Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 18:37     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Anonymous wrote:

For years we've heard and read that the is is falling far behind other developed countries in math and science. These are efforts to address that failing. And the response from parent and some teachers is that it's terrible, because it's not the way I learned/taught it. We'll, guess what? The one way wasn't working. Maybe it worked for you , but not on a grand scale. No doubt the standards will need to be tweaked, but it's a start.

And for the trashed who thinks standards are unnecessary because SHE always taught this way anyway - Jesus. Just stop.


So, you would rather make the problem worse in the name of change? Really?



No, I would rather make the problem better in the name of improvement. Which I think that the Common Core standards can do.

There was a really good, in-depth article about math teaching in the US, a while ago. Here's a link: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 18:36     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Anonymous wrote:Just curious....would you take a child who can create beautiful paintings and insist that he spend his time with a coloring book --just so you can be sure he knows how to color within the lines?


If one of the basic skills of painting were coloring within the lines, then yes, I would want to make sure that he could color within the lines.

Not that this is at all analogous to being able to explain what you're doing in math.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 17:52     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Just curious....would you take a child who can create beautiful paintings and insist that he spend his time with a coloring book --just so you can be sure he knows how to color within the lines?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 17:50     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable

For years we've heard and read that the is is falling far behind other developed countries in math and science. These are efforts to address that failing. And the response from parent and some teachers is that it's terrible, because it's not the way I learned/taught it. We'll, guess what? The one way wasn't working. Maybe it worked for you , but not on a grand scale. No doubt the standards will need to be tweaked, but it's a start.

And for the trashed who thinks standards are unnecessary because SHE always taught this way anyway - Jesus. Just stop.


So, you would rather make the problem worse in the name of change? Really?




Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 16:30     Subject: Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
For years we've heard and read that the is is falling far behind other developed countries in math and science. These are efforts to address that failing. And the response from parent and some teachers is that it's terrible, because it's not the way I learned/taught it. We'll, guess what? The one way wasn't working. Maybe it worked for you , but not on a grand scale. No doubt the standards will need to be tweaked, but it's a start.

And for the trashed who thinks standards are unnecessary because SHE always taught this way anyway - Jesus. Just stop.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 15:25     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Do you think that standards are not a good thing?


Good standards are a good thing. These standards were written with little input from classroom teachers. They have not been tested and validated. That makes them an experiment.






One that is failing my child daily.


Really how? Are we know back to I'd don't think my child should have to explain how they arrived at an answer. And I'll add, that Maryland has been teaching and testing math this way for a while, certainly well before common core was implemented.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 14:49     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I'm not interested in my kid being an experiment -- which is all Common Core. Common Core is becoming more and more hated every day. I'd keep that in mind when you tell people what a big fan your are, especially as a teacher. Shows you are just not very bright and should NOT be anywhere near kids.


+1000
I kind of suspect she works for Dept of Ed.



No, I do not work for the Department of Education. And no, the Common Core standards are not an experiment. They are standards, i.e.: here is what a child should be able to do at the end of x grade. I think that standards are a good thing. Do you think that standards are not a good thing?



I DO NOT THINK THESE STANDARDS ARE ANY DAMN GOOD AT ALL! Get it now? It's also interesting that the writers of the standards are pretty much in hiding -- or have come out against them.

Just because you put the word "standard" next to a bullshit requirement doesn't make it any good.



OK, can you please give some examples of the standards that you think are no damn good?

Here are the math standards:

http://www.corestandards.org/Math/
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 14:38     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Anonymous wrote:

Do you think that standards are not a good thing?


Good standards are a good thing. These standards were written with little input from classroom teachers. They have not been tested and validated. That makes them an experiment.






One that is failing my child daily.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 14:34     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable

Do you think that standards are not a good thing?


Good standards are a good thing. These standards were written with little input from classroom teachers. They have not been tested and validated. That makes them an experiment.




Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 14:33     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I'm not interested in my kid being an experiment -- which is all Common Core. Common Core is becoming more and more hated every day. I'd keep that in mind when you tell people what a big fan your are, especially as a teacher. Shows you are just not very bright and should NOT be anywhere near kids.


+1000
I kind of suspect she works for Dept of Ed.



No, I do not work for the Department of Education. And no, the Common Core standards are not an experiment. They are standards, i.e.: here is what a child should be able to do at the end of x grade. I think that standards are a good thing. Do you think that standards are not a good thing?



I DO NOT THINK THESE STANDARDS ARE ANY DAMN GOOD AT ALL! Get it now? It's also interesting that the writers of the standards are pretty much in hiding -- or have come out against them.

Just because you put the word "standard" next to a bullshit requirement doesn't make it any good.




Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 14:28     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Anonymous wrote:

I'm not interested in my kid being an experiment -- which is all Common Core. Common Core is becoming more and more hated every day. I'd keep that in mind when you tell people what a big fan your are, especially as a teacher. Shows you are just not very bright and should NOT be anywhere near kids.


+1000
I kind of suspect she works for Dept of Ed.



No, I do not work for the Department of Education. And no, the Common Core standards are not an experiment. They are standards, i.e.: here is what a child should be able to do at the end of x grade. I think that standards are a good thing. Do you think that standards are not a good thing?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 14:16     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable

I'm not interested in my kid being an experiment -- which is all Common Core. Common Core is becoming more and more hated every day. I'd keep that in mind when you tell people what a big fan your are, especially as a teacher. Shows you are just not very bright and should NOT be anywhere near kids.


+1000
I kind of suspect she works for Dept of Ed.




Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 14:16     Subject: Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Liberal arts applied to Math, fail
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 14:14     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

And you're the independent thinker? My opinion is the opposite: I'm the independent thinker, and you've had all the KoolAid.


No. I rely on thinking, common sense, and years of teaching experience. I am not a sheep to CC.



Hooray! I also rely on thinking, common sense, and years of teaching experience, and I think that the Common Core standards are a good thing. I'm glad that we agree.



I'm not interested in my kid being an experiment -- which is all Common Core. Common Core is becoming more and more hated every day. I'd keep that in mind when you tell people what a big fan your are, especially as a teacher. Shows you are just not very bright and should NOT be anywhere near kids.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 14:13     Subject: Re:Common Core is going to make my autistic child unemployable




Anonymous wrote:


And you're the independent thinker? My opinion is the opposite: I'm the independent thinker, and you've had all the KoolAid.


No. I rely on thinking, common sense, and years of teaching experience. I am not a sheep to CC.



Hooray! I also rely on thinking, common sense, and years of teaching experience, and I think that the Common Core standards are a good thing. I'm glad that we agree.


LOL!