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Anonymous wrote:I started this thread and I will defend to the death my right to call the person to whom it was directed a bitch. Her posts on the gay son thread were vile and repeated. She basically stepped forward and presented herself as the mascot for gay bashing and prejudice, while at the same time proudly letting us all know that she was paying the hate forward by raising her kids to be gay bashers, too. I can only hope they have the sense to reject her bigotry the same way my parents rejected the anti-black and anti-semitic bigotry of their misguided parents.

Hate is learned. That bitch is a teacher. I am proud that I called her out.

You have your opinion and she has hers -- thing is she doesn't give a f--- if you think she's a bitch. She's not changing her mind. You're not either. So who are you arguing with? If she cared she would have participated in this thread, no?

She did. See 18:10.

Hmmmm. You or God?

I'm goin with God!

Anonymous wrote:I started this thread and I will defend to the death my right to call the person to whom it was directed a bitch. Her posts on the gay son thread were vile and repeated. She basically stepped forward and presented herself as the mascot for gay bashing and prejudice, while at the same time proudly letting us all know that she was paying the hate forward by raising her kids to be gay bashers, too. I can only hope they have the sense to reject her bigotry the same way my parents rejected the anti-black and anti-semitic bigotry of their misguided parents.

Hate is learned. That bitch is a teacher. I am proud that I called her out.

You have your opinion and she has hers -- thing is she doesn't give a f--- if you think she's a bitch. She's not changing her mind. You're not either. So who are you arguing with? If she cared she would have participated in this thread, no?

I started this thread and I will defend to the death my right to call the person to whom it was directed a bitch. Her posts on the gay son thread were vile and repeated. She basically stepped forward and presented herself as the mascot for gay bashing and prejudice, while at the same time proudly letting us all know that she was paying the hate forward by raising her kids to be gay bashers, too. I can only hope they have the sense to reject her bigotry the same way my parents rejected the anti-black and anti-semitic bigotry of their misguided parents.

Hate is learned. That bitch is a teacher. I am proud that I called her out.

To the person to whom this thread is directed: Why don't you re-read your posts from the other forum and figure out what people are having a problem with. You are entitled to your own opinion but you are offensive in how you talk about it and how you discuss executing it towards your own children. And have the courage to read the last 6 pages of this thread if you don't understand why this thread was created. Hoist by your own petard.

Anonymous wrote:I'm the bitch to whom this post is directed. Have not read the last 6 pages, as the reality is that you can call me a bigot or whatever, but it will not change my mind. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I'm condoning beating gay kids or anything of the like -- I think it's wrong and should be handled without physical violence. It's not like I think the Matthew Shepard incident was a positive thing.

I would just like to point out that gays (and their supporters) want everyone to support them because they want tolerance and love. Yet when someone doesn't, they are automatically a bitch and they are told "their kind are dying out and there will be a new, more tolerant world order." You may want to think about the definition of the word tolerance and think about whether people are allowed to express views different from yours.

How kind of you to restrict yourself to psychological violence.

Anonymous wrote:I'm the bitch to whom this post is directed. Have not read the last 6 pages, as the reality is that you can call me a bigot or whatever, but it will not change my mind. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I'm condoning beating gay kids or anything of the like -- I think it's wrong and should be handled without physical violence. It's not like I think the Matthew Shepard incident was a positive thing.

I would just like to point out that gays (and their supporters) want everyone to support them because they want tolerance and love. Yet when someone doesn't, they are automatically a bitch and they are told "their kind are dying out and there will be a new, more tolerant world order." You may want to think about the definition of the word tolerance and think about whether people are allowed to express views different from yours.

Did you have sex before marriage? Did anyone at your church have sex before marriage? Did anyone at your church have an affair? Think lustful thoughts about someone who is not their spouse? Have you? Are you Catholic? Has your priest abused a child? Did your bishop condone it? Has any pastor for your denomination been engaged in a sex scandal?

Before you talk about how sinful someone else is, you should look to your own behavior and the church's own behavior. Clean your own house before you condemn others.

"Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

Anonymous wrote:I'm the bitch to whom this post is directed. Have not read the last 6 pages, as the reality is that you can call me a bigot or whatever, but it will not change my mind. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I'm condoning beating gay kids or anything of the like -- I think it's wrong and should be handled without physical violence. It's not like I think the Matthew Shepard incident was a positive thing.

I would just like to point out that gays (and their supporters) want everyone to support them because they want tolerance and love. Yet when someone doesn't, they are automatically a bitch and they are told "their kind are dying out and there will be a new, more tolerant world order." You may want to think about the definition of the word tolerance and think about whether people are allowed to express views different from yours.

This is exactly what I said in defense of you! How tolerant of these people to hate you because your POV is different from theirs. I don't think you're a bitch at all, pp! Some of the people on here sure are though!

I don't like name calling regardless of which side of the aisle you are on. So, there was no reason to call anyone a bitch, especially on the title. Surprised that Jeff has not cleaned this up.

Anyways - no one has the right to pass judgement on the children of other people. You deal with your values and your kids the way you see fit, but you cannot pass judgement on other people's choices. Whatever happened to tolerance? Live and let live.

People's sexual preference is not harming anyone as long as this behavior is between single willing available adults.

Anonymous wrote:Serious question -- where are you all acquiring so many gay friends? I'm fairly certain that I live in the same area as many posters here -- filled with single hetero or married hetero couples. I know 2 gay women from work who I cannot stand because they are bitchy to work with -- they'd be just as bitchy if they were straight. I know 1 other gay woman for work who is pretty nice, but not someone I have much in common with simply because she's in her 50s with grown kids and I'm in my early 30s, though we interact just as any colleagues would with that kind of age/seniority difference. And then I know 1 gay guy my age also from work and while I think he's cool and we can interact on a surface level, it honestly does weird me out when he mentions his partner and my mind goes there.

How does everyone here know so many gay people and what is your true level of interaction? Is this the typical DCUM thing of "I'm open minded bc I has 1 black friend that's invited to my holiday open house every yr."

Currently?

My mom's friend just got divorced from her husband of 40+ years because he was gay and finally came out. Their son is also gay.

My cousin, who is a rector at an Episcopal church, is gay.

About 10% of the people I work with are gay. Some of them have become my friends.

The father of a guy I dated about 15 years ago is gay.

A mom at my son's school is gay.

My friend's sister is gay.


Most of these I never would have known were gay, except they told me. I didn't just "know" it. My gay-dar sucks, as one gay friend put it. Maybe yours does too.

When people talk about tolerance, they generally aren't talking about tolerating hateful views.

Serious question -- where are you all acquiring so many gay friends? I'm fairly certain that I live in the same area as many posters here -- filled with single hetero or married hetero couples. I know 2 gay women from work who I cannot stand because they are bitchy to work with -- they'd be just as bitchy if they were straight. I know 1 other gay woman for work who is pretty nice, but not someone I have much in common with simply because she's in her 50s with grown kids and I'm in my early 30s, though we interact just as any colleagues would with that kind of age/seniority difference. And then I know 1 gay guy my age also from work and while I think he's cool and we can interact on a surface level, it honestly does weird me out when he mentions his partner and my mind goes there.

How does everyone here know so many gay people and what is your true level of interaction? Is this the typical DCUM thing of "I'm open minded bc I has 1 black friend that's invited to my holiday open house every yr."

I'm the bitch to whom this post is directed. Have not read the last 6 pages, as the reality is that you can call me a bigot or whatever, but it will not change my mind. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I'm condoning beating gay kids or anything of the like -- I think it's wrong and should be handled without physical violence. It's not like I think the Matthew Shepard incident was a positive thing.

I would just like to point out that gays (and their supporters) want everyone to support them because they want tolerance and love. Yet when someone doesn't, they are automatically a bitch and they are told "their kind are dying out and there will be a new, more tolerant world order." You may want to think about the definition of the word tolerance and think about whether people are allowed to express views different from yours.

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Anonymous wrote:You're able to stay friends with bigots?

If you are talking to me, maybe I am and maybe I'm not. I wouldn't know. I don't go around discussing other people's sex lives with my friends. The topic of a persons sexual preference doesn't come up in conversation, so I wouldn't know. But I'll assume that none of my friends are bigots. What about those who lack tolerance for people that don't agree with their views though? You seem bigoted against the pp who doesn't agree with homosexuality.

I don't understand this. Do your friends' families never come up in the conversations you have with your friends? Your friends never talk about their wife/husband/boyfriend/girlfriend?

No.

Wtf do you talk about?

We have plenty of things to talk about, are you dumb? Do you have hobbies? Do you have kids? Do you do ANYTHING a but concern yourself with everyone else's sex lives? Oh and spend time on DCUM judging people? Anything?

Really? So your friends never say, "Oh, I saw a movie with my husband" or "my wife's looking to get a new car..."

I mean, really.

No, we try to keep things really, really, REALLY PC. We are very careful about what words we use and what topics we discuss so that nobody's feelings get hurt. It is the right thing to do, isn't it?

I am a person who thinks that homosexual acts are not in line with the teachings in the Bible. I also, however, condemn any act of hate against mankind, disenfranchising any group of people and limtations on who may join me at church. I do not think bullying anyone on any premise is okay, including a) homosexuality and b) religious beliefs.

I tend not to draw comparisons between groups that have been systematically marginalized for centuries (blacks in the US) with others who have been victims of isolated, independent acts of hate. Neither is right, okay, excusable, etc., but they are so fundamentally different on many levels.

I also am neutral on the marriage issue. Separation of church and state would indicate that although the state permits same sex marriage, it cannot and will not force a person to perform the marriage ceremony for whatever reason, including personal/religious morals.

I do not think that it is just,moral orGodly to exclude someone social services, employment or access to education on the basis of sexuality.

My beliefs, I share with my children within my house are just fine. If you met me, whether at church, school, in a social or professionl setting, this would probably never come up. I am just as comfortable with your beliefs as I am with mine.