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Anonymous wrote:Well she definitely puts contour make up on and probably some (if not all) professional head shots are airbrushed, but her nose definitely looks slightly different to me:

Wow . She was really irretrievably when she was younger.

WTH, Ispell? Irretrievably = Really Pretty

Anonymous wrote:Well she definitely puts contour make up on and probably some (if not all) professional head shots are airbrushed, but her nose definitely looks slightly different to me:

Wow . She was really irretrievably when she was younger.

Well she definitely puts contour make up on and probably some (if not all) professional head shots are airbrushed, but her nose definitely looks slightly different to me:

No nose job. Another bigass photo.

http://cbssacramento.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/julie-chen-140028979.jpg?w=1500

To add, you can argue "well, is she using makeup tricks to make herself look more 'white'?" - and that may be a question worth asking. But then again, all women who wear makeup are using makeup tricks to look like something they're not, so you may not really answer anything.

I don't think she had a nose job. Some slight variation is to be expected over the course of 20 years, but it looks like makeup tricks to me.

Julie Chen without much nose contouring:
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Julie+Chen+Red+Carpet+Arrivals+Hall+Fame+Induction+AvpVRoyw1nUx.jpg

Julie Chen with totally overdone nose contouring:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Julie_Chen_Shankbone_2009_Vanity_Fair.jpg

She was prettier before. Don't like the fake plastic look

No, no nose job. You can see her contouring here - the makeup lines are rather visible.

What is remarkable is how the PC crowd feels a need to pontificate about discrimination against Chen because she is an Asian with certain facial features. I have heard a couple of discussions on TV about this subject and one has the usual tut tutting about what Chen went through but not one person has commented on the fact that she had a nose job as well which made more of an impact on her appearance than did the procedure on her eyes - something that numerous posters have mentioned because it is so obvious. She did not say anything about her nose being raised as an issue. It was vanity more than anything else but she deflects it for whatever reason to her Asian features not fitting the mold.

Try to keep up. Narrowing her nose was also an attempt to look less Asian.

And no one's arguing she wasn't trying to look more attractive. Our point is that attractive = Euro features.

PP, I think that side by side is post surgery, just her without make up (if it is her).

She most likely had a nose job

I don't think she had a nose job, or much other plastic surgery (if any) other than the eyelid lift. She's mastered the art of facelift-via-makeup-contouring.

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Anonymous wrote:The "classic" beauty ideal in countries like China, Japan, etc have always been double eye lids for almond shaped eye and a narrow nose with a pale, fair complexion for hundreds of yrs andhad nothing to do with looking Western.

You do know this is a direct result from colonialism, right. The whiter the prettier. White is right. The classical Euro features are fawned by people from Asia to Africa to South America. It is the one remaining legacy that colonialism left.

No fairer skin meant you didn't have to work the fields. Also, traditional Asian beauties were plump--a sign of wealth that you could afford to eat well.

However, Julie Chen's case, she's not trying to look white, just trying to look prettier. All cultures value symmetry in what they find beautiful. Her nose was the biggest change to her face. It's still broad, but now symmetrical.

Actually it's both. Fair skin as a commodity was prized as a sign of socioeconomic status...initially. However, with colonialism and the hierarchies used it also became a symbol of "idealized" Western beauty standards. This occurred in Asian and African nations as well as the Americas. Likewise with weight/body types.

Pretty is in the eye of the beholder. Was she unattractive before? Depends on how you gauge such things. However, her boss and manager told her changing her ethnic features would make her look more appealing to nonwhite viewers.

She wasn't not pretty before--just not pretty enough to succeed on TV.

Anonymous wrote:Didnt they do a study with babies that showed a clear preference for certain physical attributes over others... like big eyes?

I honestly do not believe it had to do with race. It was for vanity... that's fine too! she should do whatever makes her feel comfortable in her own skin but don't lie about it.

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It had nothing to do with race. It was likely her own sense of inadequacy with regard to her Asian features - not a rarity given that these types of cosmetic surgery frequently occur in most Asian countries whether or not the recipient works in media. As others have commented she worked in an industry which emphasizes appearance and superficial attributes are important.

What is remarkable is how the PC crowd feels a need to pontificate about discrimination against Chen because she is an Asian with certain facial features. I have heard a couple of discussions on TV about this subject and one has the usual tut tutting about what Chen went through but not one person has commented on the fact that she had a nose job as well which made more of an impact on her appearance than did the procedure on her eyes - something that numerous posters have mentioned because it is so obvious. She did not say anything about her nose being raised as an issue. It was vanity more than anything else but she deflects it for whatever reason to her Asian features not fitting the mold.

If a white anchor - or would be anchor - had performed cosmetic surgery on her nose or other facial features to enhance her appearance there would not be a peep about it.

Didnt they do a study with babies that showed a clear preference for certain physical attributes over others... like big eyes?

I honestly do not believe it had to do with race. It was for vanity... that's fine too! she should do whatever makes her feel comfortable in her own skin but don't lie about it.