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Anonymous wrote:OMG people, IUDs today are so safe that even women who have not had children yet are using them. The only risk of pelvic inflammatory disease is if you have an active STD when it's inserted. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/4/gpr100419.html

A lot has changed since we were young and the Dalkon Shield scandal happened. IUDs today do not cause PID.

+1 This.
People are just making excuses for being lazy. I agree this thread is a real eye opener. I'm amazed at how cavalier folks are about this.

I am another person who had to go through ICSI in order to get pregnant. Docs explained to us that without ICSI, our chances of pregnancy were waaay less than 1%.
We were blessed with healthy twins.

DH and I did not ever, not ONCE after the babies were born have sex until I had my (wonderful, awesome, love it) Mirena IUD in place. We didn't go vasectomy route "just in case"--we wanted the ability to keep our options open. What will likely happen is that I will continue to use IUD until we have 100% total confirmation of menopause.

I'm sure some of you think I am being paranoid, but it really took very little effort on our part, and now I don't have to spend any time thinking about it, and I have now effectively reduced my chance of unplanned pregnancy from less than 1%

It's one thing if you honestly want and are ready to take on more kids, and recognize that you are opening yourself up to that possibility each and every time they have unprotected sex. But the folks that just think "it won't happen to them?" Agree with PPs that you are ridiculous.

IUDs can actually be risky. My chances of hanging on to another one are not very good and it caused a lot of issues while I had it.

I was the PP who freely admitted to being lazy about bc. If I got pregnant, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Please cite statistics. They are one of the lowest-risk BC methods.

Also, if you're really against IUDs for some irrational reason, you can still do essure or get a tubal ligation.

If you're okay with being pregnant, well, I guess your laziness is at least somewhat justified. But lots of 40-somethings aren't okay with it.

Mirena side effects: http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/datasheet/m/Mirenaius.pdf

I said they can be risky. I dealt with emergency bleeding (4 tampons/hr), severe cramping, migraines and expulsion, plus I bled for the whole 10 weeks I had it.

I'm not ready to permanently get rid of my fertility.

Loved, loved, loved my Mirena! It hurt at first and I had some bleeding the first few months, then NO periods at all and lots of carefree sex. It was like I wasn't using any birth control at all.

I was hoping for that kind of luck too when I got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Tubal ligation at 42 pregnant at 48.

You just described my worst nightmare.

Mine too. I got a tubal at 43, after my surprise baby, and sweated out the next decade.

A lot of women listen to all the sensational stuff from media doctors about how fertility drops to almost nil in the forties. Surprise baby happened to me, in spite of using a condom, and at a time when according to my cycle, I shouldn't have been anywhere near ovulation. Don't rely on natural family planning in your forties, ladies. The ovaries throw some Hail Mary eggs at random times.

Haha, I love this.

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Anonymous wrote:We use natural family planning, so no need for artificial birth control.

This is a bad idea. As you get closer to menopause your cycles will get more irregular and the effectiveness of nfp will drastically decrease. Plus it means you can't have sex when you are horniest. Hopefully your religion provides enough solace to make up for it!

My husband did it with two of his kids... oops.

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Anonymous wrote:Tubal ligation at 42 pregnant at 48.

Wow!

I mean congrats!

Perhaps congrats are not in order.

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Anonymous wrote:Tubal ligation at 42 pregnant at 48.

Wow!

I mean congrats!

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Anonymous wrote:OMG people, IUDs today are so safe that even women who have not had children yet are using them. The only risk of pelvic inflammatory disease is if you have an active STD when it's inserted. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/4/gpr100419.html

A lot has changed since we were young and the Dalkon Shield scandal happened. IUDs today do not cause PID.

+1 This.
People are just making excuses for being lazy. I agree this thread is a real eye opener. I'm amazed at how cavalier folks are about this.

I am another person who had to go through ICSI in order to get pregnant. Docs explained to us that without ICSI, our chances of pregnancy were waaay less than 1%.
We were blessed with healthy twins.

DH and I did not ever, not ONCE after the babies were born have sex until I had my (wonderful, awesome, love it) Mirena IUD in place. We didn't go vasectomy route "just in case"--we wanted the ability to keep our options open. What will likely happen is that I will continue to use IUD until we have 100% total confirmation of menopause.

I'm sure some of you think I am being paranoid, but it really took very little effort on our part, and now I don't have to spend any time thinking about it, and I have now effectively reduced my chance of unplanned pregnancy from less than 1%

It's one thing if you honestly want and are ready to take on more kids, and recognize that you are opening yourself up to that possibility each and every time they have unprotected sex. But the folks that just think "it won't happen to them?" Agree with PPs that you are ridiculous.

IUDs can actually be risky. My chances of hanging on to another one are not very good and it caused a lot of issues while I had it.

I was the PP who freely admitted to being lazy about bc. If I got pregnant, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Please cite statistics. They are one of the lowest-risk BC methods.

Also, if you're really against IUDs for some irrational reason, you can still do essure or get a tubal ligation.

If you're okay with being pregnant, well, I guess your laziness is at least somewhat justified. But lots of 40-somethings aren't okay with it.

Mirena side effects: http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/datasheet/m/Mirenaius.pdf

I said they can be risky. I dealt with emergency bleeding (4 tampons/hr), severe cramping, migraines and expulsion, plus I bled for the whole 10 weeks I had it.

I'm not ready to permanently get rid of my fertility.

Loved, loved, loved my Mirena! It hurt at first and I had some bleeding the first few months, then NO periods at all and lots of carefree sex. It was like I wasn't using any birth control at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Tubal ligation at 42 pregnant at 48.

You just described my worst nightmare.

Mine too. I got a tubal at 43, after my surprise baby, and sweated out the next decade.

A lot of women listen to all the sensational stuff from media doctors about how fertility drops to almost nil in the forties. Surprise baby happened to me, in spite of using a condom, and at a time when according to my cycle, I shouldn't have been anywhere near ovulation. Don't rely on natural family planning in your forties, ladies. The ovaries throw some Hail Mary eggs at random times.

Anonymous wrote:Tubal ligation at 42 pregnant at 48.

You just described my worst nightmare.

Anonymous wrote:Tubal ligation at 42 pregnant at 48.

Wow!

"Until you go through menopause, you can get pregnant!"

Not accurate. Peri-menopause is generally a 8-10 year period. At some point, a woman's FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) is going to get so high that statistically there is a 0% chance of her getting pregnant. But that doesn't mean she's in menopause - she could, like me, be getting regular monthly periods and these could continue for years. I've had diminished ovarian reserve for 6 years, still get regular periods, and given my family history expect to keep getting them for another 5 years or so. But I have no expectation of getting pregnant. (Although, like others who struggled with infertility, certainly would be happy if I did).

Now, it is true that some women have a very short period of time between having these high FSH levels and being in menopause - those tend to be the ones who get the "surprise oops" at age 45 or 46, and then hit menopause as soon as they stop breastfeeding. But other women, especially those with DOR, go for very long periods of time between being infertile and menopause.

You're damn right I'm using birth control in my 40s. I had PCOS and my husband had 1% morphology. We adopted instead of doing IVF (previous IUI tries had failed) and wouldn't you know, I got pregnant a few months after we adopted, after having years of unprotected sex. It may have been an anomaly, but in any case, our family is done and therefore we'll use birth control, even if it feels like a waste of money.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG people, IUDs today are so safe that even women who have not had children yet are using them. The only risk of pelvic inflammatory disease is if you have an active STD when it's inserted. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/4/gpr100419.html

A lot has changed since we were young and the Dalkon Shield scandal happened. IUDs today do not cause PID.

+1 This.
People are just making excuses for being lazy. I agree this thread is a real eye opener. I'm amazed at how cavalier folks are about this.

I am another person who had to go through ICSI in order to get pregnant. Docs explained to us that without ICSI, our chances of pregnancy were waaay less than 1%.
We were blessed with healthy twins.

DH and I did not ever, not ONCE after the babies were born have sex until I had my (wonderful, awesome, love it) Mirena IUD in place. We didn't go vasectomy route "just in case"--we wanted the ability to keep our options open. What will likely happen is that I will continue to use IUD until we have 100% total confirmation of menopause.

I'm sure some of you think I am being paranoid, but it really took very little effort on our part, and now I don't have to spend any time thinking about it, and I have now effectively reduced my chance of unplanned pregnancy from less than 1%

It's one thing if you honestly want and are ready to take on more kids, and recognize that you are opening yourself up to that possibility each and every time they have unprotected sex. But the folks that just think "it won't happen to them?" Agree with PPs that you are ridiculous.

IUDs can actually be risky. My chances of hanging on to another one are not very good and it caused a lot of issues while I had it.

I was the PP who freely admitted to being lazy about bc. If I got pregnant, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Please cite statistics. They are one of the lowest-risk BC methods.

Also, if you're really against IUDs for some irrational reason, you can still do essure or get a tubal ligation.

If you're okay with being pregnant, well, I guess your laziness is at least somewhat justified. But lots of 40-somethings aren't okay with it.

Mirena side effects: http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/datasheet/m/Mirenaius.pdf

I said they can be risky. I dealt with emergency bleeding (4 tampons/hr), severe cramping, migraines and expulsion, plus I bled for the whole 10 weeks I had it.

I'm not ready to permanently get rid of my fertility.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG people, IUDs today are so safe that even women who have not had children yet are using them. The only risk of pelvic inflammatory disease is if you have an active STD when it's inserted. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/4/gpr100419.html

A lot has changed since we were young and the Dalkon Shield scandal happened. IUDs today do not cause PID.

+1 This.
People are just making excuses for being lazy. I agree this thread is a real eye opener. I'm amazed at how cavalier folks are about this.

I am another person who had to go through ICSI in order to get pregnant. Docs explained to us that without ICSI, our chances of pregnancy were waaay less than 1%.
We were blessed with healthy twins.

DH and I did not ever, not ONCE after the babies were born have sex until I had my (wonderful, awesome, love it) Mirena IUD in place. We didn't go vasectomy route "just in case"--we wanted the ability to keep our options open. What will likely happen is that I will continue to use IUD until we have 100% total confirmation of menopause.

I'm sure some of you think I am being paranoid, but it really took very little effort on our part, and now I don't have to spend any time thinking about it, and I have now effectively reduced my chance of unplanned pregnancy from less than 1%

It's one thing if you honestly want and are ready to take on more kids, and recognize that you are opening yourself up to that possibility each and every time they have unprotected sex. But the folks that just think "it won't happen to them?" Agree with PPs that you are ridiculous.

IUDs can actually be risky. My chances of hanging on to another one are not very good and it caused a lot of issues while I had it.

I was the PP who freely admitted to being lazy about bc. If I got pregnant, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Please cite statistics. They are one of the lowest-risk BC methods.

Also, if you're really against IUDs for some irrational reason, you can still do essure or get a tubal ligation.

If you're okay with being pregnant, well, I guess your laziness is at least somewhat justified. But lots of 40-somethings aren't okay with it.

Everything is a risk vs. reward. Only 1/1000 chance of my uterus being perforated. Hmmm....

from webmd....

Risks of using an intrauterine device (IUD) include:

Menstrual problems. The copper IUD may increase menstrual bleeding or cramps. Women may also experience spotting between periods. The hormonal IUD may reduce menstrual cramps and bleeding.1
Perforation. In 1 out of 1,000 women, the IUD will get stuck in or puncture (perforate) the uterus.1 Although perforation is rare, it almost always occurs during insertion. The IUD should be removed if the uterus has been perforated.
Expulsion. About 2 to 10 out of 100 IUDs are pushed out (expelled) from the uterus into the vagina during the first year. This usually happens in the first few months of use. Expulsion is more likely when the IUD is inserted right after childbirth or in a woman who has not carried a pregnancy.1 When an IUD has been expelled, you are no longer protected against pregnancy.
Disadvantages of IUDs include the high cost of insertion, no protection against STIs, and the need to be removed by a doctor.

Disadvantages of the hormonal IUD
The hormonal IUD may cause noncancerous (benign) growths called ovarian cysts, which usually go away on their own.

The hormonal IUD can cause hormonal side effects similar to those caused by oral contraceptives, such as breast tenderness, mood swings, headaches, and acne. This is rare. When side effects do happen, they usually go away after the first few months.

Pregnancy with an IUD
If you become pregnant with an IUD in place, your doctor will recommend that the IUD be removed. This is because the IUD can cause miscarriage or preterm birth (the IUD will not cause birth defects).

Because I'm too scared to "try" to get pregnant at my age.

But if it were to happen accidentally, I would think it was meant to be and I'd be pleased as punch. (Albeit a little terrified!)

Because after 9 IVFs with no pregnancies (4 OE, 5 DE) and one treatment during the last DE cycle for immune issues it doesn't seem likely that I will get pregnant on my own at 46. I still get a period so if by some miracle I did get pregnant with a healthy, viable pregnancy we would be happy.