jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Really after being called a doucheag you make this about "the type if man you aspire to be"???

That's funny in an overwrought kind of way.

Um, I am NOT THAT POSTER. I jumped in, in that PP's defense because I find Jeff's behavior reprehensible for a moderator. Again, there is more than one conservative on this board.

Interesting. A poster called me a douchebag and an asshole. I responded without name calling. But, you find my behavior reprehensible?

I think your values are a bit warped.

He called you those things AFTER you implied he was a racist. Standard tactic for you. But liberals never admit their role in anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Really after being called a doucheag you make this about "the type if man you aspire to be"???

That's funny in an overwrought kind of way.

Um, I am NOT THAT POSTER. I jumped in, in that PP's defense because I find Jeff's behavior reprehensible for a moderator. Again, there is more than one conservative on this board.

Did I say you said it?

Reread and apologize when you get around to it. Otherwise I will have to ask whether this is the kind if man you aspire to be.

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Uh, your wrong. I am not holding the first black president to any different standard. Re-read all of my posts. Quote the parts where I am holding him to a higher standard. The "fact" that you claim you to have stated does not exist in any words I wrote.

When you state that I hold the first black president to a higher standard, you imply I am am racist. Are you now denying you implied that? You claim you made no attempt to divine my motivation. Bull. A common understanding of written language indicates your implication about my apparent racist motivation is right there. You write well. Are the readers of this thread supposed to think you aren't capable of nuanced writing that implies a meaning beyond the words themselves? Get real. None of my words were racist. You state that my posts make me look racist, that is not true. Please quote the racist parts of my posts.

I did not state that your moderation made me look racist. I merely stated your moderation is crappy. This thread is a pretty good example of that being true. In your world I guess when you imply I am racist, and I deny that, that kind of post reinforces your opinion that I am racist. Wow.

I am so glad to stand by my asshole and douchebag comments. You are earning those insults every time you imply I am a racist.

Here is your first post in this thread:

"I guess the contrast between Cruz, of whom I am no big fan, and Obama is lost on you guys? Ted Cruz already released his birth certificate. It took Obama years to do this."

This was the fifth post in this thread. At that point, nobody had mentioned Obama and nobody had mentioned birth certificates. But, you come along and suddenly make the false statement that it took Obama years to release his birth certificate and suggest that this was something that should be held against him.

Your post contains two expectations:

1) President Obama should have released his birth certificate even though no previous president had done so;
2) The President should not have waited years before releasing his birth certificate (he didn't wait years, but that's a separate topic).

You claim that you do not have a different standard for our first black president. Yet, you clearly have two expectations for him that you show no evidence of having for any other president. Again, nobody in this thread had mentioned birth certificates until you brought it up. This is something you introduced, so you must put some importance on it. What is your motivation for having a higher expectation for Obama than you appear to have for earlier presidents? You have posted several times, yet never addressed this. You can blame your failure to address this on my moderation abilities or you can simply provide an explanation. That is up to you.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really after being called a doucheag you make this about "the type if man you aspire to be"???

That's funny in an overwrought kind of way.

Um, I am NOT THAT POSTER. I jumped in, in that PP's defense because I find Jeff's behavior reprehensible for a moderator. Again, there is more than one conservative on this board.

Interesting. A poster called me a douchebag and an asshole. I responded without name calling. But, you find my behavior reprehensible?

I think your values are a bit warped.

Not the poster you quoted. I'm the poster who called you a douchebag and an asshole. I stand by those comments. You plainly implied I am racist with zero information that would logically lead one to that.

So, yeah, implying that a person who is not racist, is a racist...that is reprehensible. And it is just plain crappy forum moderation.

Again. I stated a fact: You are holding our first black president to a different standard than every other president. I have made no attempt to divine your motivation. You have now posted about 4 times without offering an explanation other than the possibility that you might not like the number 44. Apparently, what ever non-racist factor is responsible for your holding Obama to a higher standard is not easy for you to explain. I'm afraid that it is not my moderation that is making you look like a racist. It is your own posts.

Uh, your wrong. I am not holding the first black president to any different standard. Re-read all of my posts. Quote the parts where I am holding him to a higher standard. The "fact" that you claim you to have stated does not exist in any words I wrote.

When you state that I hold the first black president to a higher standard, you imply I am am racist. Are you now denying you implied that? You claim you made no attempt to divine my motivation. Bull. A common understanding of written language indicates your implication about my apparent racist motivation is right there. You write well. Are the readers of this thread supposed to think you aren't capable of nuanced writing that implies a meaning beyond the words themselves? Get real. None of my words were racist. You state that my posts make me look racist, that is not true. Please quote the racist parts of my posts.

I did not state that your moderation made me look racist. I merely stated your moderation is crappy. This thread is a pretty good example of that being true. In your world I guess when you imply I am racist, and I deny that, that kind of post reinforces your opinion that I am racist. Wow.

I am so glad to stand by my asshole and douchebag comments. You are earning those insults every time you imply I am a racist.

At the beginning, we might have had some influence with the rebels, but, now, not so much.

Now who is being naive?

Were you paying attention to our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq?

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really after being called a doucheag you make this about "the type if man you aspire to be"???

That's funny in an overwrought kind of way.

Um, I am NOT THAT POSTER. I jumped in, in that PP's defense because I find Jeff's behavior reprehensible for a moderator. Again, there is more than one conservative on this board.

Interesting. A poster called me a douchebag and an asshole. I responded without name calling. But, you find my behavior reprehensible?

I think your values are a bit warped.

Not the poster you quoted. I'm the poster who called you a douchebag and an asshole. I stand by those comments. You plainly implied I am racist with zero information that would logically lead one to that.

So, yeah, implying that a person who is not racist, is a racist...that is reprehensible. And it is just plain crappy forum moderation.

Again. I stated a fact: You are holding our first black president to a different standard than every other president. I have made no attempt to divine your motivation. You have now posted about 4 times without offering an explanation other than the possibility that you might not like the number 44. Apparently, what ever non-racist factor is responsible for your holding Obama to a higher standard is not easy for you to explain. I'm afraid that it is not my moderation that is making you look like a racist. It is your own posts.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really after being called a doucheag you make this about "the type if man you aspire to be"???

That's funny in an overwrought kind of way.

Um, I am NOT THAT POSTER. I jumped in, in that PP's defense because I find Jeff's behavior reprehensible for a moderator. Again, there is more than one conservative on this board.

Interesting. A poster called me a douchebag and an asshole. I responded without name calling. But, you find my behavior reprehensible?

I think your values are a bit warped.

Not the poster you quoted. I'm the poster who called you a douchebag and an asshole. I stand by those comments. You plainly implied I am racist with zero information that would logically lead one to that.

So, yeah, implying that a person who is not racist, is a racist...that is reprehensible. And it is just plain crappy forum moderation.

In Syria, it is now pretty late to step in. At the beginning, we might have had some influence with the rebels, but, now, not so much. They might be worse than Assad.

Not the PP, but we could have used diplomatic leverage with Morsi before things got so bad. The MB was out of control, yet we continued to give aid.

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Anonymous wrote:It matters not what anyone thinks. What matters is what the Constitution says. All Cruz has to do is renounce his Canadian citizenship (he has dual).

That's got nothing to do with the birther argument, which was that a person is not a natural-born citizen if he is born on foreign soil to a US citizen. The attacks on the legitimacy of the Obama presidency were not predicated on the belief that he was a Kenyan citizen, they were predicated on the (mistaken) belief that he was born in Kenya.

(Actually, they were predicated on the belief that he was a black socialist Muslim who spend a lot of time in a Christian church where his pastor indoctrinated him with anti-American views. But he's Muslim. But I digress.)

Note that I believe "natural-born citizen" means a citizen from birth, which makes Cruz eligible to be president. But is sure is fun watching the wingnuts squirm.

Actually, the problems were caused by Obama's own behavior - and they continue.

Believe it or not, conservatives are much more concerned with his affiliation with Wright than any time he spent in a Muslim country. Conservatives issues with Obama/Muslim is how naive he is in dealing with the significant issues. It's like Carter redux in so many ways.

Examples of naivety?

Believing in the Muslim Brotherhood
Not calling terror, terror.
Wanting to close GITMO

Believing in the Muslim Brotherhood: I am sure you are a foreign policy mastermind, so kindly share how you would handle the situation in Egypt? Support a democratically elected president or support a miltary coup? How about Syria? Would you throw your support behind Assad or Al Qaeda? Those are tough situations that will likely continue ot play out for years. I don't see any naivete in Obama.

Not calling terror, terror.: WTF are you talking about?

Wanting to close GITMO Wanting to close it is not naive. He tried to close it, but he bungled the effort to do so and blamed Congress. I am still not sure how any of this is "naive". Maybe you need a dictionary.

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Anonymous wrote:Really after being called a doucheag you make this about "the type if man you aspire to be"???

That's funny in an overwrought kind of way.

Um, I am NOT THAT POSTER. I jumped in, in that PP's defense because I find Jeff's behavior reprehensible for a moderator. Again, there is more than one conservative on this board.

Interesting. A poster called me a douchebag and an asshole. I responded without name calling. But, you find my behavior reprehensible?

I think your values are a bit warped.

another Obama naïve statement: Fort Hood massacre: "workplace violence"

Ted Cruz is an anchor baby!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Again, if Hillary (or Biden) had dual citizenship, the right would not accept the "simple act of renouncing" as sufficient.

Yes, Ted Cruz is running. In 3 years. It's ridiculous that we're even talking about this.

You're wrong about that. The problem the right has with Obama is his haughtiness, which causes him no end of problems.

Exactly. That black man don't know his place.

Where did I mention race? Conservatives find him thin-skilled, vain, and terribly snotty.

Even if this is true, who cares? These are personality traits that may or may not affect whether or not you have a personal relationship with someone. It has no bearing on his policies or conduct as POTUS. Plus, hpw do you know if he is vain, snotty or thin-skinned. I would predict that he is vain since he is a politician, but unless you personally know the man I doubt if you have evidence of his " snotty" or "thin-skinned" behavior. George W. Bush seemed to be a fine fellow ( although I don;t really know), but he was a terrible POTUS. Maybe you should grow up a bit.

Sure as hell does! Please, his off-the-cuff comments tell you all you need to know.

Oh, and I forgot manipulative.

Anonymous wrote:Really after being called a doucheag you make this about "the type if man you aspire to be"???

That's funny in an overwrought kind of way.

Um, I am NOT THAT POSTER. I jumped in, in that PP's defense because I find Jeff's behavior reprehensible for a moderator. Again, there is more than one conservative on this board.