Anonymous
Post 04/04/2014 17:35     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Agreed ^^ penn state is by far the worst event ever to transpire among a university administration in the history of the United States .
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2014 17:32     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn State...
What kind of school covers up 20 years of pedophilia in the locker room to win a football game. Then doesn't suspend the program?

Anybody who goes there after the "atrocity" I personally regard as deficient either mentally or morally.


Like many things, it's all about the money. Football is an important money maker for schools. Having a winning team can bring broadcast, merchandise and alumni money. These can fund better athletic and academic programs, equipment, teachers and facilities which attract more applicants and better students. The students go out and get good jobs and support the school with more donations. People often look the other way when it comes to money.


In most cases it could be forgivable . This however is too horrible to accept. Just disgusting and horrific.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2014 15:21     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Anonymous wrote:Penn State...
What kind of school covers up 20 years of pedophilia in the locker room to win a football game. Then doesn't suspend the program?

Anybody who goes there after the "atrocity" I personally regard as deficient either mentally or morally.


Like many things, it's all about the money. Football is an important money maker for schools. Having a winning team can bring broadcast, merchandise and alumni money. These can fund better athletic and academic programs, equipment, teachers and facilities which attract more applicants and better students. The students go out and get good jobs and support the school with more donations. People often look the other way when it comes to money.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2014 15:11     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Anonymous wrote:Penn State...
What kind of school covers up 20 years of pedophilia in the locker room to win a football game. Then doesn't suspend the program?

Anybody who goes there after the "atrocity" I personally regard as deficient either mentally or morally.
I have no dog in this fight but why would or should anyone care what YOU think about their college choice?
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2014 15:01     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Penn State...
What kind of school covers up 20 years of pedophilia in the locker room to win a football game. Then doesn't suspend the program?

Anybody who goes there after the "atrocity" I personally regard as deficient either mentally or morally.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2014 18:24     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:VT fails sooo many students in engineering. Such a shame. We keep hearing the our country needs more STEM grads. VT takes the top math students in the country and then fails them - well, 50% of them. For that reason I would go to Penn State.


This is just wrong. The kids can't hack it or don't like it and move to "easier" majors like business or English or whatever. I was in life sciences at Tech almost 2 decades ago and that was true then too. The science majors and engineering majors take a lot of science and math and they have to stick with it and learn it and take more the next year. The classes are hard and large and Tech does not coddle. There is help if you need it but you have to seek it out. You do your homework, study the material and take the test. In Chemistry, the grade was based on a mid-term and a final. No homework or any crap like that. So, if you never read your work and studied and tried to cram at the end, and a lot of kids do that, then the final grade reflected that. I went from Tech to law school and law school was the same. I did well in both.

Kids who need weekly assignments and affirmation and smaller doses and are not disciplined and do not keep up or seek out help do not do well in large sciences classes (or law school). Tech has lots of options. Sorry parents, it is the kids who are "failing" and moving on to other majors. I actually think those kids are realizing that science or engineering is not for them and they find a major that is better suited to their strengths. Tech is huge and offers so many other options--all the liberal arts majors, animal science, architecture. The world is your oyster.

GO HOKIES!


+1. The foreigners take it more seriously because if they fail, they go home where there are fewer opportunities. They are hungry and determined to succeed. And often, their families have spent everything they own and scraped up whatever they could to educate their children so they would have the opportunity to come here for a better life. And the future of the family is riding on their success. Americans switch to easier majors.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2014 18:00     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Anonymous wrote:VT fails sooo many students in engineering. Such a shame. We keep hearing the our country needs more STEM grads. VT takes the top math students in the country and then fails them - well, 50% of them. For that reason I would go to Penn State.


In no way shape or form are VT kids the top math students in the country. I'd guess that VT has a rigorous engineering program and that a lot of the kids just aren't smart enough to hack it.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2014 17:09     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
What's black blue and white all over?

The kid in Penn States trunk.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2014 15:55     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Anonymous wrote:VT fails sooo many students in engineering. Such a shame. We keep hearing the our country needs more STEM grads. VT takes the top math students in the country and then fails them - well, 50% of them. For that reason I would go to Penn State.


This is just wrong. The kids can't hack it or don't like it and move to "easier" majors like business or English or whatever. I was in life sciences at Tech almost 2 decades ago and that was true then too. The science majors and engineering majors take a lot of science and math and they have to stick with it and learn it and take more the next year. The classes are hard and large and Tech does not coddle. There is help if you need it but you have to seek it out. You do your homework, study the material and take the test. In Chemistry, the grade was based on a mid-term and a final. No homework or any crap like that. So, if you never read your work and studied and tried to cram at the end, and a lot of kids do that, then the final grade reflected that. I went from Tech to law school and law school was the same. I did well in both.

Kids who need weekly assignments and affirmation and smaller doses and are not disciplined and do not keep up or seek out help do not do well in large sciences classes (or law school). Tech has lots of options. Sorry parents, it is the kids who are "failing" and moving on to other majors. I actually think those kids are realizing that science or engineering is not for them and they find a major that is better suited to their strengths. Tech is huge and offers so many other options--all the liberal arts majors, animal science, architecture. The world is your oyster.

GO HOKIES!
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2014 15:44     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tech if you live in Virginia , penn if you live in Pennsylvania. GW if you want to burn money.


I agree with you about GW. The tuition is $48K/year.
I prefer Penn State because it has a medical school there...


Tech has a Med school now too.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2014 15:43     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Anonymous wrote:Right, pp. Should have made clear that I was assuming that the student was admitted to both schools. Kind of an odd situation that it can be easier for a Virginia resident to get into PSU than into Va Tech (which, again, is much lower ranked if one puts any stock in USNWR). Is that because there is a shortage of spaces in Virginia public universities or a surplus of highly-qualified students in Virginia?


I'd say surplus of highly qualified students. Every year I hear of a number of really smart kids who don't get into engineering at tech.

And I am one of those who do think that Penn State is overrated in USNWR. Part of the boost comes from their sports (minimized a bit by pedophilia scandal) and location -- which is more accessible than Blacksburg or West Lafayette, IN where Purdue is.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2014 11:37     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Right, pp. Should have made clear that I was assuming that the student was admitted to both schools. Kind of an odd situation that it can be easier for a Virginia resident to get into PSU than into Va Tech (which, again, is much lower ranked if one puts any stock in USNWR). Is that because there is a shortage of spaces in Virginia public universities or a surplus of highly-qualified students in Virginia?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2014 11:19     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
Anonymous wrote:I am a Penn State graduate from the 1980s who went on to a leading graduate school in a major city, so have a good basis for comparison between very different schools. Penn State is strong in the sciences, especially engineering. But it is in a very remote, not very nice town (sort of suburban sprawl without a city), and the intellectual atmosphere is not terribly stimulating. It can be a fun place, in a drinking and sports kind of way, but it is not an especially serious or enriching academic environment. And from an overall experience standpoint, nobody should be under any illusion it is comparable to U of Michigan, Wisconsin, UNC, UVa, etc. It is probably more comparable to Michigan State or Purdue, if one is thinking Big 10.

I am a little baffled why it is rated so high in USNWR, above many schools that have significantly higher admission standards. In fact, just checked, and it has lower average SATs than Va. Tech. All in all, PSU is probably comparable to Va. Tech, even though (for some reason) it is ranked much higher. Not sure why anyone from Virginia would be particularly interested in PSU over Va. Tech, even if money is not an object.


Because many VA students who can't get into Va Tech for engineering, can get into Penn State for engineering. Bar is higher for VA students at Tech.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2014 10:21     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
I am a Penn State graduate from the 1980s who went on to a leading graduate school in a major city, so have a good basis for comparison between very different schools. Penn State is strong in the sciences, especially engineering. But it is in a very remote, not very nice town (sort of suburban sprawl without a city), and the intellectual atmosphere is not terribly stimulating. It can be a fun place, in a drinking and sports kind of way, but it is not an especially serious or enriching academic environment. And from an overall experience standpoint, nobody should be under any illusion it is comparable to U of Michigan, Wisconsin, UNC, UVa, etc. It is probably more comparable to Michigan State or Purdue, if one is thinking Big 10.

I am a little baffled why it is rated so high in USNWR, above many schools that have significantly higher admission standards. In fact, just checked, and it has lower average SATs than Va. Tech. All in all, PSU is probably comparable to Va. Tech, even though (for some reason) it is ranked much higher. Not sure why anyone from Virginia would be particularly interested in PSU over Va. Tech, even if money is not an object.
Anonymous
Post 03/31/2014 19:20     Subject: Penn State, VA Tech, George Washington, how to choose?
^^^ "cull the herd " is not a good reference in a thread that includes the word "Virginia Tech".