Anonymous wrote:I think the sexy black man attracting the white woman has been a thing for a lot longer than mass media has had positive portrayals of black men. So I'm not sure the media is the culprit here.

Actually it has. Black men have always been stereotyped as aggressive and very physical, which are masculine traits. They were also rumored to be well endowed. Asian men are known for what? Being good in math? "Small"?

Anonymous wrote:I think the sexy black man attracting the white woman has been a thing for a lot longer than mass media has had positive portrayals of black men. So I'm not sure the media is the culprit here.

Agreed, my Irish great grandmother married my AA great grandfather when interracial marriages were still illegal. He must have been quite the catch.

I think the sexy black man attracting the white woman has been a thing for a lot longer than mass media has had positive portrayals of black men. So I'm not sure the media is the culprit here.

Hank Greenberg, Sandy Koufax, and Mark Spitz wimpy?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow a lot of you don't find Asian men attractive, neither do I honestly. Wonder if it is because they don't seem very masculine.

Yes, it's cultural.

Cultural to be wimps? Why is that?

They are raised to be smart, industrious, rule followers. Working hard and playing by the rules isn't sexy in our culture. (I don't know enough about other cultures to say whether this is universal or just some sort of pathology of the American woman.)

Oh please. If you were soaked in East Asian pop culture you would start to find them hot. You've just been conditioned by mass media. AA men are just not represented in movies, film, etc. and certainly not as leading men when they are. You grow up seeing emasculated characters for AA men, and you wonder why these guys don't turn you on.

As a previous poster said, go live in South Korea for a few years. Those guys are very masculine, even when they are bagging your groceries. Korean men are definitely not wimps. They drink like fish, stoic, very old-school in culture. Kind of like Italian men, with an Irish love of the booze. When they are drunk, they are often weepy too, like Jews are when sober.

The bad ones can go overboard and be sexist, in that "women have no place in the workplace" kind of way.

Jews used to be thought of as "wimpy" for the same reasons, until you saw pictures of those Israeli soldiers packing heat in fatigues (I'm not Jewish, not trying to start anything about Middle East policies, just on how certain men are portrayed). Jewish guys are also now getting more exposure too in pop culture, without having to hide their ethnicity like in decades past.

Huh??

Yes, I think context matters when it comes to hot vs. wimpy perceptions of certain ethnic groups.

I find Israeli military men hot, but not the frummy guys I see walking to shul on Georgia Avenue. Surely the same genetic group in broad terms? I have a bit of a uniform fetish though.

The pudgy, bespectacled Asian math TAs in my college days: Not hot. The 30-something 5'11" Chinese lifeguard at the pool last summer: Smokin'.

Middle height, middle-aged Italian American cops: pretty hot. Middle height, middle-aged Italian American apartment manager: no (and I think he knows it because he always looks so sad).

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Anonymous wrote:Wow a lot of you don't find Asian men attractive, neither do I honestly. Wonder if it is because they don't seem very masculine.

Yes, it's cultural.

Cultural to be wimps? Why is that?

They are raised to be smart, industrious, rule followers. Working hard and playing by the rules isn't sexy in our culture. (I don't know enough about other cultures to say whether this is universal or just some sort of pathology of the American woman.)

PP here who's white married to an Asian. I guess people who like white men in America are equating "sexy" with "macho"? In my experience, white men are so full of macho bullshit that they are next to impossible to be with. My DH is very masculine in a way that doesn't require him to posture and act like a ridiculous, insecure masculine caricature like most white men I've dated. Because it's so "masculine" to insult women, drive super fast, play video games all the time, and pretend to hate being in a stable relationship. Ugh, just thinking of my experiences dating white guys makes me groan -- it was like dating 30-year-olds who were perpetually mentally 14.

+1 My DH is white (European) but not macho in the typical sense. The other day, we were at a restaurant, and he was putting leftovers in the container. As I watched his arms complete this task, I found him so sexy. I don't know why. Just watching his arms and being caring of his family turned me on. Yep, we did it that nite

I also find him sexy when he is hot and sweaty cleaning out the garage, shoveling dirt in the garden, etc. It's those "macho" things like taking care of his family/house that I find sexy, not the stupid macho stuff...however, DH does like to drive aggressively.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow a lot of you don't find Asian men attractive, neither do I honestly. Wonder if it is because they don't seem very masculine.

Yes, it's cultural.

Cultural to be wimps? Why is that?

They are raised to be smart, industrious, rule followers. Working hard and playing by the rules isn't sexy in our culture. (I don't know enough about other cultures to say whether this is universal or just some sort of pathology of the American woman.)

Oh please. If you were soaked in East Asian pop culture you would start to find them hot. You've just been conditioned by mass media. AA men are just not represented in movies, film, etc. and certainly not as leading men when they are. You grow up seeing emasculated characters for AA men, and you wonder why these guys don't turn you on.

As a previous poster said, go live in South Korea for a few years. Those guys are very masculine, even when they are bagging your groceries. Korean men are definitely not wimps. They drink like fish, stoic, very old-school in culture. Kind of like Italian men, with an Irish love of the booze. When they are drunk, they are often weepy too, like Jews are when sober.

The bad ones can go overboard and be sexist, in that "women have no place in the workplace" kind of way.

Jews used to be thought of as "wimpy" for the same reasons, until you saw pictures of those Israeli soldiers packing heat in fatigues (I'm not Jewish, not trying to start anything about Middle East policies, just on how certain men are portrayed). Jewish guys are also now getting more exposure too in pop culture, without having to hide their ethnicity like in decades past.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I'm blonde blue eyes and only attracted to Caucasians. I don't care if I get flamed, but I want my kids to look like me (Scandinavian descent) and only dated people who wouldn't have super dominant genes. I'm not racist and have no problem with anyone daring whoever they want. For me it was just a preference.

Funny. I'm blond/blue, too and those are the weaker traits. More prone to skin cancer etc. Married an Arab guy. Very glad my son has darker skin than me.

Weird how genes work. I'm Asian and married to a blond, blue-eyed man of Scottish descent. Our child is the spitting image of his dad; the only thing he got from me is a more olive complexion, as opposed to the ruddy, yet pale Scottish complexion my husband was blessed with. I've seen other half Asian/half white kids with almost blonde hair and blue eyes too. It happens.

Oh yes, it does happen. I didn't mean to imply I married to have darker skinned kids or assumed it would be the case. I'm Scottish/Dutch, and EVERYONE in my extended family has had skin cancer. I didn't care what my kid looked like, but I'm grateful he's got more natural protection than my family. (Yes he still uses sunscreen).

Weird gene poster you're responding to- sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you were implying.... I was more referring to the Scandinavian poster just to say that her blonde blue eyes can still come out the winners even with more dominant genes. But what I'm wondering is if she'd only marry another blond blue eyed white person?

Genes are weird. My younger DD doesn't look like the mix she is. We hear Pakistani or Indian a lot. My childhood neighbors included a family in which both parents were blond blue eyed whites with the kind of tanned skin that is reddened not brown and 5 brunette, brown-eyed, olive-skinned children who looked like mixed AA/white. Everyone was curious, but no one said thing. We were all scared. The kids and parents were tough customers even for our low SES West Baltimore neighborhood. The oldest girl had a baby when she was in high school and that baby was so pale, it was translucent. White eyelashes. Not an albino.

I'm black and married to a black/asian husband. I think there are fine men of all races therefore I've always been open to men of all races, black, white, asian, whatever. I do love East Asian men too. I dated a Chinese guy before DH and I think Korean men are hot too. I had a tutor in grad school that was Korean, super smart and super fine. I always had a hard time concentrating when he was tutoring me. I think white and Latino men are attractive also, but prefer the darker variety especially Italian or Greek men.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I'm blonde blue eyes and only attracted to Caucasians. I don't care if I get flamed, but I want my kids to look like me (Scandinavian descent) and only dated people who wouldn't have super dominant genes. I'm not racist and have no problem with anyone daring whoever they want. For me it was just a preference.

Funny. I'm blond/blue, too and those are the weaker traits. More prone to skin cancer etc. Married an Arab guy. Very glad my son has darker skin than me.

Weird how genes work. I'm Asian and married to a blond, blue-eyed man of Scottish descent. Our child is the spitting image of his dad; the only thing he got from me is a more olive complexion, as opposed to the ruddy, yet pale Scottish complexion my husband was blessed with. I've seen other half Asian/half white kids with almost blonde hair and blue eyes too. It happens.

Oh yes, it does happen. I didn't mean to imply I married to have darker skinned kids or assumed it would be the case. I'm Scottish/Dutch, and EVERYONE in my extended family has had skin cancer. I didn't care what my kid looked like, but I'm grateful he's got more natural protection than my family. (Yes he still uses sunscreen).

Weird gene poster you're responding to- sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you were implying.... I was more referring to the Scandinavian poster just to say that her blonde blue eyes can still come out the winners even with more dominant genes. But what I'm wondering is if she'd only marry another blond blue eyed white person?

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Anonymous wrote:No. I'm blonde blue eyes and only attracted to Caucasians. I don't care if I get flamed, but I want my kids to look like me (Scandinavian descent) and only dated people who wouldn't have super dominant genes. I'm not racist and have no problem with anyone daring whoever they want. For me it was just a preference.

Funny. I'm blond/blue, too and those are the weaker traits. More prone to skin cancer etc. Married an Arab guy. Very glad my son has darker skin than me.

Weird how genes work. I'm Asian and married to a blond, blue-eyed man of Scottish descent. Our child is the spitting image of his dad; the only thing he got from me is a more olive complexion, as opposed to the ruddy, yet pale Scottish complexion my husband was blessed with. I've seen other half Asian/half white kids with almost blonde hair and blue eyes too. It happens.

Oh yes, it does happen. I didn't mean to imply I married to have darker skinned kids or assumed it would be the case. I'm Scottish/Dutch, and EVERYONE in my extended family has had skin cancer. I didn't care what my kid looked like, but I'm grateful he's got more natural protection than my family. (Yes he still uses sunscreen).

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Anonymous wrote:Wow a lot of you don't find Asian men attractive, neither do I honestly. Wonder if it is because they don't seem very masculine.

Yes, it's cultural.

Cultural to be wimps? Why is that?

They are raised to be smart, industrious, rule followers. Working hard and playing by the rules isn't sexy in our culture. (I don't know enough about other cultures to say whether this is universal or just some sort of pathology of the American woman.)

PP here who's white married to an Asian. I guess people who like white men in America are equating "sexy" with "macho"? In my experience, white men are so full of macho bullshit that they are next to impossible to be with. My DH is very masculine in a way that doesn't require him to posture and act like a ridiculous, insecure masculine caricature like most white men I've dated. Because it's so "masculine" to insult women, drive super fast, play video games all the time, and pretend to hate being in a stable relationship. Ugh, just thinking of my experiences dating white guys makes me groan -- it was like dating 30-year-olds who were perpetually mentally 14.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow a lot of you don't find Asian men attractive, neither do I honestly. Wonder if it is because they don't seem very masculine.

Yes, it's cultural.

Cultural to be wimps? Why is that?

They are raised to be smart, industrious, rule followers. Working hard and playing by the rules isn't sexy in our culture. (I don't know enough about other cultures to say whether this is universal or just some sort of pathology of the American woman.)

Like on Seinfeld , only 5% of the population is dateable. Fortunately for me I'm in the 5%.