Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, stand corrected. I meant of the Abrahamic faiths.

their holy books may say that, but many people who consider themselves members of those faiths don't believe that.

Do you speak on their behalf? If you are atheist, why not let them speak for themselves.

Anonymous wrote:So each time any believer wishes to express their opinion, they are required to preface it with " In my opinion" or " I believe" or "I think"? And what about you? Have you ever posted any opinions without prefacing them with "In my opinion" or "I believe" or "I think"?

I think its safe to assume on a religious forum that if a poster is posting a comment, it is his or her opinion only.

And by now it should be safe to assume there are all kinds of variations in different belief systems. It does not detract from everyone's ultimate goal, which is to be united with God after life.

I've seen many comments posted as if they are absolute truth -- not surprising, because that's what some religions teach. Their evidence is their interpretation of what their holy book says.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, stand corrected. I meant of the Abrahamic faiths.

their holy books may say that, but many people who consider themselves members of those faiths don't believe that.

Yes, stand corrected. I meant of the Abrahamic faiths.

Anonymous wrote:So each time any believer wishes to express their opinion, they are required to preface it with " In my opinion" or " I believe" or "I think"? And what about you? Have you ever posted any opinions without prefacing them with "In my opinion" or "I believe" or "I think"?

I think its safe to assume on a religious forum that if a poster is posting a comment, it is his or her opinion only.

And by now it should be safe to assume there are all kinds of variations in different belief systems. It does not detract from everyone's ultimate goal, which is to be united with God after life.

You do realize that not all religions have that ultimate goal? Over a billion people for example believe in reincarnation

So each time any believer wishes to express their opinion, they are required to preface it with " In my opinion" or " I believe" or "I think"? And what about you? Have you ever posted any opinions without prefacing them with "In my opinion" or "I believe" or "I think"?

I think its safe to assume on a religious forum that if a poster is posting a comment, it is his or her opinion only.

And by now it should be safe to assume there are all kinds of variations in different belief systems. It does not detract from everyone's ultimate goal, which is to be united with God after life.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not that pp, but that posters view is the common view among people of faith. PP does not know. She trusts. That trust is based on faith. If you are an atheist, you would not agree or understand, which is why you keep questioning people about their trust in God. You are trying to rely on logic. Faith is built on trust. They just don't mix here.

But people seem to know different things about God -- not at all consistent. It don't sound like faith and trust -- sounds more like hope and imagination. Like God is a character in play that individual people are writing.

Sure there is religious dogma that spells out what God is, but there is not just one dogma, so it seems like there is not one God. Plus, even within the same religion, people can have their own image of God. How can you trust or believe in something that is so changeable?

Each person can determine for them self who God is and what He can do.

Then Believers need to begin each sentence with a disclaimer. "I think that Ebola is God's will." Or, "In my opinion, God will save some children and let others die." None of this "Ebola is God's will, definitive, the end, you'll see" bs. Because if even Believers cannot even agree on who God is, there is no way you can know these things for certain.

I suppose God's plan is for us believers to know and you atheists to figure out! ??

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think ppl are giving you the explanation their God gave them in their holy book, which they trust and have faith in. I don't think they're making stuff up on their own. They trust in God's plan.

Then lets see the actual scripture from said holy book rather than ad libbing.

Why do you want to see proof of it? Its their personal belief system, so they don't need to justify it or prove it.

Make up your mind. Is it their personal belief system or is it what God gave them in their holy book?

Your arguments are running in circles. Which indicates you are simply ad libbing.

Yes -- what is God's plan. If he has a holy book, the plan is in there somewhere, right?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think ppl are giving you the explanation their God gave them in their holy book, which they trust and have faith in. I don't think they're making stuff up on their own. They trust in God's plan.

Then lets see the actual scripture from said holy book rather than ad libbing.

Why do you want to see proof of it? Its their personal belief system, so they don't need to justify it or prove it.

Make up your mind. Is it their personal belief system or is it what God gave them in their holy book?

Your arguments are running in circles. Which indicates you are simply ad libbing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not that pp, but that posters view is the common view among people of faith. PP does not know. She trusts. That trust is based on faith. If you are an atheist, you would not agree or understand, which is why you keep questioning people about their trust in God. You are trying to rely on logic. Faith is built on trust. They just don't mix here.

But people seem to know different things about God -- not at all consistent. It don't sound like faith and trust -- sounds more like hope and imagination. Like God is a character in play that individual people are writing.

Sure there is religious dogma that spells out what God is, but there is not just one dogma, so it seems like there is not one God. Plus, even within the same religion, people can have their own image of God. How can you trust or believe in something that is so changeable?

Each person can determine for them self who God is and what He can do.

It sounds just like thinking for yourself. Where does God come in?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not that pp, but that posters view is the common view among people of faith. PP does not know. She trusts. That trust is based on faith. If you are an atheist, you would not agree or understand, which is why you keep questioning people about their trust in God. You are trying to rely on logic. Faith is built on trust. They just don't mix here.

But people seem to know different things about God -- not at all consistent. It don't sound like faith and trust -- sounds more like hope and imagination. Like God is a character in play that individual people are writing.

Sure there is religious dogma that spells out what God is, but there is not just one dogma, so it seems like there is not one God. Plus, even within the same religion, people can have their own image of God. How can you trust or believe in something that is so changeable?

Each person can determine for them self who God is and what He can do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think ppl are giving you the explanation their God gave them in their holy book, which they trust and have faith in. I don't think they're making stuff up on their own. They trust in God's plan.

Then lets see the actual scripture from said holy book rather than ad libbing.

Scripture! there's another problem. Not only do people rely on different scripture, but even when reading the same scripture, people interpret it differently.

Then there's the question of where did the scripture come from. As we learn more about scripture, we know that it was written by people with different agendas at different times in history. It's what people are saying about God; not what God is saying.

Ummmm, okay. To each his own.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think ppl are giving you the explanation their God gave them in their holy book, which they trust and have faith in. I don't think they're making stuff up on their own. They trust in God's plan.

Then lets see the actual scripture from said holy book rather than ad libbing.

Why do you want to see proof of it? Its their personal belief system, so they don't need to justify it or prove it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not that pp, but that posters view is the common view among people of faith. PP does not know. She trusts. That trust is based on faith. If you are an atheist, you would not agree or understand, which is why you keep questioning people about their trust in God. You are trying to rely on logic. Faith is built on trust. They just don't mix here.

But people seem to know different things about God -- not at all consistent. It [b]doesn't[b] sound like faith and trust -- sounds more like hope and imagination. Like God is a character in play that individual people are writing.

Sure there is religious dogma that spells out what God is, but there is not just one dogma, so it seems like there is not one God. Plus, even within the same religion, people can have their own image of God. How can you trust or believe in something that is so changeable?

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