Is anyone watching right now? What a mess. I wonder if he was told to be an ass for ratings, because I cannot imagine someone being so rude and unaware of how he's coming off on TV. And poor Nikki sitting next to him defending him and smiling!

Anonymous wrote:Correction: tonight Juan Pablo choses his last girlfriend (as in she's already dumped his ass)...

Haha! I stand corrected. Ur absolutely right!

Correction: tonight Juan Pablo choses his last girlfriend (as in she's already dumped his ass)...

Tonight Juan Pablo chooses his next girlfriend.

he's a boob! that's all you can really say about juan pablo.

i told a friend that i almost felt bad for the guy during the Women Tell All but he really didn't seem to get he was being ganged up on.

the takeaway here is: ISSS OKAYYY!

Anonymous wrote:Any thoughts on the Women Tell All episode? I guess nothing stood out especially strongly to me; the ones who were expected to speak (Andi, Renee, etc.,), did, and Juan Pablo 'handled' the comments as best as he could ("it's okey")...

I was surprised that so many of the women were in agreement. Normally in the "tell all" episodes, they're arguing with each other, not piling onto the bachelor. But they're take away realization was the same as mine while watching the season - he didn't seem to engage in real conversation, it wasn't clear that he could tell all the women apart, and he seemed to rely on chemistry/kissing to get out of having a real conversation. I get that it must be draining to go from having a serious moment with one person you have feelings for to then trying to establish a connection with some one else then to 15 minutes later, deep the connection with yet another person - but his coping mechanism was kissing and that just seems weak to me. I'm glad Andi had her big wake up and walked out because as a smart woman, it would drive me nuts if I can't just talk to the guy. And it's not a language issue, I've had meaningful conversations with people who've only had a couple semesters worth of English - if you have something profound or meaningful to say, that comes across even when it's in broken English with half the words missing. When you've got nothing but charming phrases and kisses, that also comes across.

Also interesting that Andi and Sharleen were defending him the most. The women most upset with him were the ones who didn't really get to know him that well and who were left to guess what his actions and word really meant. Renee, who would have been the most justified in being hurt and upset, also seemed more on his side than the others but perhaps that's just in line with her high level of maturity, which we've seen through out.

Any thoughts on the Women Tell All episode? I guess nothing stood out especially strongly to me; the ones who were expected to speak (Andi, Renee, etc.,), did, and Juan Pablo 'handled' the comments as best as he could ("it's okey")...

Anonymous wrote:Juan Pablo sometimes sounds like he is speaking in baby talk. But his accent is a major reason for the attraction. If he was Jimmy from Cincinnati, no way would all these women be swooning.

Wrong. He is hot but the minute he opens his mouth it is a buzz kill. He is like David Beckham-- smokin' hot but please don't speak.

Anonymous wrote:Juan Pablo sometimes sounds like he is speaking in baby talk. But his accent is a major reason for the attraction. If he was Jimmy from Cincinnati, no way would all these women be swooning.

Hey, don't pull Cincinnati into this!

Juan Pablo sometimes sounds like he is speaking in baby talk. But his accent is a major reason for the attraction. If he was Jimmy from Cincinnati, no way would all these women be swooning.

Anonymous wrote:So Andi left because he didn't ask her about herself much during the overnight, only talked about himself, said she was there as the default, talked about the other women, and said everything was "fine."

So he's dumb. How did she JUST notice this? Is it that she noticed because she was subject to a whole night of it, instead of just a few hours over dinner, as with the other dates? Or is this all a ruse because she just wants/needs out and wants to be the next bachelorette?

All part of the master plan. They needed her out for the Bachelorette taping.

So Andi left because he didn't ask her about herself much during the overnight, only talked about himself, said she was there as the default, talked about the other women, and said everything was "fine."

So he's dumb. How did she JUST notice this? Is it that she noticed because she was subject to a whole night of it, instead of just a few hours over dinner, as with the other dates? Or is this all a ruse because she just wants/needs out and wants to be the next bachelorette?

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Anonymous wrote:He let Renee go? Why!? He said nothing to her so I don't even get it -- he liked her family, they liked him, he said he liked her son. Is it that he really doesn't want to get with someone who has a kid -- i.e. he wants his kid to be the only one coming into the relationship?

I'm surprised he didn't cut Andi or Claire -- one's family hated him and the other's was overwhelming.

WTH happens in the fantasy suite that upsets ALL the women? I think Andi is gone next as she calls him out on being an a$$hole and he is rude enough to say she barely made it. Wouldn't be surprised if she leaves on her own. I feel like I saw a shot of Renee on that episode preview though -- does she come back??

I can't wait to watch this tonight. I went on reality steve and he had no details on it, other than who's gone, so even if you read the spoilers this is going to be a good episode!

Oops, went back on reality steve the spoilers are there. DON'T go on there if you don't want to know! I clicked off when I saw they were there.

Anonymous wrote:He let Renee go? Why!? He said nothing to her so I don't even get it -- he liked her family, they liked him, he said he liked her son. Is it that he really doesn't want to get with someone who has a kid -- i.e. he wants his kid to be the only one coming into the relationship?

I'm surprised he didn't cut Andi or Claire -- one's family hated him and the other's was overwhelming.

WTH happens in the fantasy suite that upsets ALL the women? I think Andi is gone next as she calls him out on being an a$$hole and he is rude enough to say she barely made it. Wouldn't be surprised if she leaves on her own. I feel like I saw a shot of Renee on that episode preview though -- does she come back??

I can't wait to watch this tonight. I went on reality steve and he had no details on it, other than who's gone, so even if you read the spoilers this is going to be a good episode!

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Anonymous wrote:So is Andi's career as an ADA going down the tube if she accepts the Bachelorette offer? Lawyers - feel free to chime in.

No idea but she's 26. If she graduated at 25 as most lawyers do -- her career has been all of 1 yr so far. Does she have a bachelorette offer? I think if she gets it, she will get out of the ADA gig and suddenly find herself in the entertainment field -- as a lawyer, agent etc.

I am pretty sure Andi has been the plan for the Bachelorette all along. They put her on the show to see how the audience would warm up to her, then they create some drama that means that she won't get picked. She will probably leave early on her own accord saying she knew he wasn't the one to make sure there is no 'closure' needed before she can come back as the Bachelorette. It is pretty much their formula!

YEP! Reality Steve has been saying same. I have watched this entire season and I still don't know what Juan Pablo does for a living. They showed him as some kind of sportscaster/commentator but it didn't sound like some permanent installationa anywhere.

And can he not kiss w/out doing the face cupping? So annoying!