Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 20:19     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".


The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents — #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.


Nuanced? Don't think so.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 20:17     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

Anonymous wrote:
The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents — #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.


Pretty clear.


Anonymous wrote:
If he was referring to Bush, he would have said "He's irresponsible. He's unpatriotic."

He is referring to the act.

Pretty clear.


Spin, spin, spin........you can spin all day if you like. It won't change.


Neanderthal brains cannot process nuance.

By calling the act irresponsible, that does not say that the sum of the acts of a man are unpatriotic.

Calling someone unpatriotic says that the sum of a man is unpatriotic.

The President said the former, not the latter which right wingers are unwilling and too filled with hate to understand.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 20:09     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents — #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.


Pretty clear.


If he was referring to Bush, he would have said "He's irresponsible. He's unpatriotic."

He is referring to the act.

Pretty clear.


Then I guess what Obama has done is doubly irresponsible and unpatriotic. Twice the debt - and growing.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 20:07     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

If he was referring to Bush, he would have said "He's irresponsible. He's unpatriotic."

He is referring to the act.

Pretty clear.


Spin, spin, spin........you can spin all day if you like. It won't change.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:58     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

Anonymous wrote:
The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents — #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.


Pretty clear.


If he was referring to Bush, he would have said "He's irresponsible. He's unpatriotic."

He is referring to the act.

Pretty clear.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:54     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

Anonymous wrote:
The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents — #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.


Pretty clear.


You'll believe what you want to believe.

He is referring to the act, not the person.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:51     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents — #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.


Pretty clear.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:46     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

Anonymous wrote:
He said running up the debt is unpatriotic. Didn't hear him say that Bush was unpatriotic. Nice try.


He prefaced it by talking about Bush. You are not that stupid. Your spin won't work.


What YOU inferred

and

what HE said

are two different things.

Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:44     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

He said running up the debt is unpatriotic. Didn't hear him say that Bush was unpatriotic. Nice try.


He prefaced it by talking about Bush. You are not that stupid. Your spin won't work.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:39     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

Anonymous wrote:
You just made that up. Par for the course for you and your ilk.


LOL! Gotcha.


He said running up the debt is unpatriotic. Didn't hear him say that Bush was unpatriotic. Nice try.

Obama is paying for the wars and tax cuts that bush ran up without mandating any revenue.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:35     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

You just made that up. Par for the course for you and your ilk.


LOL! Gotcha.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:34     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

Anonymous wrote:By the way, Obama called Bush unpatriotic for a deficit that was half the current size.


You just made that up. Par for the course for you and your ilk.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:32     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

By the way, Obama called Bush unpatriotic for a deficit that was half the current size.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:32     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U

Go listen. He specifically mentions Bush.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2015 19:26     Subject: Re: Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".


Don't have to read--you can listen to him. You are parsing words. It is clear that he called Bush unpatriotic.


Please point me to the actual words and I will listen to them and parse them myself.