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Anonymous wrote:Pimmit Hills is trashy and always will be. People there should STFU about other areas of Falls Church. They are all nicer than Pimmit Hiils, except for Culmore and the Westlawn area. Apart from them Pimmit Hills is the worst in Falls Church hands down, try telling people in FCC or other parts of 22043 that Pimmit Hills is nice and they won't stop laughing for days.

FCC is nicer than PH, other parts of 22043 (for instance, Haycock/WFC/Idylwood) are also nicer than PH based on the totality of factors that make a neighborhood nice. 22041/22042 aren't if you look at totality of evidence, not just the looks.

So you say. No one I know in Lake Barcroft or Holmes Run would ever consider living in Pimmit Hills. Their communities are so much more attractive, they are within 10 miles or so of DC, and their kids get into schools that are every bit as good as those attended by Marshall grads. Your "totality of evidence" line is ridiculous.

Lake Barcroft is an anomaly because of the lake and the deep seated history of it being sought after before the whole area around it became run down in the 70s-80s and never came back.

Of course people would proclaim they live in the best place in the world and wouldn't move out. You need to look at information outside of what someone living in their own neighborhood believes.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but your jumble of purported statistics is less than compelling. On the other hand, it's easy enough to look at the Census explorer tool and the NY mapping and see that other neighborhoods in 22043 (both the Haycock and Idylwood areas), 22041 and 22044 are all higher-income areas with higher median housing prices than Pimmit Hills or the small area in 22046 that feeds into Timber Lane.

http://www.census.gov/censusexplorer/censusexplorer.html

http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer

Even if values per SF are higher in Pimmit Hills than some of the other areas, so what? People in the other neighborhoods live in larger homes in more attractive neighborhoods. I'd pick them in a heartbeat over Pimmit Hills.

No one lives in PH for the beauty or for architecture, it wins on other criteria. Location, schools, parks, price, commute, amenities, did I say location? But if you want a uniformly beautiful, manicured neighborhood, then it is not PH. I live in PH and admit this freely. We didn't pick it for the looks. But we are very happy here.

Then why can't you just say it works for you? Instead, you and other PH boosters keep blabbing about how it "wins" and "beats" other parts of Falls Church that are far prettier and have equally good locations, at least if you work in DC. And the schools are not that much better than the schools in other parts of the county, unless you have an unhealthy obsession with GreatSchools.

I thought I did; do you realize than more than one person likes PH and we aren't at all responsible for what anyone else says? I think that PH is a better bet than 22041/22042 but not a better bet than FCC and other parts of 22043 if you have the budget. Generally people who can afford a comparable house in FCC or non-PH parts of 22043 do not look at PH as an option, but I exclude 22041/22042 from this calculation because these areas, in my opinion, lose to PH on criteria other than looks.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but your jumble of purported statistics is less than compelling. On the other hand, it's easy enough to look at the Census explorer tool and the NY mapping and see that other neighborhoods in 22043 (both the Haycock and Idylwood areas), 22041 and 22044 are all higher-income areas with higher median housing prices than Pimmit Hills or the small area in 22046 that feeds into Timber Lane.

http://www.census.gov/censusexplorer/censusexplorer.html

http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer

Even if values per SF are higher in Pimmit Hills than some of the other areas, so what? People in the other neighborhoods live in larger homes in more attractive neighborhoods. I'd pick them in a heartbeat over Pimmit Hills.

NP I know both areas very well. Pimmit Hills has been considered a little rough in the past but the majority of 22041 and 22044 are worse than Pimmit Hills . The schools are also a major issue in 22041 and 22044.

I am surprised that the poster didn't proclaim 22041 and 22044 is better than McLean or Georgetown.

There are indeed neighborhoods in 22041 and 22044 that have higher median incomes and housing values than parts of McLean, although not Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:Pimmit Hills is trashy and always will be. People there should STFU about other areas of Falls Church. They are all nicer than Pimmit Hiils, except for Culmore and the Westlawn area. Apart from them Pimmit Hills is the worst in Falls Church hands down, try telling people in FCC or other parts of 22043 that Pimmit Hills is nice and they won't stop laughing for days.

FCC is nicer than PH, other parts of 22043 (for instance, Haycock/WFC/Idylwood) are also nicer than PH based on the totality of factors that make a neighborhood nice. 22041/22042 aren't if you look at totality of evidence, not just the looks.

So you say. No one I know in Lake Barcroft or Holmes Run would ever consider living in Pimmit Hills. Their communities are so much more attractive, they are within 10 miles or so of DC, and their kids get into schools that are every bit as good as those attended by Marshall grads. Your "totality of evidence" line is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but your jumble of purported statistics is less than compelling. On the other hand, it's easy enough to look at the Census explorer tool and the NY mapping and see that other neighborhoods in 22043 (both the Haycock and Idylwood areas), 22041 and 22044 are all higher-income areas with higher median housing prices than Pimmit Hills or the small area in 22046 that feeds into Timber Lane.

http://www.census.gov/censusexplorer/censusexplorer.html

http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer

Even if values per SF are higher in Pimmit Hills than some of the other areas, so what? People in the other neighborhoods live in larger homes in more attractive neighborhoods. I'd pick them in a heartbeat over Pimmit Hills.

No one lives in PH for the beauty or for architecture, it wins on other criteria. Location, schools, parks, price, commute, amenities, did I say location? But if you want a uniformly beautiful, manicured neighborhood, then it is not PH. I live in PH and admit this freely. We didn't pick it for the looks. But we are very happy here.

Then why can't you just say it works for you? Instead, you and other PH boosters keep blabbing about how it "wins" and "beats" other parts of Falls Church that are far prettier and have equally good locations, at least if you work in DC. And the schools are not that much better than the schools in other parts of the county, unless you have an unhealthy obsession with GreatSchools.

There is a very large difference in school quality it isn't marginal.

No one said Pimmit Hills beats all other areas of falls church.

The haycock mclean area along with falls church city is the most highest rated and expensive.

Followed by the mclean timberlane area

Followed by Shrevewood and Pimmit Hills

After that the school quality and neighborhoods gets really low and are not even near in comparison to the above areas.

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but your jumble of purported statistics is less than compelling. On the other hand, it's easy enough to look at the Census explorer tool and the NY mapping and see that other neighborhoods in 22043 (both the Haycock and Idylwood areas), 22041 and 22044 are all higher-income areas with higher median housing prices than Pimmit Hills or the small area in 22046 that feeds into Timber Lane.

http://www.census.gov/censusexplorer/censusexplorer.html

http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer

Even if values per SF are higher in Pimmit Hills than some of the other areas, so what? People in the other neighborhoods live in larger homes in more attractive neighborhoods. I'd pick them in a heartbeat over Pimmit Hills.

NP I know both areas very well. Pimmit Hills has been considered a little rough in the past but the majority of 22041 and 22044 are worse than Pimmit Hills . The schools are also a major issue in 22041 and 22044.

I am surprised that the poster didn't proclaim 22041 and 22044 is better than McLean or Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but your jumble of purported statistics is less than compelling. On the other hand, it's easy enough to look at the Census explorer tool and the NY mapping and see that other neighborhoods in 22043 (both the Haycock and Idylwood areas), 22041 and 22044 are all higher-income areas with higher median housing prices than Pimmit Hills or the small area in 22046 that feeds into Timber Lane.

http://www.census.gov/censusexplorer/censusexplorer.html

http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer

Even if values per SF are higher in Pimmit Hills than some of the other areas, so what? People in the other neighborhoods live in larger homes in more attractive neighborhoods. I'd pick them in a heartbeat over Pimmit Hills.

No one lives in PH for the beauty or for architecture, it wins on other criteria. Location, schools, parks, price, commute, amenities, did I say location? But if you want a uniformly beautiful, manicured neighborhood, then it is not PH. I live in PH and admit this freely. We didn't pick it for the looks. But we are very happy here.

Then why can't you just say it works for you? Instead, you and other PH boosters keep blabbing about how it "wins" and "beats" other parts of Falls Church that are far prettier and have equally good locations, at least if you work in DC. And the schools are not that much better than the schools in other parts of the county, unless you have an unhealthy obsession with GreatSchools.

Anonymous wrote:Pimmit Hills is trashy and always will be. People there should STFU about other areas of Falls Church. They are all nicer than Pimmit Hiils, except for Culmore and the Westlawn area. Apart from them Pimmit Hills is the worst in Falls Church hands down, try telling people in FCC or other parts of 22043 that Pimmit Hills is nice and they won't stop laughing for days.

FCC is nicer than PH, other parts of 22043 (for instance, Haycock/WFC/Idylwood) are also nicer than PH based on the totality of factors that make a neighborhood nice. 22041/22042 aren't if you look at totality of evidence, not just the looks.

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but your jumble of purported statistics is less than compelling. On the other hand, it's easy enough to look at the Census explorer tool and the NY mapping and see that other neighborhoods in 22043 (both the Haycock and Idylwood areas), 22041 and 22044 are all higher-income areas with higher median housing prices than Pimmit Hills or the small area in 22046 that feeds into Timber Lane.

http://www.census.gov/censusexplorer/censusexplorer.html

http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer

Even if values per SF are higher in Pimmit Hills than some of the other areas, so what? People in the other neighborhoods live in larger homes in more attractive neighborhoods. I'd pick them in a heartbeat over Pimmit Hills.

No one lives in PH for the beauty or for architecture, it wins on other criteria. Location, schools, parks, price, commute, amenities, did I say location? But if you want a uniformly beautiful, manicured neighborhood, then it is not PH. I live in PH and admit this freely. We didn't pick it for the looks. But we are very happy here.

Sorry, but your jumble of purported statistics is less than compelling. On the other hand, it's easy enough to look at the Census explorer tool and the NY mapping and see that other neighborhoods in 22043 (both the Haycock and Idylwood areas), 22041 and 22044 are all higher-income areas with higher median housing prices than Pimmit Hills or the small area in 22046 that feeds into Timber Lane.

http://www.census.gov/censusexplorer/censusexplorer.html

http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer

Even if values per SF are higher in Pimmit Hills than some of the other areas, so what? People in the other neighborhoods live in larger homes in more attractive neighborhoods. I'd pick them in a heartbeat over Pimmit Hills.

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Anonymous wrote:Pimmit Hills is trashy and always will be. People there should STFU about other areas of Falls Church. They are all nicer than Pimmit Hiils, except for Culmore and the Westlawn area. Apart from them Pimmit Hills is the worst in Falls Church hands down, try telling people in FCC or other parts of 22043 that Pimmit Hills is nice and they won't stop laughing for days.

I don't even live in Pimmit Hills and you are funny as hell! Why are you so defensive about your areas of falls church.

If you analyze the property value data you will see the median sales price and price per sf is much higher in pimmit hills.

I only pointed out that 22041 is considered falls church but most people call it bailey's crossroads.

You don't live in Pimmit Hills and don't know anything about 22041, either. Maybe you just make money off tearing down Pimmit Hills shacks and building the ugly McMansions. Dumb ass.

Au contraire my shit headed friend.

I know a ton about fairfax county and each zip code.

I can tell you 22041 has some of the worst performing schools and highest concentration of multi family boarding groups living in designated single family units.

What other gold nuggets of information would you like?

I don't have time to list the pros of pimmit hills over 22041.

I can break down the order of prefence for falls church addresses based on housing values, incomes and school quality.

These are the must saught after falls church addresses:

22043 McLean Haycock tied with 22046 falls church city
22046 McLean Timberlane
22043 Marshall Kilmer etc...

You're a legend in your own mind. That's all. You're just an old fart who has more opinions than brains.

In contrast with your sputtering nonsense I can provide statistical evaluations of the above supporting facts, they are not opinions..

Do as you please and feel free to pleasure yourself about your neighborhood choices, just don't convey erroneous information about others.

You don't have a clue. Incomes and housing prices are far higher in many neighborhoods in 22041 and 22044 than Pimmit Hills, the part of 22043 that goes to Shrevewood/Kilmer/Marshall is more "saught after" than the part of 22046 that goes to Timber Lane (it's not Timberlane), etc. You don't know when to stop embarrassing yourself.

I have yet to see you show me any statistical data but I will provide you some.

Pimmit Hills:
Median Sale Price $481K
Median Sale $/Sq Ft $412

Lake Barcroft:
Median Sale Price $505K
Median Sale $/Sq Ft $260

22042 Real:
Median Sale Price $391K
Median Sale $/Sq Ft $314

22041
Median Sale Price $240K
Median Sale $/Sq Ft $219

Housing values mimic the desire to go to McLean, George Mason and Marshall Pyramids.

If you could provide me with neighborhoods 22041 and 22044 that you claim are higher valued and higher income please do so and I can give you a breakdown of the differences. The above is a zip code analysis and can be skewed by different neighborhoods and housing types. The Pimmit hills and Lake Barcroft analysis is the most accurate.

Shrevewood is rated slightly lower than the other Elementary schools in Marshall pyramids and has the same rating as Timberlane.
Your argument that a Marshall pyramid is more sought after than a McLean one with equally rated elementary schools is wrong
http://www.greatschools.org/virginia/falls-church/578-Timber-Lane-Elementary-School/
http://www.greatschools.org/virginia/falls-church/567-Shrevewood-Elementary-School/

Idylwood Real Estate Trends
Sale Price $392K
Median Sale $/Sq Ft $292

McLean Timberlane oops TIMBER LANE (good catch you get a gold star for something accurate for a change)
Median Sale Price $576K
Median Sale $/Sq Ft $459

Shrevewood Elementary
Median Sale Price $521k
Median Sale $/Sq Ft $321

Anonymous wrote:My sister and I went to Poe and Annandale and we turned out ok. Went to Columbia, UVA and W& M for college/grad school. I think lots of white people are scared of the "diversity" at those schools, unfortunately.

So you attended Poe at least 15 years ago. Inside-the-Beltway Annandale has changed (and not for the better) over the last decade+.

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Anonymous wrote:Pimmit Hills is trashy and always will be. People there should STFU about other areas of Falls Church. They are all nicer than Pimmit Hiils, except for Culmore and the Westlawn area. Apart from them Pimmit Hills is the worst in Falls Church hands down, try telling people in FCC or other parts of 22043 that Pimmit Hills is nice and they won't stop laughing for days.

I don't even live in Pimmit Hills and you are funny as hell! Why are you so defensive about your areas of falls church.

If you analyze the property value data you will see the median sales price and price per sf is much higher in pimmit hills.

I only pointed out that 22041 is considered falls church but most people call it bailey's crossroads.

You don't live in Pimmit Hills and don't know anything about 22041, either. Maybe you just make money off tearing down Pimmit Hills shacks and building the ugly McMansions. Dumb ass.

Au contraire my shit headed friend.

I know a ton about fairfax county and each zip code.

I can tell you 22041 has some of the worst performing schools and highest concentration of multi family boarding groups living in designated single family units.

What other gold nuggets of information would you like?

I don't have time to list the pros of pimmit hills over 22041.

I can break down the order of prefence for falls church addresses based on housing values, incomes and school quality.

These are the must saught after falls church addresses:

22043 McLean Haycock tied with 22046 falls church city
22046 McLean Timberlane
22043 Marshall Kilmer etc...

You're a legend in your own mind. That's all. You're just an old fart who has more opinions than brains.

In contrast with your sputtering nonsense I can provide statistical evaluations of the above supporting facts, they are not opinions..

Do as you please and feel free to pleasure yourself about your neighborhood choices, just don't convey erroneous information about others.

You don't have a clue. Incomes and housing prices are far higher in many neighborhoods in 22041 and 22044 than Pimmit Hills, the part of 22043 that goes to Shrevewood/Kilmer/Marshall is more "saught after" than the part of 22046 that goes to Timber Lane (it's not Timberlane), etc. You don't know when to stop embarrassing yourself.

Anonymous wrote:Who in their right mind would rent in McLean when you can rent in not-much-lesser neighborhoods for that money? Even if you have money to burn, you know enough not to do that. RIGHT???!! Wow.

ITA. I don't think people know what they are in for when they move to certain Langley neighborhoods. Some people can barely afford it, which makes for a hostile environment, to say the least.

You would be much better off in a very close on paper neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:You could probably rent a decent (not luxury, but safe and functional) place on the budget in North Arlington... But on your rental budget, you should be able to find a SFH north of Lee Highway, I would think.

I agree with these statements. If you want to be near Arlington, and are planning to send kids to public schools, I would only consider the areas that feed into Jamestown/Williamsburg/Yorktown or Taylor/Williamsburg/Yorktown. I would avoid the other areas, since you can afford to with that budget. We rent out our updated 3BR North Arlington house in these school districts to a family of 4 plus a dog well under your budget, so I imagine you can find others.

You could also find something in your budget in the Nottingham/Williamsburg/Yorktown pyramid. All three are in 22207.