeks of school. Your straw man has no legs.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 20:34
Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight, but I don't understand why people are so against OP reporting someone. I get the "MYOB" line of thought, but it's not like she is calling CPS. I send my kid to DCPS and proving residency is pretty easy. If someone questioned my kids, it would be very simple to prove their right to attend.
It's not always easy. I'm a native Washingtonian and a homeowner, but I don't drive and don't own a vehicle. My XH had to register the kids.
It's a lot to put someone through because of OP's sense of righteousness. Google has me at an address in New Orleans, during a portion of grad school. It's like citing Wikipedia as far as I'm concerned, cuz of course the Internet is never wrong.
If you own a home, that is proof enough. What's the real deal ?
Right or supply one pay stub.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 20:31
Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We're moving out of DC for the last two months of the school year, but we want to keep DS in his DC school to finish out the year instead of being "new kid" for the last seven weeks. What does DCUM say?
I say your children shouldn't be punished for a family decision and the amount of disruption is not a good reason for someone to go after you.
Thanks so much for saying this. I feel pretty uneasy about it, but I think it's the best thing for our child. And I tell myself that he wouldn't be taking someone else's spot at this point in the year.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 20:30
Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight, but I don't understand why people are so against OP reporting someone. I get the "MYOB" line of thought, but it's not like she is calling CPS. I send my kid to DCPS and proving residency is pretty easy. If someone questioned my kids, it would be very simple to prove their right to attend.
It's not always easy. I'm a native Washingtonian and a homeowner, but I don't drive and don't own a vehicle. My XH had to register the kids.
It's a lot to put someone through because of OP's sense of righteousness. Google has me at an address in New Orleans, during a portion of grad school. It's like citing Wikipedia as far as I'm concerned, cuz of course the Internet is never wrong.
If you own a home, that is proof enough. What's the real deal ?
Anonymous
03/27/2015 20:24
Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:While this issue is illegal and annoying you need to think about how this affects the child who will be removed. Entitled parents are so self involved and don't stop to think about how this will affect the child who is not guilty of parents making that desiciin. Imagine going to school making friends and then having to be removed from your community and placed someone else. Not to mention the weeks of school missed due to the transfer.
So you're going to blame the system for kicking the kid out, not the parents who put him or her there against the law. And you call the reporting parent entitled?Nice.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 20:21
Subject: residency cheater
While this issue is illegal and annoying you need to think about how this affects the child who will be removed. Entitled parents are so self involved and don't stop to think about how this will affect the child who is not guilty of parents making that desiciin. Imagine going to school making friends and then having to be removed from your community and placed someone else. Not to mention the weeks of school missed due to the transfer.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 20:06
Subject: Re:residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do we know that not just one parent lives in Maryland while the other lives in DC? Stop being a snitch, OP!
Shut up! The only person who needs to stop is you, idiot.
I mean, I made a valid point, though. How do we know that the parent actually lives in DC but has MD registered tags? How do we know that the child actually belongs to a legal guardian who lives in DC? How do we know that these people's permanent address isn't a DC address, but they are temporarily living elsewhere? These are all things that have to be considered before you just go telling on people.
We don't, you report, someone else investigates. If it's legit, it's legit.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 19:35
Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here.
I know the PG county (yes, it's PG) address and phone number for this family (via simple google search). I know they don't live in the DC house because I am friends with the people who own the house!
It appears these cheaters picked an address out of the phone book and it worked (so far).
I will keep emailing and calling until this is resolved.
I hate this kind of deception.
For starters, google can also show previous addresses and phone numbers. If I google myself, it'll say I live in Germantown, MD with an old house number. I haven't lived there in years. Secondly, it sure is a crazy coincidence that the address they just so happened to randomly pick out of the phone book was the phone that your friend's own. Let's explore further.
1) Are you sure these people aren't renting the house, with your "friends" as landlords?
2) Why did you google the family in the first place? What gave you the initial suspicion?
3) How in hell could this family possibly prove residency at a house that they have NO connection with? It's not like they're using their mom's address or their auntie's address. That makes no sense.
NP. This part is quite easy. Too easy. Never understood why a pay stub was a required document.
For me its a simple as:
1) log on to HR system at work
2) click change personal information
3) change address to 4130 Albermarle St NW
4) wait until my payday Friday and print pay stub with new address. Badda bing!
A person that has does that (especially with high IB population) has a lot of balls. And it's very likely if it's a neighborhood school, OP would know the owner of this random address. I have only lived in my small neighbhood 3 years and know about 2 people on every 10 house block.
But how did
OP know that the student used this particular address? Surely the person did not share that information. And, the school certainly did not disseminate students' home addressesr.
Um, the school directory. There is an online directory.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 19:14
Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight, but I don't understand why people are so against OP reporting someone. I get the "MYOB" line of thought, but it's not like she is calling CPS. I send my kid to DCPS and proving residency is pretty easy. If someone questioned my kids, it would be very simple to prove their right to attend.
It's not always easy. I'm a native Washingtonian and a homeowner, but I don't drive and don't own a vehicle. My XH had to register the kids.
It's a lot to put someone through because of OP's sense of righteousness. Google has me at an address in New Orleans, during a portion of grad school. It's like citing Wikipedia as far as I'm concerned, cuz of course the Internet is never wrong.
You don't work? You don't own, rent your home? You don't have bills in your name?
Anonymous
03/27/2015 19:09
Subject: residency cheater
Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight, but I don't understand why people are so against OP reporting someone. I get the "MYOB" line of thought, but it's not like she is calling CPS. I send my kid to DCPS and proving residency is pretty easy. If someone questioned my kids, it would be very simple to prove their right to attend.
It's not always easy. I'm a native Washingtonian and a homeowner, but I don't drive and don't own a vehicle. My XH had to register the kids.
It's a lot to put someone through because of OP's sense of righteousness. Google has me at an address in New Orleans, during a portion of grad school. It's like citing Wikipedia as far as I'm concerned, cuz of course the Internet is never wrong.
Anonymous
03/27/2015 18:59
Subject: residency cheater
^ If the school thinks there's bullshit going on they can ask for more. Also, they better make sure the docs are legit. Once you sign that OSSE affidavit you're attesting under penalty of perjury that you're telling the truth.