Anonymous
12/02/2014 16:09
Subject: Re:Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Forced air heating systems... "degrade indoor air quality because the buffer
spaces where ducts are located are often moist and have large amounts of biological activity
(crawlspaces), dust including cockroach and other allergens (attics), and vehicle exhaust or
solvent storage (garages). Thus an HVAC system may serve to increase contaminant loading
in a space and may introduce contaminants "
One study (of MANY) by University of Texas at Austin: http://www.caee.utexas.edu/prof/siegel/papers/conference/siegel_forcedair_hb_680.pdf
EEEK!
The code calls for those ducts to be sealed and insulated and wrapped. Not an issue anymore.
Anonymous
12/02/2014 15:33
Subject: Re:Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Anonymous wrote:Forced air heating systems... "degrade indoor air quality because the buffer
spaces where ducts are located are often moist and have large amounts of biological activity
(crawlspaces), dust including cockroach and other allergens (attics), and vehicle exhaust or
solvent storage (garages). Thus an HVAC system may serve to increase contaminant loading
in a space and may introduce contaminants "
One study (of MANY) by University of Texas at Austin: http://www.caee.utexas.edu/prof/siegel/papers/conference/siegel_forcedair_hb_680.pdf
EEEK!
Anonymous
12/02/2014 15:19
Subject: Re:Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Forced air heating systems... "degrade indoor air quality because the buffer
spaces where ducts are located are often moist and have large amounts of biological activity
(crawlspaces), dust including cockroach and other allergens (attics), and vehicle exhaust or
solvent storage (garages). Thus an HVAC system may serve to increase contaminant loading
in a space and may introduce contaminants "
One study (of MANY) by University of Texas at Austin: http://www.caee.utexas.edu/prof/siegel/papers/conference/siegel_forcedair_hb_680.pdf
spaces where ducts are located are often moist and have large amounts of biological activity
(crawlspaces), dust including cockroach and other allergens (attics), and vehicle exhaust or
solvent storage (garages). Thus an HVAC system may serve to increase contaminant loading
in a space and may introduce contaminants "
One study (of MANY) by University of Texas at Austin: http://www.caee.utexas.edu/prof/siegel/papers/conference/siegel_forcedair_hb_680.pdf
Anonymous
12/02/2014 08:42
Subject: Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Rads = old technology for old people.
Anonymous
12/02/2014 02:35
Subject: Re:Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Had a lengthy discussion with my friend who grew up in Germany with water heated rads. He said they were awful , a lot of dust gets trapped in the radiators and they take up a lot of wall space.
He was impressed by my new build's forced air and thought it was nice the air came from the floor vents because the floors felt warm.
He said that the radiator air was still dry and that they would often bring in fans to distribute the heat that was trapped on the side of the rooms because unlike central HVAC with intakes the air would be stagnate.
The no fan advantage was false in his case and in fact the dust trapped behind and around the radiators would blow in the air.
Haha, what? That might just be your German friend's attempt at being humorous.
I our office we have rads and the heat is not evenly distributed and the air lacks circulation. The building maintenance actually runs the hvac on fan mode to help circulate the air. I would hate to not have any circulation.
Anonymous
12/02/2014 00:18
Subject: Re:Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Anonymous wrote:Had a lengthy discussion with my friend who grew up in Germany with water heated rads. He said they were awful , a lot of dust gets trapped in the radiators and they take up a lot of wall space.
He was impressed by my new build's forced air and thought it was nice the air came from the floor vents because the floors felt warm.
He said that the radiator air was still dry and that they would often bring in fans to distribute the heat that was trapped on the side of the rooms because unlike central HVAC with intakes the air would be stagnate.
The no fan advantage was false in his case and in fact the dust trapped behind and around the radiators would blow in the air.
Haha, what? That might just be your German friend's attempt at being humorous.
Anonymous
12/01/2014 16:27
Subject: Re:Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Had a lengthy discussion with my friend who grew up in Germany with water heated rads. He said they were awful , a lot of dust gets trapped in the radiators and they take up a lot of wall space.
He was impressed by my new build's forced air and thought it was nice the air came from the floor vents because the floors felt warm.
He said that the radiator air was still dry and that they would often bring in fans to distribute the heat that was trapped on the side of the rooms because unlike central HVAC with intakes the air would be stagnate.
The no fan advantage was false in his case and in fact the dust trapped behind and around the radiators would blow in the air.
He was impressed by my new build's forced air and thought it was nice the air came from the floor vents because the floors felt warm.
He said that the radiator air was still dry and that they would often bring in fans to distribute the heat that was trapped on the side of the rooms because unlike central HVAC with intakes the air would be stagnate.
The no fan advantage was false in his case and in fact the dust trapped behind and around the radiators would blow in the air.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 20:40
Subject: Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
I think it really depends on the style of your home. We live in a 100+ year old house on Capitol Hill, and radiators are entirely appropriate for our house. Any addiition or renovation we make in the future will probably stick with radiant heat. We like the look, and we have never had a problem finding someone to sevice or repair the boiler or radiators.
Of course, in the best tradition of DCUM, anybody who disagrees with me is stupid ?
Of course, in the best tradition of DCUM, anybody who disagrees with me is stupid ?
Anonymous
11/17/2014 20:13
Subject: Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how radiator heat is moist, the system is closed pipes. Maybe it's because of poor insulation and wet basements in older homes?
Yeah. All old homes have radiators, wet basements and poor insulation.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 20:10
Subject: Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
One builder told us that since radiators are becoming less common there are fewer repairmen available who specialize in radiator and boiler repair issues. I'd hate to have a problem and then have a hard time getting someone to come and check it out.
^BS
^BS
Anonymous
11/17/2014 20:06
Subject: Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how radiator heat is moist, the system is closed pipes. Maybe it's because of poor insulation and wet basements in older homes?
It's less dry than forced air heat, which takes dry outside air, heats it up, and blows it into the house.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 19:54
Subject: Re:Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
It is not that uncommon if you have radiator heat, to add baseboard
radiators if you are building an addition. Hot water heat is also pretty simple
to zone.
radiators if you are building an addition. Hot water heat is also pretty simple
to zone.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 19:48
Subject: Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
Anonymous wrote:LOVE radiator heat. Forced air is more expensive and not as good. Probably cheaper to install, as I can't figure out why else folks would put it in.
1. Less expensive
2. Antiquated technology. Try buying a set of radiators for a new home. See how that works.
3. Uneven heat. Pushing air makes much more even heating. That is the main reason for #2
4. Shared systems with HVAC. The chance that your house had radiators and central air when it was built is 0%
4.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 18:23
Subject: Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
I don't understand how radiator heat is moist, the system is closed pipes. Maybe it's because of poor insulation and wet basements in older homes?
Anonymous
11/17/2014 18:14
Subject: Re:Radiator heat vs. forced air for house renovation
I love, love, love radiator heat -- nice and moist and doesn't blow the dust around. Given that so many people have pretty good sized allergies locally, I'd consider a boiler and radiator heat over forced air. The big glitch is whether you can also get central air with radiator heat. CAC is another given but most forced air is so drying, even with a humidifier connected to the furnace. Instead, I use room humidifiers...which is a bit awkward and yes, they need to be refiled often.