That does NOT sound like something a kid made up, but it DOES sound like something a bitchy teacher would say to a kid.

Agree--unless it is something the child has heard before. Kids can make inferences.

Anonymous wrote:It is possible--perhaps even likely--that the teacher did not say that to the child. Sometimes kids embellish. Wonder if someone has said that to the child before?

That does NOT sound like something a kid made up, but it DOES sound like something a bitchy teacher would say to a kid.

It is possible--perhaps even likely--that the teacher did not say that to the child. Sometimes kids embellish. Wonder if someone has said that to the child before?

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Anonymous wrote:She is exercising her right to free speech in the manner she sees appropriate. It is a very civil thing to do. The teacher can go to hell.

Kids don't have a right to free speech!

The teacher has a right to tell your DD not to wave but does not have a right to belittler her with "you always have to be seen, don't you." That's the kind of thing that is meant to break the spirit of a self confident, outgoing kid -- and it works, too.

OP, I would talk to the principal or your own DD's teacher about that comment. It's not okay. Also talk to your DD and let her know that the way the teacher made her feel is wrong.

+1 on all of this. That is a very cutting and inappropriate remark meant to embarrass your child in front of her peers. I remember a couple of teachers like that - harsh people who clearly didn't like kids and considered it their job (and pleasure) to diminish them. I would definitely address this with the school. It was barely a step away from publicly calling her an attention whore.

Agreed. I still remember two asshole teachers from elementary and how they thought they were funny in their ridicuke. Looking back, i see now they were hippies (this was late 60s) and understand it better. See OWS for the same bad behavior tgat's lauded amongst their own

In fifth grade i got the 'mean' teacher everyone warned me about. I loved her. She wasn't mean, she was organized and disciplined in the classroom. There were no disruptions, and she was very rewarding to students who did their work.

The teacher was out of line - saying that to a child who waved? Really? Call her out

I'd totally use this scenario as a leaning opportunity; haters will always hate. Dependent upon the age of my kid, I'd either tell the child to follow the school rules, or have a conversation with the hateful teacher to get to the bottom of it.

Anonymous wrote:If my DD came home with this story, not once but twice, I would speak with the principal or head of school about it.

If a teacher is not happy with something DD is doing, he/she should be capable of correcting DD without snide remarks. A teacher should also be able to deal with a kid waving to another kid and keep their class on task. If a teacher can only do his/her job in optimal circumstances and/or makes these kinds of remarks, I would take that as a sign the teacher a. needs some help dealing with the class/workload, b. is burnt out or c. needs to choose a different profession.

This is exactly right. I can't stand teachers like this who think it's acceptable to insult children while "disciplining" them. Nobody should tolerate it.

I would tell my daughter that she should not wave to anyone in that class.

If my DD came home with this story, not once but twice, I would speak with the principal or head of school about it.

If a teacher is not happy with something DD is doing, he/she should be capable of correcting DD without snide remarks. A teacher should also be able to deal with a kid waving to another kid and keep their class on task. If a teacher can only do his/her job in optimal circumstances and/or makes these kinds of remarks, I would take that as a sign the teacher a. needs some help dealing with the class/workload, b. is burnt out or c. needs to choose a different profession.

You seriously do not think that just maybe there is another side to that story?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you are overreacting. It's possible that your DD's waving causes disruptions when the teacher is trying to control her classroom.

If the teacher told her once not to wave, that should've been enough. If your DD did it again AFTER being told not to, then it sounds like your DD needs to learn to respect teachers and the parameters they set.

No, it is not appropriate for your DD to wave as she goes by her friend's classroom. The teacher isn't being mean.

Agreed. The teacher was blunt but not completely over the top or abusive, so she should have the support of the parents, who should reinforce her expectations and general respect for the teacher's authority over her own classroom, at home with the student. But that clearly does not happen in many homes in this area. Based on this thread and others similar to it, it is easy to see why students are increasingly showing disrespect or flat out contempt for their teachers. And we wonder why classrooms seem to be getting harder to manage, discipline problems are increasing, and our students report that the teachers have to spend too much instructional time handling student misbehavior?

+1000 I've been teaching for decades. The disrespect, the back talk, the behavior issues are staggering. When I read this scenario, I knew immediately what happened. I think most people have no idea what goes on in a classroom today.

I do. I know there are plenty of behavior problems. But waving? I see no problem with that. That teacher is a bitch.

And btw, the wave occurred while lining up on the playground, not in the building. I repeat, that teacher is a bitch.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you are overreacting. It's possible that your DD's waving causes disruptions when the teacher is trying to control her classroom.

If the teacher told her once not to wave, that should've been enough. If your DD did it again AFTER being told not to, then it sounds like your DD needs to learn to respect teachers and the parameters they set.

No, it is not appropriate for your DD to wave as she goes by her friend's classroom. The teacher isn't being mean.

Agreed. The teacher was blunt but not completely over the top or abusive, so she should have the support of the parents, who should reinforce her expectations and general respect for the teacher's authority over her own classroom, at home with the student. But that clearly does not happen in many homes in this area. Based on this thread and others similar to it, it is easy to see why students are increasingly showing disrespect or flat out contempt for their teachers. And we wonder why classrooms seem to be getting harder to manage, discipline problems are increasing, and our students report that the teachers have to spend too much instructional time handling student misbehavior?

+1000 I've been teaching for decades. The disrespect, the back talk, the behavior issues are staggering. When I read this scenario, I knew immediately what happened. I think most people have no idea what goes on in a classroom today.

I do. I know there are plenty of behavior problems. But waving? I see no problem with that. That teacher is a bitch.

Bitter, party of 1...

Nope,not burnout, poster who has no idea what teaching is today...I do not let kids run the show. Is that burn out? No,is not. If your kid was in my class, you would be happy. I am assuming your kid goes to school for an education.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you are overreacting. It's possible that your DD's waving causes disruptions when the teacher is trying to control her classroom.

If the teacher told her once not to wave, that should've been enough. If your DD did it again AFTER being told not to, then it sounds like your DD needs to learn to respect teachers and the parameters they set.

No, it is not appropriate for your DD to wave as she goes by her friend's classroom. The teacher isn't being mean.

Agreed. The teacher was blunt but not completely over the top or abusive, so she should have the support of the parents, who should reinforce her expectations and general respect for the teacher's authority over her own classroom, at home with the student. But that clearly does not happen in many homes in this area. Based on this thread and others similar to it, it is easy to see why students are increasingly showing disrespect or flat out contempt for their teachers. And we wonder why classrooms seem to be getting harder to manage, discipline problems are increasing, and our students report that the teachers have to spend too much instructional time handling student misbehavior?

+1000 I've been teaching for decades. The disrespect, the back talk, the behavior issues are staggering. When I read this scenario, I knew immediately what happened. I think most people have no idea what goes on in a classroom today.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is exercising her right to free speech in the manner she sees appropriate. It is a very civil thing to do. The teacher can go to hell.

Kids don't have a right to free speech!

The teacher has a right to tell your DD not to wave but does not have a right to belittler her with "you always have to be seen, don't you." That's the kind of thing that is meant to break the spirit of a self confident, outgoing kid -- and it works, too.

OP, I would talk to the principal or your own DD's teacher about that comment. It's not okay. Also talk to your DD and let her know that the way the teacher made her feel is wrong.

+1 on all of this. That is a very cutting and inappropriate remark meant to embarrass your child in front of her peers. I remember a couple of teachers like that - harsh people who clearly didn't like kids and considered it their job (and pleasure) to diminish them. I would definitely address this with the school. It was barely a step away from publicly calling her an attention whore.

I agree with these PPs. OP, you need to first talk to your DC's homeroom teacher, then the principal about the other teacher's comments.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you are overreacting. It's possible that your DD's waving causes disruptions when the teacher is trying to control her classroom.

If the teacher told her once not to wave, that should've been enough. If your DD did it again AFTER being told not to, then it sounds like your DD needs to learn to respect teachers and the parameters they set.

No, it is not appropriate for your DD to wave as she goes by her friend's classroom. The teacher isn't being mean.

Agreed. The teacher was blunt but not completely over the top or abusive, so she should have the support of the parents, who should reinforce her expectations and general respect for the teacher's authority over her own classroom, at home with the student. But that clearly does not happen in many homes in this area. Based on this thread and others similar to it, it is easy to see why students are increasingly showing disrespect or flat out contempt for their teachers. And we wonder why classrooms seem to be getting harder to manage, discipline problems are increasing, and our students report that the teachers have to spend too much instructional time handling student misbehavior?