Anonymous
11/08/2014 12:57
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
I see twelve maps (and one with no map) options with boundary implications. It looks like many of the options do not involve boundary changes and instead involve reassignments.
Anonymous
11/08/2014 12:44
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: I wish the maps on that proposal had street info if you blow up the map. I cannot figure out where they are changing boundaries without street info.
I don't the proposals are at that level of specificity yet. Is there a particular option/proposal you have in mind?
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Anonymous
11/08/2014 12:43
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
Anonymous wrote: I wish the maps on that proposal had street info if you blow up the map. I cannot figure out where they are changing boundaries without street info.
I don't the proposals are at that level of specificity yet. Is there a particular option/proposal you have in mind?
Anonymous
11/08/2014 12:27
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
I wish the maps on that proposal had street info if you blow up the map. I cannot figure out where they are changing boundaries without street info.
Anonymous
11/08/2014 12:10
Subject: Re:FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
I hope they work it out so that at least 1/3 of a high school class is at each middle school. These schools with only 10% of a high school class coming from one middle school needs to be fixed. Even 20% at one middle school compared to 80% at another middle school then coming together for high school is pretty one-sided.
Anonymous
11/08/2014 11:46
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
Anonymous wrote:There was a post on the FCAG group asking people to attend the work session on Monday. Is anyone planning on going?
I think any parents there would just be observers, and that the session will be videotaped and posted like other work sessions. That's good enough for me.
Anonymous
11/08/2014 11:14
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
There was a post on the FCAG group asking people to attend the work session on Monday. Is anyone planning on going?
Anonymous
11/08/2014 10:37
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
Anonymous wrote:Not sure about the thinking on the timing of new AAP centers, other than that they don't want to open new AAP centers at MS that are scheduled for renovation until after the renovations are completed. It may be that they think it makes sense to monitor the enrollment trends for a longer period at the other middle schools before making a decision.
I agree.
I think Facilities pretty much states their longer range projections were way off for elementary schools and it would be better to watch how things change over a couple of years before making longer range plans for elementary schools, and instead focus on middle/high schools.
While the causes of the variance between the elementary and high school enrollment projections are not known at this time, it is obvious that long-range projections will need to be modified as a result of the shifting dynamic currently underway. The majority of the capital funding is slated toward providing capacity relief at the elementary level. If the current trend were to continue for another year or two then the priorities within the CIP would need to shift toward the middle and high schools.
Facilities also shows how their projections for Centers were over-stated division-wide. (chart on page 2 of the Summary document, Attachment A)
Anonymous
11/08/2014 09:07
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
Anonymous wrote:I am shocked. They are not doing anything to help the overcrowding in the Fairfax pyramid. Guess they are waiting for Fairfax City to yell again.
Question - some of their solutions are to create AAP centers in schools so that overcrowded centers are helped. These changes take no capital funds. When they suggested it in elementary schools, they are suggested a timeline of 1-2 years. When they suggest it for middle school, the timeline is over the 3 year mark. Why?
They just redistricted to relieve overcrowding at Lanier/Fairfax and enrollment in the pyramid declined this year at every level. The long-term plans call for a new HS in western Fairfax and, while FCPS did not suggest this could impact FHS, I wouldn't be surprised if the western part of the FHS attendance area that is in the county ends up in that study. Certainly some of those areas are closer to Centreville than Fairfax.
Not sure about the thinking on the timing of new AAP centers, other than that they don't want to open new AAP centers at MS that are scheduled for renovation until after the renovations are completed. It may be that they think it makes sense to monitor the enrollment trends for a longer period at the other middle schools before making a decision.
Anonymous
11/08/2014 08:49
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
The list contains so many new AAP centers! It may be time to go all LLIV
Anonymous
11/08/2014 08:28
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
I am shocked. They are not doing anything to help the overcrowding in the Fairfax pyramid. Guess they are waiting for Fairfax City to yell again.
Question - some of their solutions are to create AAP centers in schools so that overcrowded centers are helped. These changes take no capital funds. When they suggested it in elementary schools, they are suggested a timeline of 1-2 years. When they suggest it for middle school, the timeline is over the 3 year mark. Why?
Question - some of their solutions are to create AAP centers in schools so that overcrowded centers are helped. These changes take no capital funds. When they suggested it in elementary schools, they are suggested a timeline of 1-2 years. When they suggest it for middle school, the timeline is over the 3 year mark. Why?
Anonymous
11/07/2014 22:03
Subject: Re:FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
Anonymous wrote:16:31 here: I looked at this again and the documents suggest that the movement of kids who might be moved from Kilmer AAP to a new Thoreau AAP center would be "AAP students residing within the Thoreau MS attendance area" currently at Kilmer AAP (main summary document at p. 15).
I don't know how that could possibly involve 250 students (see Attachment C - Map 10 at p. 11). Most Thoreau kids go the the Jackson AAP center, not Kilmer. The only exception seems to be the Kilmer AAP kids at Freedom Hill and Stenwood who have Thoreau as their base school, and I don't think anywhere close to 250 kids fall in that category, since Kilmer is the base school for most Freedom Hill and Stenwood kids. That's what made me think this option must involve moving other Kilmer AAP kids to Thoreau. Guess the actual details would emerge later if that option got some real traction.
There are also AAP kids at Wolftrap Elementary who will go to Kilmer, as their AAP Center, then back to Madison. It'd be great if they made Thoreau the AAP Center for all Town of Vienna kids for space/capacity reasons, given the overcrowding at Kilmer with the AAP students.
Anonymous
11/07/2014 18:40
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
Anonymous wrote:I agree with your last point - transparency is good.
But there still appear to be errors in the Attachment D numbers. As an example, Braddock does not feed to Belvedere as shown on page 42.
That appears to be one student from Braddock who ended up at Belvedere for AAP last year, even though Canterbury Woods is the assigned AAP school for Braddock. I assume that could happen if, for example, a parent worked at or near Belvedere, so I think it's probably correct.
On the other hand, if you look at p. 43 of Attachment D, I'm pretty sure it's wrong when it says that Longfellow had only six AAP students in the 8th grade out of 256 whose base school was Cooper. It seems like the total number of 8th graders in AAP at Longfellow last year is right, but that the base school allocation as between Cooper and Longfellow is off.
Anonymous
11/07/2014 18:35
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
Anonymous wrote:I agree with your last point - transparency is good.
But there still appear to be errors in the Attachment D numbers. As an example, Braddock does not feed to Belvedere as shown on page 42.
On second thought, it appears other transfers are mixed in. There is a Sandburg MS student shown at Glasgow, as an example.
Anonymous
11/07/2014 18:25
Subject: FCPS About to Propose Major Boundary Changes?
Anonymous wrote:I agree with your last point - transparency is good.
But there still appear to be errors in the Attachment D numbers. As an example, Braddock does not feed to Belvedere as shown on page 42.
Sorry. This is in reply to 18:01/18:10.