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Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Yet. Lets see after 3 weeks, shall we? And well also see if a healthcare wirker at the hospital he initially went to gets it.

Love the way you make snarky comments implying people are paranoid after only 7 or so days of the guy being sick. Coearly you know more than the exoerts re: incubation period

Aren't you the one who keeps implying that the experts are "lying" to us? Today is the 13th day since he began to show symptoms and became contagious. Yes, the incubation period is 21 days and yes, they may still get sick, but you are fear-mongering plain and simple. This entire thread borders on hysteria.

I think you need to look up hysteria.

Hmm, "a situation in which many people behave or react in an extreme or uncontrolled way because of fear, anger, etc".

Yep, sounds pretty accurate to me.

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Anonymous wrote:This will be like the 1918 flu before its done...

No vaccine, no meds to treat it and highly contagious.

We can barely handle 1 case.

The flu is airborne. Ebola is not. They are nothing alike.

Ebola can be caught from surfaces. Sweat, blood, saliva, feces--it comes on so quick it's next to impossible not to be hit with the spray.

People are bleeding, shitting, sweating, puking out if every orfice. The symptoms come raging. Time is an issue. It will wipe out a bus, plane, etc if 1 or more start projectile vomiting.

Exactly what docs are saying. Ebola is a wet disease.

The CDC says that the precautions that are needed are the "wet" precautions, follow universal precautions, droplet precautions and BSI. We do the same for a lot of other diseases in US hospitals. We have the equipment. We can handle lots of these cases.

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Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Yet. Lets see after 3 weeks, shall we? And well also see if a healthcare wirker at the hospital he initially went to gets it.

Love the way you make snarky comments implying people are paranoid after only 7 or so days of the guy being sick. Coearly you know more than the exoerts re: incubation period

Aren't you the one who keeps implying that the experts are "lying" to us? Today is the 13th day since he began to show symptoms and became contagious. Yes, the incubation period is 21 days and yes, they may still get sick, but you are fear-mongering plain and simple. This entire thread borders on hysteria.

I think you need to look up hysteria.

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Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Yet. Lets see after 3 weeks, shall we? And well also see if a healthcare wirker at the hospital he initially went to gets it.

Love the way you make snarky comments implying people are paranoid after only 7 or so days of the guy being sick. Coearly you know more than the exoerts re: incubation period

Aren't you the one who keeps implying that the experts are "lying" to us? Today is the 13th day since he began to show symptoms and became contagious. Yes, the incubation period is 21 days and yes, they may still get sick, but you are fear-mongering plain and simple. This entire thread borders on hysteria.

The real question will be in 3 weeks, will we start seeing much more tangential contacts infected, such as Duncan's plane mates or folks in Dulles/IAD?

This infection of the Spanish nurse is very troubling and should not have been possible under current protocol.

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Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Well, the nurse's one exposure to the priest had to have been when he was close to death -- viral load the highest. She developed symptoms quickly -- within 5 days -- although apparently it was just a low fever for several days.

Thomas Duncan helped the pregnant woman with ebola on Sept. 15th. He didn't show symptoms until Sept. 24th. That's nine days. Maybe her viral load was less so it took longer to develop into symptoms for him?

It could take even longer -- up to 21 days -- to develop symptoms. I don't think the people in Dallas currently in quarantine are all out of the woods yet. But I hope the best for them! It's been 13 days so far.

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Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

Yet. Lets see after 3 weeks, shall we? And well also see if a healthcare wirker at the hospital he initially went to gets it.

Love the way you make snarky comments implying people are paranoid after only 7 or so days of the guy being sick. Coearly you know more than the exoerts re: incubation period

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Anonymous wrote:The Spanish nurse only entered the priest's room twice and she got infected. Why is it a big exaggeration that many people will be infected if an Ebola patient vomited in the airplane?

It's not.

And yet of the people who were living in the same apartment with Thomas Duncan, so far not a single one has shown any symptoms.

'Antonio Alemany, a health official from the regional government of Madrid, told the news conference that the nurse went on vacation a day after Father García Viejo died. She got in touch with a medical center on Sept. 30 after feeling feverish, but had been leading “a normal life” while on vacation, he added, without giving details on her whereabouts during that period.'

The above is from the NYT article. He died on the 25th. She was symptomatic on the 30th. 5 days. So if they are right about incubation period, then she was infected at either her first encounter wih him or...God forbid...through another way

The virus shed is greatest at death. Perhaps the key is in the virus load on surfaces after death and how they are handled. The journalist was helping to decontaminate a car. He got it too.

I think the life of this virus on surfaces is longer than thought an/or harder to kill. Some pps mentioned stomach flu kind of transmission. Seems likely

Yep. I was in a hospital in Madrid once (broken foot on vacation). It was nicer than most US hospitals. I'm sure we have greater specialists but in terms of hygiene, they're the same as us.

the nurse entered his room only twice, including once after his death, according to Antonio Alemany, a health official from the regional government of Madrid.

The case is particularly worrisome to health experts because Spain is a developed country that is considered to possess the kind of rigorous infection control measures that should prevent disease transmission in the hospital. Although the Ebola epidemic has killed hundreds of doctors and nurses in West Africa, health officials in Europe and the United States have reassured the public repeatedly that if the disease reached their shores, their health care systems would be able to treat patients safely, without endangering health workers or the public.

Health officials in Spain said the team (the nursed worked in) was properly equipped with protective gear, including gloves, gowns, masks and eye protection. The gear is meant to prevent exposure to bodily fluids, which spread the disease. But experts say the greatest risk comes from removing contaminated gear, which must be done according to a strict protocol to avoid infecting oneself. It takes training and practice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/world/europe/spain-reports-first-case-of-ebola-contracted-outside-west-africa.html?_r=0

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Anonymous wrote:This will be like the 1918 flu before its done...

No vaccine, no meds to treat it and highly contagious.

We can barely handle 1 case.

The flu is airborne. Ebola is not. They are nothing alike.

Ebola can be caught from surfaces. Sweat, blood, saliva, feces--it comes on so quick it's next to impossible not to be hit with the spray.

People are bleeding, shitting, sweating, puking out if every orfice. The symptoms come raging. Time is an issue. It will wipe out a bus, plane, etc if 1 or more start projectile vomiting.

Exactly what docs are saying. Ebola is a wet disease.

+1 Ebola is messy!!! Temperature checks at the airport will only catch a small% of Ebola carriers. The rest will get MESSY sick some other time during the 21 day incubation period. That could be anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will be like the 1918 flu before its done...

No vaccine, no meds to treat it and highly contagious.

We can barely handle 1 case.

The flu is airborne. Ebola is not. They are nothing alike.

Ebola can be caught from surfaces. Sweat, blood, saliva, feces--it comes on so quick it's next to impossible not to be hit with the spray.

People are bleeding, shitting, sweating, puking out if every orfice. The symptoms come raging. Time is an issue. It will wipe out a bus, plane, etc if 1 or more start projectile vomiting.

Exactly what docs are saying. Ebola is a wet disease.

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But I think it's a fair point: the world, with the exception of some NGOs here, always waits for us.