Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Having just done our taxes, this thread is a real eye-opener. And a little depressing. HHI=$78k. We gave appx. $1,200 last year, of which $500 was to our church. Surprised at the higher earners here who hoard.
Who are you to say what is hoarding and what isn't? I was one of the higher HHI posters above - If I am maxing out my kid's 529 instead of donating to charity am I hoarding? If I take my kid on a great vacation a couple of times a year instead of donating is that hoarding? What if I want to go out to dinner a couple of times a week?
This thread is eye opening in both directions but the end result is that it's YOUR MONEY. Do whatever you want with it. Don't judge me by doing what I want with it. Last I checked, the government makes mandatory demands on my money and seems redistribute that in any way they choose - beyond that keep your judgmental opinions to yourself.
Anonymous wrote:Having just done our taxes, this thread is a real eye-opener. And a little depressing. HHI=$78k. We gave appx. $1,200 last year, of which $500 was to our church. Surprised at the higher earners here who hoard.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama put a stop to my donations.
Me too since he has been president. Given his history of lack of charitable donations before he ran for president, he is someone who thinks to take other people's money to help the poor but not his. He only started donating 15-20-ish percent since 2008. I find that hypocritical and disgusting which is why I can't stand to even look at the guy on t.v.
When then-presidential candidate Obama released his tax returns during the 2008 campaign, it was revealed that he began making significant gifts to charity after he started making serious money from his books — and after he decided to run for president.
Here’s what the numbers look like:
2005: $77,315 to charity out of income of $1.66 million (4.6 percent)
2004: $2,500 out of $207,647 (1.2 percent)
2003: $3,400 out of $238,327 (1.4 percent)
2002: $1,050 out of $259,394 (0.4 percent)
Since he doesn't need to be re-elected anymore, his donations dropped from 22% down to 12%. He's pathetic.
So, when he suddenly had an enormous amount of income - 5 times what he previously earned - he had more available to donate? What is your point here?
No - it's when he decided to run for the presidency that he gave a miserly 4.6 of his income to charity. For someone who thinks the poor and lazy people in this country deserve more of other people's money, he certainly doesn't lead by example except when he needs to get elected. I know it's hard for His supporters to see that, how sad.
Or, he donated more money when their HHI went up 8 fold just like most people would in their circumstances.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama put a stop to my donations.
Me too since he has been president. Given his history of lack of charitable donations before he ran for president, he is someone who thinks to take other people's money to help the poor but not his. He only started donating 15-20-ish percent since 2008. I find that hypocritical and disgusting which is why I can't stand to even look at the guy on t.v.
When then-presidential candidate Obama released his tax returns during the 2008 campaign, it was revealed that he began making significant gifts to charity after he started making serious money from his books — and after he decided to run for president.
Here’s what the numbers look like:
2005: $77,315 to charity out of income of $1.66 million (4.6 percent)
2004: $2,500 out of $207,647 (1.2 percent)
2003: $3,400 out of $238,327 (1.4 percent)
2002: $1,050 out of $259,394 (0.4 percent)
So, when he suddenly had an enormous amount of income - 5 times what he previously earned - he had more available to donate? What is your point here?
No - it's when he decided to run for the presidency that he gave a miserly 4.6 of his income to charity. For someone who thinks the poor and lazy people in this country deserve more of other people's money, he certainly doesn't lead by example except when he needs to get elected. I know it's hard for His supporters to see that, how sad.
Anonymous wrote:It is not an opinion. Conservatives give much much more to charity. Probably bc they go to church more.
Anonymous wrote:900K
This year it was a few hundred dollars.
Not good, but we don't belong to a church, our alma maters are already rich, and we are really busy with little kids. I am not sure how to go about giving more, so I just make the same donations to schools/NPR/public television that I did when I was a grad student.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow. This thread is a real eye-opener.
So many people with so much money that are so unwilling to help others with charitable giving - and seem to be so resentful that anyone would even suggest that they could maybe give a little bit more.
I'm at $160K HHI, $3K donations - which I've often though was too low. But apparently I'm quite generous with my giving compared to many DCUMers. And yes, I have kids, and medical costs, and housing costs, and, like everyone else, need to save for retirement and college.
The people who quit giving because "Obummer"? Are you the same people who say we should cut government and let private charities fill the gap?
The more I think about it, the more sick reading this thread makes me feel. There's thousands of hungry children in the DC area. Would it kill any of you high-income earners to make a donation to your local food bank?
The thing is, and I know this may be difficult for you to understand...I just don't care what you or anyone thinks about how or where I spend my money. I don't give funds to any charities and I have my reasons. I do provide financial support for people I know who have outrageous medical bills, or aren't able to save for college or pay for private school due to circumstances beyond their control.
Having seen first hand how many non profits are run by clueless people, I have no desire to hand over money to them. I didn't get to my net worth by being a dummy nor did I get here because I'm not a generous person.
It's not difficult for me to understand. You're a cheap, ungrateful, son-of-a-b****. Of course you don't care. If you cared, you'd be a more decent person.
I hope that someday you'll see clear to being a little more charitable toward your fellow man.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow. This thread is a real eye-opener.
So many people with so much money that are so unwilling to help others with charitable giving - and seem to be so resentful that anyone would even suggest that they could maybe give a little bit more.
I'm at $160K HHI, $3K donations - which I've often though was too low. But apparently I'm quite generous with my giving compared to many DCUMers. And yes, I have kids, and medical costs, and housing costs, and, like everyone else, need to save for retirement and college.
The people who quit giving because "Obummer"? Are you the same people who say we should cut government and let private charities fill the gap?
The more I think about it, the more sick reading this thread makes me feel. There's thousands of hungry children in the DC area. Would it kill any of you high-income earners to make a donation to your local food bank?
The thing is, and I know this may be difficult for you to understand...I just don't care what you or anyone thinks about how or where I spend my money. I don't give funds to any charities and I have my reasons. I do provide financial support for people I know who have outrageous medical bills, or aren't able to save for college or pay for private school due to circumstances beyond their control.
Having seen first hand how many non profits are run by clueless people, I have no desire to hand over money to them. I didn't get to my net worth by being a dummy nor did I get here because I'm not a generous person.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama put a stop to my donations.
Me too since he has been president. Given his history of lack of charitable donations before he ran for president, he is someone who thinks to take other people's money to help the poor but not his. He only started donating 15-20-ish percent since 2008. I find that hypocritical and disgusting which is why I can't stand to even look at the guy on t.v.
When then-presidential candidate Obama released his tax returns during the 2008 campaign, it was revealed that he began making significant gifts to charity after he started making serious money from his books — and after he decided to run for president.
Here’s what the numbers look like:
2005: $77,315 to charity out of income of $1.66 million (4.6 percent)
2004: $2,500 out of $207,647 (1.2 percent)
2003: $3,400 out of $238,327 (1.4 percent)
2002: $1,050 out of $259,394 (0.4 percent)
You have too much time on your hands. I don't care what he gives. I don't care what he makes. I don't care what you give or what you make. See. Simple.
So, when he suddenly had an enormous amount of income - 5 times what he previously earned - he had more available to donate? What is your point here?
No - it's when he decided to run for the presidency that he gave a miserly 4.6 of his income to charity. For someone who thinks the poor and lazy people in this country deserve more of other people's money, he certainly doesn't lead by example except when he needs to get elected. I know it's hard for His supporters to see that, how sad.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama put a stop to my donations.
Me too since he has been president. Given his history of lack of charitable donations before he ran for president, he is someone who thinks to take other people's money to help the poor but not his. He only started donating 15-20-ish percent since 2008. I find that hypocritical and disgusting which is why I can't stand to even look at the guy on t.v.
When then-presidential candidate Obama released his tax returns during the 2008 campaign, it was revealed that he began making significant gifts to charity after he started making serious money from his books — and after he decided to run for president.
Here’s what the numbers look like:
2005: $77,315 to charity out of income of $1.66 million (4.6 percent)
2004: $2,500 out of $207,647 (1.2 percent)
2003: $3,400 out of $238,327 (1.4 percent)
2002: $1,050 out of $259,394 (0.4 percent)
So, when he suddenly had an enormous amount of income - 5 times what he previously earned - he had more available to donate? What is your point here?