Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with insulting impastas that have no spaghetti?

Fixed it for you!

What's wrong with insulting entities that have no soul?

Oh, for the love of Pasta and Parmesean.

As a rational, logical atheist, I want to be happy -- being a temporary fart, I would like my brief stay here to be pleasant. Not in the "stuff myself with Cheetos and crack" sense, but in the "personal fulfillment and satisfaction" sense, because the latter is self-perpetuating, while the former is short-lived and ultimately destructive. To do so, I want to help create a stable, just society, because that is the scenario in which I will be most likely to pursue and maintain happiness. The "just" part is critical, as life is random, and I can see myself being without the protection of power/money/family, and want to be able to pursue and achieve happiness even in that situation.

Hitlers are incompatible with my logical pursuit of happiness. I cannot truly pursue happiness with Hitlers around, because they could easily kill me and those I love, not to mention the general instability that kind of violence inevitably generates.

This, of course, assumes that the FSM continues to bless me and mine with the Marinara of His Grace.

Atheists have no soul. They kill and eat innumerable living things for no purpose or meaning. They are worth less than a rock that will exist long after the extinction of humanity. They are worth less than a pile of crap which although it will also turn to dust, does not kill living things or infringe on others with worthless feelings or opinions . Atheists by their own logic are at the bottom ranking of all matter in the universe.

Anonymous wrote:Well, I think this thread clarifies the "who's meaner" debate. Definitely not the atheists.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Please everyone, do not allow yourself do be sidetracked by false idols like the Flying Spaghetti Monster! The only way you can know true peace like I do is by embracing Cthulhu in your heart and accepting him as your lord and savior.

No! No! Follow Poseidon! All else is sacrilege! If you haven't been touched by his moist trident you may as well kill everyone in your family, because otherwise human life is worth less than a fart!

Poseidon's trident unfortunately lacks the requisite grandeur needed for someone to be considered as the allfather of the cosmos.

Well, I think this thread clarifies the "who's meaner" debate. Definitely not the atheists.

Atheists think they have value. ( they secretly believe in God)
It makes them mad.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop feeding the troll who has yet to graduate from Middle School.

Lalalalala.. Plug your ears... Lalalala.. Science and logic are mean... Must maintain importance of my feelings but refuse to accept a theology.... Lalalala... Make up own religion with my opinions and illogic at the core !!!! Yay ! I matter !!

Different PP, I can't figure out who the first comment was aimed at. But if it was an atheist angry about the "own it!" post, then dare I say it ... you're acting like a 5-year-old in response to this challenge to your beliefs. Or maybe you're acting like an angry, intolerant atheist, which is exactly what you accuse religious folk of doing. Don't call the "own it!" poster a troll, use your words to explain why you disagree....

The atheist in the second comment, though - wow, honey, you're a hot mess!

Both of you, this is exactly the sort of intolerance and stupidity that makes people think atheists are angry nutcases.

It's a religious person who thinks that atheists can't "matter" or stop themselves from becoming Hitler, without religion and/or god. They have made it clear that they are unable to engage in any discussion without becoming... crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop feeding the troll who has yet to graduate from Middle School.

Lalalalala.. Plug your ears... Lalalala.. Science and logic are mean... Must maintain importance of my feelings but refuse to accept a theology.... Lalalala... Make up own religion with my opinions and illogic at the core !!!! Yay ! I matter !!

Different PP, I can't figure out who the first comment was aimed at. But if it was an atheist angry about the "own it!" post, then dare I say it ... you're acting like a 5-year-old in response to this challenge to your beliefs. Or maybe you're acting like an angry, intolerant atheist, which is exactly what you accuse religious folk of doing. Don't call the "own it!" poster a troll, use your words to explain why you disagree....

The atheist in the second comment, though - wow, honey, you're a hot mess!

Both of you, this is exactly the sort of intolerance and stupidity that makes people think atheists are angry nutcases.

Anonymous wrote:Stop feeding the troll who has yet to graduate from Middle School.

Lalalalala.. Plug your ears... Lalalala.. Science and logic are mean... Must maintain importance of my feelings but refuse to accept a theology.... Lalalala... Make up own religion with my opinions and illogic at the core !!!! Yay ! I matter !!

Stop feeding the troll who has yet to graduate from Middle School.

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Anonymous wrote:What makes an atheist better than hitler? Or a rock? Why would beliefs of any type terrify a person who has no meaning in the big picture ? They are of no greater consequence than a pile of crap.

Unless you're a Bhuddist you're just like Hitler. Or a rock. Or something.

Not at all. If you are an atheist you must come to grips with the logical fact that you don't matter. You are a pile of chemicals . Your opinion and feelings are just a chemical reaction and hitler is neither good nor bad . The concept of good and bad is imaginary . You are not valuable.

Own it.

Anonymous wrote:What makes an atheist better than hitler? Or a rock? Why would beliefs of any type terrify a person who has no meaning in the big picture ? They are of no greater consequence than a pile of crap.

Unless you're a Bhuddist you're just like Hitler. Or a rock. Or something.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the logic:

For you: God => Godlen Rule => morality.
For me: Golden Rule => morality.
For Hiler: Everything for Germany!

The distinction is not God, but the Golden Rule.

The problem with your logic is that you haven't defined "Golden Rule." For religious people it's the 10 Commandments, keeping kosher, following Jesus' commands to live your neighbor, or paying zakat and doing the Hajj.

For you, the Golden Rule might involve honesty and kindness, but for someone else it might just mean, just don't kill anyone as you make your millions (whoever has the gold makes the rules). I think the PP is saying, morals can be really fuzzy if you make them up yourself. George Bernard Shaw pointed out that how I want to be treated is probably different in many ways from how you want to be treated. Basically, the Golden Rule reflects dominant societal values at the time - and that has not always been a good thing.

So no, platitudes about the Golden Rule aren't much help.

Problem here is that sprinkling deities on top of the cupcake doesn't get you any further. While morals can be really fuzzy if you make them up yourself, morals can be equally fuzzy if you make them up yourself based on your "study" of a "sacred" book. Or just "looking into your heart to see what Jesus wants you to do". Or listening to that really wise, charismatic cult...erm...I mean *megachurch* pastor who fills the pews every Sunday.