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Anonymous wrote:All the shootings and gun accidents are just accidents, and not pertinent.

There is no such thing as an "accidental" discharge -- they are negligent discharges.

Yes. And the accidental deaths, are they are just deaths? Not pertinent?

They are deaths caused by negligence, not "accidents." Not "just deaths."

Do you even comprehend that by calling it that (what it is) I am placing more responsibility on the at-fault gun owner or operator? I'm not making excuses, I'm pointing to accountability.

I'm disappointed at your inability to comprehend placing MORE, not less, responsibility on the gun owners (and I am one) for what happens.

I'd be concerned if this interest in guns was accompanied by (1) a sudden change of political viewpoint or (2) an unwillingness to accept ANY guidance about gun safety/storage.

If it is for self-defense, a gun safe in the bedroom is the way to go.

If it is for target practice, then there should be zero objection to storing gun + ammo separately.

For somewhere between 100,000 and 195,000 years, homo sapiens sapiens evolved with males hunting and protecting and women being protected so that the next generation could exist.

Sometime in the 20th century, someone decided weapons ownership wasn't normal or desirable. Despite that fact that most people who were murdered in the 20th century were murdered by their own governments.

Yes, I'm being provocative. But it's true.

More facts.

Over the past 100 years, accidental death by firearm - children, adults...has gone down dramatically. You can find these statistics yourself, google is your friend. The statistic is without controversy. Swimming pools kill more children in America every year than guns.

What isn't a fact is the trope/myth/legend that there is an epidemic of 'gun violence" killing children. There isn't, despite a few statistically anomalous and heart-rending stories and events.

There are a lot of young African-American males killing one another, largely over criminal activity, drugs, gangs. When "children" is defined as up to 17, or up to 21 or 25...

We don't have a gun problem in America. We have a problem with broken culture(s). We have problems with crime, poverty, prenatal care, poor education, diminished opportunity, culture of entitlement, the useless war on drugs.

The same people who want you to believe - as an article of faith, emotionally, passionately, as an emblem of your identity, your sophistication, defining yourself against the rednecks and hillbillies in flyover country...are the 1%, those who want the borders opened for cheap labor upon which America runs, those whose wealth grows itself, those who have bodyguards but want you disarmed...who want you happy, content but not too content, whiling away your weekends recreationally shopping for Chinese-made goods and watching trash reality television and bad movies that recycle plots or remake other bad movies while what rights you had drift away into nothingness...nothing to see here, citizen...move along.

Your husband is on the right track, but he doesn't know why or what it means. He just knows, intuitively, the difference between freedom and slavery.

Do you?

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Anonymous wrote:This hits close to home (not pun intended). My husband took up shooting as a hobby and I told him I didn't want a gun around our kids and to not buy one. He got one anyway. I don't even bring it up because it is a sore subject. He doesn't say he's going to go shoot at the shooting range. He just goes somewhere else he tells me about and then probably goes shooting after. I don't like it one bit. He keeps it in the car. My dad had a rifle that he kept out in the open and occasionally hunted which I was fine with, but my husband is secretive about it. What does he have to hide?

Husband is an idiot to keep the gun in the car.

Where should he keep it then if I don't want it in the house?

My younger brother found our uncle's pistol under the seat of his car when we were kids. Anyway it should be obvious that a vehicle is not a secure location to keep a gun.

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Anonymous wrote:This hits close to home (not pun intended). My husband took up shooting as a hobby and I told him I didn't want a gun around our kids and to not buy one. He got one anyway. I don't even bring it up because it is a sore subject. He doesn't say he's going to go shoot at the shooting range. He just goes somewhere else he tells me about and then probably goes shooting after. I don't like it one bit. He keeps it in the car. My dad had a rifle that he kept out in the open and occasionally hunted which I was fine with, but my husband is secretive about it. What does he have to hide?

Husband is an idiot to keep the gun in the car.

Where should he keep it then if I don't want it in the house?

I'm pretty sure he can rent a storage locker at any gun range.

He said once it seemed boring to shoot at the range, so I assume he's not that into it as a hobby, and probably has it more for self defense. That probably explains why he'd rather keep it nearby than at a gun range. Still, I think it's dumb to use it for self defense because then you are taking the law into your own hands.

Anonymous wrote:Seriously? There's no way I'd risk my kids getting shot.

Your not teaching your kids about safe handling if guns greatly increases the chances they are the ones who get hurt if someone else has one who does not know how to handle safely. Just a thought.

Anonymous wrote:All the people I know who are gun fanatics are pathetic in at least one other area of their life - bad husbands, can't keep down a good job, etc. One locked gun for shooting practice stored safely away doesn't concern me as much (though I would never allow it in my home), but people with multiple guns generally have some kind of mental problem or significant insecurities.

Both my grandfather and my uncle kept guns. Grandpa had three handguns, and my uncle, who was a schoolteacher in the inner city and a hunter, had shotguns, hunting rifles and a handgun. The latter was for protection. If it gave him piece of mind, so be it.

Both were liberal Democrats and were the furthest from people with "mental attitudes." To quote Ainsley Hayes, "you don't like people who like guns, you don't like the people."

Anonymous wrote:Please inform the parents of your children's friends about guns in your house. I would not allow my child to be in your home and would appreciate knowing in advance. Thanks.

Would you allow your children to play at a house with a swimming pool? Statistically speaking, they are much more likely to drown in a pool than be killed by a firearm.

My daughter's best friend's parents own guns. In fact, they keep quite an arsenal. All the guns are locked in a gun safe. The parents have taken the girls out to shoot at a range under supervision. You need to stop being ruled by your fear, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:All the shootings and gun accidents are just accidents, and not pertinent.

There is no such thing as an "accidental" discharge -- they are negligent discharges.

Yes. And the accidental deaths, are they are just deaths? Not pertinent?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This hits close to home (not pun intended). My husband took up shooting as a hobby and I told him I didn't want a gun around our kids and to not buy one. He got one anyway. I don't even bring it up because it is a sore subject. He doesn't say he's going to go shoot at the shooting range. He just goes somewhere else he tells me about and then probably goes shooting after. I don't like it one bit. He keeps it in the car. My dad had a rifle that he kept out in the open and occasionally hunted which I was fine with, but my husband is secretive about it. What does he have to hide?

Husband is an idiot to keep the gun in the car.

Where should he keep it then if I don't want it in the house?

I'm pretty sure he can rent a storage locker at any gun range.

Anonymous wrote:It is a hobby for assholes. Your husband is a shit.

+1.

OP,

1. He should be telling you about all guns in the house, where and how they are stored.
2. You can have a hobby involving guns without owning any.
3. That's a major parenting conflict, introducing guns to a child. I don't see the point.

Good luck figuring it out.

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I'm a Male. x-military SF with real combat experience, not admin or truck duty etc.

I own just the basic for self defense that is not accessible to children. People that are gun fanatics make me sick. They usually fall into two categories. Someone that is perverted and a real risk to society, luckily that makes the vast minority of folks. Most are men with fantasies of fulfilling their inner macho selves that have never lived it in reality. Covering up their fantasies with "it's just a hobby". Either way it makes me sick how cavalier this country is with people that have no business owning such an arsenal.

Lady, stick to your "guns" and lay the law down with your obsessed hubby.

OP, please listen to this man.

"He" is totally making shit up. Probably including the "I'm a Male" part. Seriously -- who the hell says "I'm a Male" not "I'm a man"?

That's ridiculous. So what if he refers to himself as male. My dad would probably refer to himself as a male.

This person should not be listened to because he didn't say anything worthwhile or helpful to op. The post is nothing but a humblebrag about his military career. He owns "the basic for self defense"? What is that, a loaded handgun in the nightstand drawer? A concealed carry he unloads every night and puts in a safe? Big difference when kids are involved. Then he passes judgment on people who are different from him. Just like anyone going slower then you on the highway is an idiot and anyone going faster is crazy, anyone owning more guns than pp or owning them for different reasons is a fanatic. Then he says to "lay down the law" meaning what? Guns are legal. Storing them unsafely is legal, unfortunately. What should op do? Say "no guns in the house" and set up the situation other pp is in where she has no idea if her kids are safe or not? Say "ok but safety measures pls"?

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I'm a Male. x-military SF with real combat experience, not admin or truck duty etc.

I own just the basic for self defense that is not accessible to children. People that are gun fanatics make me sick. They usually fall into two categories. Someone that is perverted and a real risk to society, luckily that makes the vast minority of folks. Most are men with fantasies of fulfilling their inner macho selves that have never lived it in reality. Covering up their fantasies with "it's just a hobby". Either way it makes me sick how cavalier this country is with people that have no business owning such an arsenal.

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I've shot since I was about 8 yrs. old, own 2 handguns (locked up, no kids in house) and have a CCW, favor stronger regulation (require real competence testing before anyone gets a CCW, etc.), yet I agree with you about the fanatics.

I worked with (managing) federal LEOs for over 20 years, including training with them at the range a few times (I didn't carry a badge or gun). My LEO friends refer to the latter category above (the swaggering macho imagineers) as "barrel suckers" -- and it's not a term of admiration.

p.s. one of the guns is my grandfather's 1930s Colt target pistol (an "antique" historical piece), the other is current vintage -- it's not an arsenal or even really a collection.

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Anonymous wrote:This hits close to home (not pun intended). My husband took up shooting as a hobby and I told him I didn't want a gun around our kids and to not buy one. He got one anyway. I don't even bring it up because it is a sore subject. He doesn't say he's going to go shoot at the shooting range. He just goes somewhere else he tells me about and then probably goes shooting after. I don't like it one bit. He keeps it in the car. My dad had a rifle that he kept out in the open and occasionally hunted which I was fine with, but my husband is secretive about it. What does he have to hide?

Husband is an idiot to keep the gun in the car.

Where should he keep it then if I don't want it in the house?