Anonymous
03/18/2014 09:28
Subject: Re:Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cooper's building capacity is 1080, not 894. That is stated in the CIP at page 38. If it is currently configured for fewer students, that's a function of its under-enrollment and can be addressed. The enrollment at Cooper is down 100 students over the past five years to roughly 750 students and projected to continue to decline over the next few years. There is no perfect solution here, but FCPS needs to make better use of its resources and the existing space at Cooper. Ceasing to bus AAP kids from Great Falls to Tysons clearly should be one part of the equation.
Clearly the answer is either greatly reducing AAP or eliminating it altogether. It is AAP that has caused these population discrepancies and busing issues.
What's clear is that you're contorting super hard to find a reason to justify the solution you want. Transportation and logistical issues don't justify or require changes in core educational programs. Separate issues.
Of course they do. You are the one spinning just as hard as you can to try and justify the existence of AAP, the additional busing it requires, and the additional teacher training. AAP is in no way essential, or in any way a "core educational program," as much as you like to pretend it is. AAP is simply an extra, not a gifted program, not a "special education" program, and absolutely not something that FCPS should continue paying for out of its current limited resources.
I don't need to justify the existence of AAP, you're the one trying to upend the existing system. Too bad prevailing educational wisdom and policy as well as the long-standing FCPS structure is stacked against your self-interested, misinformed opinions. Time to get over it and focus on maximizing your own child's education without constantly blaming your troubles on AAP.
Anonymous
03/17/2014 15:58
Subject: Re:Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cooper's building capacity is 1080, not 894. That is stated in the CIP at page 38. If it is currently configured for fewer students, that's a function of its under-enrollment and can be addressed. The enrollment at Cooper is down 100 students over the past five years to roughly 750 students and projected to continue to decline over the next few years. There is no perfect solution here, but FCPS needs to make better use of its resources and the existing space at Cooper. Ceasing to bus AAP kids from Great Falls to Tysons clearly should be one part of the equation.
Clearly the answer is either greatly reducing AAP or eliminating it altogether. It is AAP that has caused these population discrepancies and busing issues.
What's clear is that you're contorting super hard to find a reason to justify the solution you want. Transportation and logistical issues don't justify or require changes in core educational programs. Separate issues.
Of course they do. You are the one spinning just as hard as you can to try and justify the existence of AAP, the additional busing it requires, and the additional teacher training. AAP is in no way essential, or in any way a "core educational program," as much as you like to pretend it is. AAP is simply an extra, not a gifted program, not a "special education" program, and absolutely not something that FCPS should continue paying for out of its current limited resources.
Anonymous
03/17/2014 11:22
Subject: Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Longfellow wouldn't be underenrolled if you continue to let it be the excellent center that it is-I think it should be center only personally.
Longfellow has a capacity of about 1350 students and there are about 560 students in the AAP Center there this year, so the only way you could fill it with AAP kids would be to send kids from additional schools to the Longfellow center. Which is the exact opposite is what is likely to happen.
All the feeder school also have robust LLIV.
Anonymous
03/17/2014 11:16
Subject: Churchill elementary
Not to mention, almost every Churchill parent I know would gladly drive their kid to Longfellow's center if transportation was taken away-most do already.
Anonymous
03/17/2014 11:14
Subject: Re:Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cooper's building capacity is 1080, not 894. That is stated in the CIP at page 38. If it is currently configured for fewer students, that's a function of its under-enrollment and can be addressed. The enrollment at Cooper is down 100 students over the past five years to roughly 750 students and projected to continue to decline over the next few years. There is no perfect solution here, but FCPS needs to make better use of its resources and the existing space at Cooper. Ceasing to bus AAP kids from Great Falls to Tysons clearly should be one part of the equation.
Clearly the answer is either greatly reducing AAP or eliminating it altogether. It is AAP that has caused these population discrepancies and busing issues.
What's clear is that you're contorting super hard to find a reason to justify the solution you want. Transportation and logistical issues don't justify or require changes in core educational programs. Separate issues.
Anonymous
03/16/2014 21:40
Subject: Re:Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Cooper's building capacity is 1080, not 894. That is stated in the CIP at page 38. If it is currently configured for fewer students, that's a function of its under-enrollment and can be addressed. The enrollment at Cooper is down 100 students over the past five years to roughly 750 students and projected to continue to decline over the next few years. There is no perfect solution here, but FCPS needs to make better use of its resources and the existing space at Cooper. Ceasing to bus AAP kids from Great Falls to Tysons clearly should be one part of the equation.
Clearly the answer is either greatly reducing AAP or eliminating it altogether. It is AAP that has caused these population discrepancies and busing issues.
Anonymous
03/16/2014 21:22
Subject: Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Can we get back to talking about Churchill Road???
Sure what else do you want to know?
Anonymous
03/16/2014 21:13
Subject: Churchill elementary
Can we get back to talking about Churchill Road???
Anonymous
03/16/2014 20:30
Subject: Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:That's a real shame, rather than trying to make a center out of Cooper, which is woefully unprepared to do so.
Baptism by fire.
Cooper should be hosting Langley neighborhood kids while LMS hosts McLean HS kids.
Anonymous
03/16/2014 19:52
Subject: Churchill elementary
That's a real shame, rather than trying to make a center out of Cooper, which is woefully unprepared to do so.
Anonymous
03/16/2014 19:38
Subject: Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Longfellow wouldn't be underenrolled if you continue to let it be the excellent center that it is-I think it should be center only personally.
Longfellow has a capacity of about 1350 students and there are about 560 students in the AAP Center there this year, so the only way you could fill it with AAP kids would be to send kids from additional schools to the Longfellow center. Which is the exact opposite is what is likely to happen.
Anonymous
03/16/2014 18:07
Subject: Churchill elementary
Longfellow wouldn't be underenrolled if you continue to let it be the excellent center that it is-I think it should be center only personally.
Anonymous
03/16/2014 14:46
Subject: Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because why?
Because her snowflake would be put in a less desirable school/pyramid.
Snarky! I was just thinking about the numbers. I think the PP's proposal would go too far in addressing the current under-enrollment at Cooper/Langley, make the current and projected overcrowding at Kilmer worse, and leave Longfellow/McLean under-enrolled.
Anonymous
03/16/2014 14:32
Subject: Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Because why?
To start with, because you leave out other schools assigned to Cooper (Forestville, Great Falls) and Kilmer (most of Stenwood, Freedom Hill and Westbriar, parts of Wolftrap, etc.) In addition, you only leave Longfellow/McLean with three feeders by reassigning all of the other Longfellow/McLean split feeders (Colvin Run, Sherman, Spring Hill, Westgate, Lemon Road and Timber Lane) to other pyramids. I don't think FCPS had empty classrooms in mind when it recently renovated and expanded Longfellow.
Anonymous
03/16/2014 14:22
Subject: Churchill elementary
Anonymous wrote:Because why?
Because her snowflake would be put in a less desirable school/pyramid.