Why I am anti-Hindu:

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

Then why aren't the men dressed like that too, so that they too can be so comfortable?

Devout Muslim men typically are covered. I actually find it odd that the men in the family you saw were so exposed. My childhood Muslim guy friend and his Dad would never have been without a t-shirt on the beach.

Way to miss the point.

If it's so comfortable to be covered from heat to toe -- not in a t shirt -- why aren't Muslim men covered from head to toe, whether they are devout or not? Obviously no one would choose to dress that way.

WE, Muslim women make that choice, please STOP speaking for us. I made choice to wear the hijab at the age of 25, CHOICE!!!!!! I have lived my life both uncovered and covered .I was a highly educated, independent woman living alone, woke up one day and put a scarf on my head, by my own free will, my life, my choice, please allow me that freedom. Thank you!!!

There are some women who don't want to make that choice and they are threatened because of it....that is wrong. There are Christians who do not want to convert to Islam and they are threatened and that is wrong.

I find Americans very open and tolerant compared to other places in our world. Not perfect but most of us are trying. I think if you and other Muslims want to change the perception of islam, you need to take more risks and speak out about the oppression and injustices suffered by those who do not choose Islam. I know Isis is extreme but even before Isis was around, there were muslim women who sought a different life and were denied this.

We all want peace but you can't have peace without freedoms. I have no problem with your covering. Your cartoon ignores that some women who were raised muslim do not want to cover, but they are nervous not to bc of the consequences they suffer. Where is the virtue in that?

Why I am against Judaism:

Why I am against Christianity:

Why I am against Islam:

In the Catholic Church, nuns increasingly do not wear head coverings, although all Orthodox nuns do. I am not sure of Episcopal nuns.

The whole concept of monasticism is that monastics (which includes religious sisters and nuns) undertake burdens far great than laity. They have stricter fasting rules, some may not eat meat at all, they deprive themselves of sleep to pray at various hours of the night, they live in poverty, etc. Monastics in most denominations I am familiar with live much more parsimoniously than clerics (priests). Head coverings on women are part of this abstemiousness.

Religious sisters who interact with the public now a days often do not wear habits or cover their heads to be more approachable by the laity. They still live in poverty, fast, etc.

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Didn't Christians mass murder heretics by burning them at the stake?

No.

The Spanish Inquisition executed fewer than 4,000 people in 350 years. Hardly mass murder. Stalin, Mao, and other atheistic liberal heroes would regard 4,000 deaths in one day as evidence of insufficient revolutionary zeal on the part of their executioners.

I bet they admired the Christians who managed to wipe out whole tribes all over the Americas.

Bzzzzt. The Church advocated - and actually practiced - kindness towards the indigenous people.

Try again, Christianophobe.

Oh, and what was the religion of the people who wiped out the tribes......ehhhhh, Buddhist?! (Although the Buddhists have been responsible for repression in other countries, eg, Burma) There were 50 to 100 million people in the Americas before the Christian Europeans showed up. The Spanish Christians killed lots of people. Even more died from illnesses the Christians brought with them, like smallpox. So you might argue that the Christians didn't directly wipe out the American Indian tribes but they certainly did nothing to stop it. Kind of like those Christians in Germany and Poland and elsewhere who did nothing to stop the Holocaust -- which was very convenient for them.

By the way, I'm not a Christianphobe. I admire people (Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, whomever) who are committed to their religious practice. I don't admire people who are bigoted towards others who are different from them and who help bring about conditions that lead to others' downfall. And I don't think it's wise for Christians to get into a pissing match about which religion has led to more death and disease -- because Christians would most likely be right up there among the leaders in killing and repression.

I meant to say if one reads the head covering injunctions of St. Paul IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE EPISTLE IN WHICH IT IS CONTAINED.

May God through the Holy Spirit bless us all with His presence!

Anonymous wrote:If you read the above quotation from the New Testament relating to women covering their heads, you will see that it relates specifically to women in Church. Some denominations do still encourage or require women to cover their heads in Church (some Eastern Orthodox denominations, some Protestant denominations). Covering the head in Church used to be more common (e.g., mantillas in Catholic Churches and ladies wearing hats to Church among Protestants). A very few Protestants interpret this to mean women shoukd cover their heads at all times (e.g., some denominations of Mennonites and the Amish).

Most Christians, even very conservative ones, see the head covering injunctions of St. Paul as injunctions that were made against very specific practices of the society in which he was speaking. Thus - they are not applicable today.

The whole point of Mary's pregnancy is that God entered history at a specific time and place. Mary was a woman of her time and yes she did cover her head, but that does not imply that we are required to do that. As Christians, we are not subject to the old law, but Mary was as a Jewish woman.

May God bless us all with increased understanding!

Why do the nuns cover their heads outside of church if the interpretation is its just for church? (Just curious). Thanks for the explanation btw

If you read the above quotation from the New Testament relating to women covering their heads, you will see that it relates specifically to women in Church. Some denominations do still encourage or require women to cover their heads in Church (some Eastern Orthodox denominations, some Protestant denominations). Covering the head in Church used to be more common (e.g., mantillas in Catholic Churches and ladies wearing hats to Church among Protestants). A very few Protestants interpret this to mean women shoukd cover their heads at all times (e.g., some denominations of Mennonites and the Amish).

Most Christians, even very conservative ones, see the head covering injunctions of St. Paul as injunctions that were made against very specific practices of the society in which he was speaking. Thus - they are not applicable today.

The whole point of Mary's pregnancy is that God entered history at a specific time and place. Mary was a woman of her time and yes she did cover her head, but that does not imply that we are required to do that. As Christians, we are not subject to the old law, but Mary was as a Jewish woman.

May God bless us all with increased understanding!

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Didn't Christians mass murder heretics by burning them at the stake?

No.

The Spanish Inquisition executed fewer than 4,000 people in 350 years. Hardly mass murder. Stalin, Mao, and other atheistic liberal heroes would regard 4,000 deaths in one day as evidence of insufficient revolutionary zeal on the part of their executioners.

Yeah, except the only heretics murdered weren't just put to death by the spanish inquisition. It happened all over Europe. Edward the viii used it as a pretext to divorce his wife; by heheading her for heresy.

Edward VIII abdicated the throne and was succeeded by his brother, George VI, the current queen's father.

HENRY VIII divorced his first wife, Catherine of Aragon, and married Anne Boleyn, who was later beheaded for treason, as it was falsely "proven" she had cheated on him with other men (who were also beheaded). He married 4 more times.

Good lord, learn some basic history before trying to spout off about it,

DP here. Oh don't get so snippy. The pp just reached for the wrong name. We know who she's talking about. Get a grip.

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

Then why aren't the men dressed like that too, so that they too can be so comfortable?

Devout Muslim men typically are covered. I actually find it odd that the men in the family you saw were so exposed. My childhood Muslim guy friend and his Dad would never have been without a t-shirt on the beach.

Way to miss the point.

If it's so comfortable to be covered from heat to toe -- not in a t shirt -- why aren't Muslim men covered from head to toe, whether they are devout or not? Obviously no one would choose to dress that way.

WE, Muslim women make that choice, please STOP speaking for us. I made choice to wear the hijab at the age of 25, CHOICE!!!!!! I have lived my life both uncovered and covered .I was a highly educated, independent woman living alone, woke up one day and put a scarf on my head, by my own free will, my life, my choice, please allow me that freedom. Thank you!!!

Anonymous wrote:1. The hijab helps others to distinguish who's a believer and who's not. Why then should that matter in the eyes of God whether others know my belief system? This is essentially saying that God is fine if we judge each other. divisive? I'd say yes.

Up until the end of the nineteenth century, a respectable Western woman covered her head, that was the norm. This was also true in pre-Islamic Arabia, women of a certain rank covered their hair. This verse is referring to that, asking Women to differentiate themselves, again the verse is talking to the "Believing women" . No, you cant judge people, only God can be the judge but you know better than I that we are being judged every day by how we dress. It would be am intellectual lie to deny it. Every society has a dress code. You can't show up at an interview wearing shorts and a tankini.

2. Women are less likely to ogle than men are. I love this. Because men have uncontrollable urges, rather than force them to control those urges, we force women to wear oppressive items of clothing. Only the woman's husband, brother, sons, grandsons and nephews can see her breasts (covered obviously).

wrong. Only the women's family can see her uncovered, nobody said anything about breasts. The ogle comment was mine. You can deny it as much as you want . Is it that hard to understand men are more visual than women?The porn industry doesn't exist because men get aroused by intelligence and emotional connection does it? Do you think men masturbate to thoughts of that warm conversation you just had? Or how he was able to pour his guts out to you?
Do advertisers falsely believe (through study and science!) that men's attention can be attracted using slender young attractive females? Why not just use fat frumpy women?

3. Men can walk around without a shirt, yet can't wear gold and silk. (b/c gold and silk are flashy on men? draw attention to them?)

The because comment is your interpretation. Men don't wear gold and silk because that's what the Prophet saw said, rust honor was given to women. Why? We don't know but can guess it had to do with humility.

I appreciate the effort you put into your posts, but in 2014, I certainly put no faith in the "wisdom" found in an ancient text.

And that's your right to believe that and my right to believe otherwise and that's what makes me a Muslim, it is a choice!

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

Then why aren't the men dressed like that too, so that they too can be so comfortable?

Devout Muslim men typically are covered. I actually find it odd that the men in the family you saw were so exposed. My childhood Muslim guy friend and his Dad would never have been without a t-shirt on the beach.

Way to miss the point.

If it's so comfortable to be covered from heat to toe -- not in a t shirt -- why aren't Muslim men covered from head to toe, whether they are devout or not? Obviously no one would choose to dress that way.

Anonymous wrote:The Christian view on this comment from one of the preceding posters:

It is true that men don’t have to cover their heads, but there is a dress code for them, as well. Men must at least be covered from the navel to the knees with loose fitting clothing. The rules for men are different because women are less likely to ogle men than the other way around. Men also shouldn't cut their beards.

According to Our Lord:

If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell. Matthew 5:29-30

Here we see that it is the responsibility of each individual (male or female) to control his or her own urges. If I am "ogling" a member of the opposite sex, I need to work on myself, not expect the object of my ogling to fix him or herself.

I pray for all of us that, with the Lord's help, we can take responsibility for our own actions.

Maybe you missed the verse from the Quran that I cited but you can go back and read my previous post it starts with men by asking men to lower their gaze and guard their modesty. It's not the Duty of a woman to make sure the man doesn't ogle at her.

Also the Bible asks women to cover their hair as well and says : "if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head." So why don't Christian women cover their hair?