Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm.not Afghan but used to go to "free Afghanistan" demonstrations in downtown dc w my mom to stand in solidarity with the oppressed during the Russian occupation. All the US did was support them then, and more recently liberate territory from the Taliban and al qaeda and give them a fighting chance. We stood in solidarity with them - its called empathy. But everything you say is why people are questioning right now. You are the poster child of the selfish.

I'm not sure what your point is but I don't think the U.S. has very much "empathy," whether you're talking about civilians or the government. First, we apparently have armed every side in every conflict in the Middle East for the past 50 years at least. We've armed Saddam, we've armed the Taliban, we've armed dictatorships. We shoved out democratically elected leaders and installed our own crappy governments, then we've watched as our governments were thrown out and watched as extremists threw those governments out. We outright took over Afghanistan and Iraq with absolutely no idea of what to do with them afterwards. Meanwhile regular U.S. citizens cluelessly sit back as their government wreaks havoc. No, we do not have empathy. We are freaking terrible.

Don't forget to add "while funding their government's crazy shenanigans without a single opportunity to influence it".

Anonymous wrote:I'm.not Afghan but used to go to "free Afghanistan" demonstrations in downtown dc w my mom to stand in solidarity with the oppressed during the Russian occupation. All the US did was support them then, and more recently liberate territory from the Taliban and al qaeda and give them a fighting chance. We stood in solidarity with them - its called empathy. But everything you say is why people are questioning right now. You are the poster child of the selfish.

I'm not sure what your point is but I don't think the U.S. has very much "empathy," whether you're talking about civilians or the government. First, we apparently have armed every side in every conflict in the Middle East for the past 50 years at least. We've armed Saddam, we've armed the Taliban, we've armed dictatorships. We shoved out democratically elected leaders and installed our own crappy governments, then we've watched as our governments were thrown out and watched as extremists threw those governments out. We outright took over Afghanistan and Iraq with absolutely no idea of what to do with them afterwards. Meanwhile regular U.S. citizens cluelessly sit back as their government wreaks havoc. No, we do not have empathy. We are freaking terrible.

Anonymous wrote:I'm.not Afghan but used to go to "free Afghanistan" demonstrations in downtown dc w my mom to stand in solidarity with the oppressed during the Russian occupation. All the US did was support them then, and more recently liberate territory from the Taliban and al qaeda and give them a fighting chance. We stood in solidarity with them - its called empathy. But everything you say is why people are questioning right now. You are the poster child of the selfish.

Lol yes, every time the U.S. gets involved in Afghanistan, things become SO much better for the Afghans. It's practically Canada by now.

I think one of the problems with attitudes in the US is that some have been influenced by imams in mosques here in the US (Hassan for example). It just would seem that the members would have known.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think people would like to see Muslims demonstrating against this stuff. We see so very many demonstrations against the west. One for the west would be powerful. And they would be joined by many walks oflife.

Well, if you consider that the US and the west are the root cause of all of these problems, they've been protesting against terrorism for years!

Say, aren't you needed down at Duke to protest injustice like church towers not being used for call to prayer? Its good to have priorities - clearly you have your eye in the important stuff these days, american injustice! Snarf.

I'm.not Afghan but used to go to "free Afghanistan" demonstrations in downtown dc w my mom to stand in solidarity with the oppressed during the Russian occupation. All the US did was support them then, and more recently liberate territory from the Taliban and al qaeda and give them a fighting chance. We stood in solidarity with them - its called empathy. But everything you say is why people are questioning right now. You are the poster child of the selfish.

Anonymous wrote:I think people would like to see Muslims demonstrating against this stuff. We see so very many demonstrations against the west. One for the west would be powerful. And they would be joined by many walks oflife.

Well, if you consider that the US and the west are the root cause of all of these problems, they've been protesting against terrorism for years!

Not in favor of the us, against Charlie hedbo, against the killing af any hostages by Isis, against the Copenhagen attack - against more than what just directly affects them. And Muslim.communities in every country, including western. Of course they demonstrated in Jordan against one of their citizens being burned alive. You're just being obtuse on purpose I guess.

Anonymous wrote:I think people would like to see Muslims demonstrating against this stuff. We see so very many demonstrations against the west. One for the west would be powerful. And they would be joined by many walks oflife.

Did you miss the demonstrations in Jordan?

Why would they demonstrate in favor of the US, whose numerous mis-steps have brought nothing but more chaos and misery to the Middle East? History is not forgotten easily in that area of the world.

I think people would like to see Muslims demonstrating against this stuff. We see so very many demonstrations against the west. One for the west would be powerful. And they would be joined by many walks oflife.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your entire list is 9/11. Anything a little more recent? Like Charlie Hedbo? Or Denmark?

The one I posted was from today. But, apparently it is biased. It is the author's own condemnation. How can a condemnation be biased? But, just use Google and you will find any condemnation you want. I have no idea why everyone seems to believe that Muslims never condemn anything. They have practically made an industry of it.

Because the talking heads on Fox say they don't.

Anonymous wrote:Your entire list is 9/11. Anything a little more recent? Like Charlie Hedbo? Or Denmark?

The one I posted was from today. But, apparently it is biased. It is the author's own condemnation. How can a condemnation be biased? But, just use Google and you will find any condemnation you want. I have no idea why everyone seems to believe that Muslims never condemn anything. They have practically made an industry of it.

Your entire list is 9/11. Anything a little more recent? Like Charlie Hedbo? Or Denmark?

Thank you for posting this.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I want to know is, where are the public statements, the talking heads of the so-called moderate Muslim world, the leaders of the Muslim groups here in the US? Where are they in condemning this, even as public relations statement?

What i want to know is why does this question come up in every single thread on this sort of topic? Muslims have made any number of public statements. The top Egyptian cleric actually called for the crucifixion of IS members. King Abdullah II promised "endless war". Even the leader of Hizbollah criticized the group. Go here and look at these condemnations:

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/american-muslim-organizations-condemn-isis-murder-of-journalist-james-foley/0020275

I am sorry that the news sources you follow don't think these condemnations are worth informing you about. Maybe you should look into other news sources?

Yes the top Egyptian cleric. Glad to hear it. I want to hear from just one Muslim leader in this country.

As I said, re-evaluate your news sources. Here is one:

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2015/02/universal-brotherhood/the-muslim-times-strongly-condemns-killing-of-innocent-coptic-christians-by-isis

Her's a nice compiled list for you since your news sources seems to be bias. Its only a partial list as it stats on on the page 200 or so, to many for me to actually count.
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php