Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 18:15     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:It wasn't suicide.

We killed him. We all killed him when we switched "The Crazy Ones" off.

It is about time we stepped up to the plate and started acknowledging our own culpability in this, rather than just going on about what a great guy he was.


I'm very sad about the situation but this reaction is completely ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 16:00     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regarding depression and substance abuse, it's true that many people self medicate to cope with depression. However, the reverse is also common. Alcohol, for example, causes changes in the brain that can actually cause depression. It works both ways.


True. Even if you are not "addicted" to alcohol it can change you, your behavior, and the people around you. You can still ruin your life with alcohol even if you are not an alcoholic. Robin Williams was an addict and struggled with depression. But he also caused a lot of pain for others along the way. Cheating, spreading sexually transmitted diseases, drinking and drugs. I am sure his first wife was in a lot of pain when he gave the waitress herpes and got his nanny pregnant. His years of alcohol abuse were probably difficult for his kids. And now his children are left with the pain of his suicide. It is sad that he killed himself but it is even sadder all the pain he caused others. I have a close family member who is an alcoholic and they have brought nothing but pain to our family and to themselves. This disease is self destructing for not only the suicidal depressed person but also for all the family members who are caught in their web of self destruction. So sad for everyone.


To his credit, he got sober before his first son's birth in 1983 (and after his friend's John Belushi's death in 1982) and stayed sober for 20 years. Then went to rehab in 2006 and again more recently.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 15:56     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
It wasn't suicide.

We killed him. We all killed him when we switched "The Crazy Ones" off.

It is about time we stepped up to the plate and started acknowledging our own culpability in this, rather than just going on about what a great guy he was.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 12:40     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm 19:41, and I actually am a fan. I was merely defending a PP who made a casual (not offensive) remark that she didn't particularly care for his humor. That's all.

What's the point of having a thread if all people want to post is "so sad" and "I'm shocked"?


The title states, "robin williams suicide." We are talking about his death. Please stay on topic and start another thread if you want to bash.


+1000 Some people even use death as an opportunity to belittle.


No kidding. How sad for them, indeed. Hope they are not next.

Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 12:38     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:money doesn't buy happiness or peace of mind. tragic waste of a huge talent.


Does this have to do with money or an illness? Wait, I'm confused.

I get it, we're on DCUM. We somehow HAVE to make this about money.

Loser.

Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 12:37     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:Regarding depression and substance abuse, it's true that many people self medicate to cope with depression. However, the reverse is also common. Alcohol, for example, causes changes in the brain that can actually cause depression. It works both ways.


True. Even if you are not "addicted" to alcohol it can change you, your behavior, and the people around you. You can still ruin your life with alcohol even if you are not an alcoholic. Robin Williams was an addict and struggled with depression. But he also caused a lot of pain for others along the way. Cheating, spreading sexually transmitted diseases, drinking and drugs. I am sure his first wife was in a lot of pain when he gave the waitress herpes and got his nanny pregnant. His years of alcohol abuse were probably difficult for his kids. And now his children are left with the pain of his suicide. It is sad that he killed himself but it is even sadder all the pain he caused others. I have a close family member who is an alcoholic and they have brought nothing but pain to our family and to themselves. This disease is self destructing for not only the suicidal depressed person but also for all the family members who are caught in their web of self destruction. So sad for everyone.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 12:02     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Regarding depression and substance abuse, it's true that many people self medicate to cope with depression. However, the reverse is also common. Alcohol, for example, causes changes in the brain that can actually cause depression. It works both ways.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 09:48     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So sad. He had many, many demons. He is definitely one of those comedians who used their humor and entertainment to mask deep internal pain & suffering.


Depression is not a demon. It's an illness.


Pp is talking about his drug and alcohol addictions.


Addiction is also an illness.


Typically because it is comorbid with a mood disorder or anxiety. People self-medicate and get addicted.

My friend who is in treatment for depression has decided to quit drinking. I thought her nightly glass of wine was ok, but she feels dependent on it so she's joining AA. It has really opened my eyes to how even a little alcohol can impact a life negatively.


Addiction is an illness because it causes a degeneration in physical and cognitive functioning. Addicts are physically dependent on their addiction and become sick when they don't get it. They are cognitively impaired and lose a great deal of executive functioning.

People make a choice to take the drug or drink, but when they become addicted, they are suffering from a physical and psychological disorder.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 09:35     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
I really enjoyed his movies Ms. Doubtfire, Jumanji, One Hour Photo but I could not stand to watch him when he was not acting. It was just too much and not funny.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 08:32     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So sad. He had many, many demons. He is definitely one of those comedians who used their humor and entertainment to mask deep internal pain & suffering.


Depression is not a demon. It's an illness.


Pp is talking about his drug and alcohol addictions.


Addiction is also an illness.


Typically because it is comorbid with a mood disorder or anxiety. People self-medicate and get addicted.

My friend who is in treatment for depression has decided to quit drinking. I thought her nightly glass of wine was ok, but she feels dependent on it so she's joining AA. It has really opened my eyes to how even a little alcohol can impact a life negatively.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 08:32     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dead poets society. How many of us remember that as a seminal point in our youth.


Hated that movie. Sappy.

Loved Awakenings, Good Will Hunting, and Mork and Mindy.


Yes, yes, DPS is quite sappy and melodramatic.

But we watched in our childhood or teens, and that really speaks to that age; and we all love sappy things then.

Just like I loved Knight Rider as a kid, but realize now it was probably worse for my developing brain than drinking alcohol.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 08:29     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So sad. He had many, many demons. He is definitely one of those comedians who used their humor and entertainment to mask deep internal pain & suffering.


Depression is not a demon. It's an illness.


Pp is talking about his drug and alcohol addictions.


Addiction is also an illness.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 08:12     Subject: Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So ironic that some of the most well known comedians that make us l as laugh and forget about life for a few moments are they themselves are sad and depressed inside.
Dave Chapelle had a meltdown (though fortunately didn't take his life), Phil Hartman in a murder suicide, and the list goes on.


Not to go off on a tangent, but wasn't Phil Hartman the one who was murdered?

Back on topic, so so sad to learn about Robin Williams. He truly was a comedic genius, and his talents will be greatly missed. HE will be greatly missed.

And Dave Chapelle didn't have a meltdown. He walked away from his show due to creative differences.


As someone who worked for comedy central at the time of his departure I feel compelled to comment. The media decided Dave Chapelle had a meltdown and had to flea to Ohio and never work again. The media decided he went crazy, the media decided he couldn't handle fame. It was sensationalized to the point of pure fiction. Dave Chapelle didn't like having a network show, he felt that it stifled his work and he did not like working under network rules and story lines. Dave Chapelle decided he had made enough money and took a break to raise his family. He didnt go crazy. Really irks me that story. He did a famous interview with Oprah afterwards to try and set things straight and people still decided that he "just went crazy."
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 08:05     Subject: Re:Robin Williams suicide
Anonymous wrote:
Not to go off on a tangent, but wasn't Phil Hartman the one who was murdered?


Yes, he was. By his wife who IIRC suffered from addiction and depression.


Yes, that's right, so not analogous to this situation at all.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 06:24     Subject: Re:Robin Williams suicide
Not to go off on a tangent, but wasn't Phil Hartman the one who was murdered?


Yes, he was. By his wife who IIRC suffered from addiction and depression.