Anonymous
06/14/2013 18:36
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
takoma wrote:The point about timing has already been made byseveral posters, but since people have reapeated the 14 yea old thing several times since, let me restate the timeline:
1933, the guy is 14, Hitler becomes chancellor,
1939, the guy is 20, Germany invades Poland, starting the War,
1941, the guy is 22, US enters War,
1944, the guy is 25, Warsaw uprising in which the unit he commanded brutally repressed the Polish resistance,
1949, the guy is 30, comes to US, and lies, attesting that he never served in the army.
Hitler's accession to power is not the crime he is accused of, so please forget the "14 years old" stuff.
You go Takoma! Doin that math and schoolin' OP.
I can't believe in 2013 somebody could even think like OP let alone admit it publicly.
Anonymous
06/14/2013 18:31
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
OP is right. I mean some Jews survived. Also a few gypsies. And homosexuals. And Europeans. I personally know of at least two Polish people who survived the holocaust. Why don't we let bygones be bygones? Nazis are people too, people!
Anonymous
06/14/2013 18:11
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
17:51 you are right on point. A 14 year old AA is a man but a 14 year old Caucasian is a child.
Many do not know this, when 16 year old Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped a 7 year old AA "woman" was also kidnapped. This 7 year old "woman" escaped while the whole country was crying about the poor 16 year old "baby".
Many do not know this, when 16 year old Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped a 7 year old AA "woman" was also kidnapped. This 7 year old "woman" escaped while the whole country was crying about the poor 16 year old "baby".
Anonymous
06/14/2013 17:51
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
While I am fine with this man being held responsible, I do wonder about kids who were/are brought up within a family that is Nazi / Taliban. where what they have been taught from birth, what they have been told is right, what they have seen modeled, the values, beliefs, propaganda they have been told all have shaped who they are. Often a child deviating from the beliefs of their families would be seen as completely unacceptable and have major consequences. These kids weren't/aren't being taught to think for themselves, question authority, defy their parents.
And the age thing is interesting. we see post after post on here about how a 14 yr old isn't old enough to stay home alone, take public transit etc.. but we then say that 14 is old enough to defy family and cultural beliefs and strike out on his own? People on here refer to early twenties as still teens, not able to financially support themselves, brains still developing, partying to excess, risk and experimentation and making stupid decisions is all just part of being young but a guy the same age should stand against orders to join an army and make decisions based on a conscious that has not been developed to believe that what he is doing is wrong? To defy orders of his superiors would likely have meant his death. Would it have been noble for him to do so - sure. But would many of the 22 yr olds here would go against friends, family, leaders, country, and authorities for a cause they had been brought up to believe in was wrong, and die for it? It wasn't they they were raised to be free thinkers.
Many believe that our soldiers going to war and killing others, including innocent families and children is wrong. Right or wrong are relative to the position you hold and how you came to hold that position.
And the age thing is interesting. we see post after post on here about how a 14 yr old isn't old enough to stay home alone, take public transit etc.. but we then say that 14 is old enough to defy family and cultural beliefs and strike out on his own? People on here refer to early twenties as still teens, not able to financially support themselves, brains still developing, partying to excess, risk and experimentation and making stupid decisions is all just part of being young but a guy the same age should stand against orders to join an army and make decisions based on a conscious that has not been developed to believe that what he is doing is wrong? To defy orders of his superiors would likely have meant his death. Would it have been noble for him to do so - sure. But would many of the 22 yr olds here would go against friends, family, leaders, country, and authorities for a cause they had been brought up to believe in was wrong, and die for it? It wasn't they they were raised to be free thinkers.
Many believe that our soldiers going to war and killing others, including innocent families and children is wrong. Right or wrong are relative to the position you hold and how you came to hold that position.
Anonymous
06/14/2013 17:11
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:uhh, you could have done the math yourself. You Dinny need high level math skills or a degree in history to figure that out in your head. 94 in 2013 = very young during WWII and even younger before when the slaughter began.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Op: I say this because the guy was 14 years old when the holocaust began in january 1933. How much say could a kid really have in a camp.
Uhh, you could have made that clearer instead of your insensitive and stupid post.
Which one is it?
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Anonymous
06/14/2013 16:58
Subject: Re:I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:This is the forum where everyone must agree: the HOLOCAUST WAS THE WORST CRIME IN HUMAN HISTORY.
AND THE MOON LANDING WAS ALL A HOAX! BRB GUYZ I HAVE TO HAVE MY TINFOIL HAT REFITTED
Anonymous
06/14/2013 16:52
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
please don't start a pissing contest over this... lets just not!
Anonymous
06/14/2013 16:51
Subject: Re:I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
This is the forum where everyone must agree: the HOLOCAUST WAS THE WORST CRIME IN HUMAN HISTORY.
Anonymous
06/14/2013 16:50
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:let me get this straight, Someone throws up a horrible holocaust reference on DCUM aka tons of Jewish lawyers board and expects no fireworks? Something smells of troll.
I'm not Jewish and I'm not a lawyer. In fact, I'm Muslim and a homemaker, and I still know OP to be a dimwitted holocaust apologist. I've had the chance to visit a couple of concentration camps when we were in Poland, and it's unbelievably devastating. I don't understand how someone could be all "let bygones be bygones" when it comes to someone responsible for one of humanities biggest crimes in modern human history.
Really? The biggest crime in human history??
Which is not what pp said, OP.
Anonymous
06/14/2013 16:50
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:let me get this straight, Someone throws up a horrible holocaust reference on DCUM aka tons of Jewish lawyers board and expects no fireworks? Something smells of troll.
I'm not Jewish and I'm not a lawyer. In fact, I'm Muslim and a homemaker, and I still know OP to be a dimwitted holocaust apologist. I've had the chance to visit a couple of concentration camps when we were in Poland, and it's unbelievably devastating. I don't understand how someone could be all "let bygones be bygones" when it comes to someone responsible for one of humanities biggest crimes in modern human history.
Really? The biggest crime in human history??
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Anonymous
06/14/2013 16:47
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:let me get this straight, Someone throws up a horrible holocaust reference on DCUM aka tons of Jewish lawyers board and expects no fireworks? Something smells of troll.
I'm not Jewish and I'm not a lawyer. In fact, I'm Muslim and a homemaker, and I still know OP to be a dimwitted holocaust apologist. I've had the chance to visit a couple of concentration camps when we were in Poland, and it's unbelievably devastating. I don't understand how someone could be all "let bygones be bygones" when it comes to someone responsible for one of humanities biggest crimes in modern human history.
Really? The biggest crime in human history??
Anonymous
06/14/2013 15:59
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:New poster here
I don't give the guy a pass for old age. If he (or anyone) was truly "just following orders" I might.
The people who chose not to follow orders under that regime were amazingly brave and often paid for it through torture and death. I don't know what I would have/ could have done, in that time, under the circumstances if "following orders" meant protecting my own children.
Don't know if this guy was in fact, just following orders though.
He wasn't. He was giving them.
Anonymous
06/14/2013 15:55
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
New poster here
I don't give the guy a pass for old age. If he (or anyone) was truly "just following orders" I might.
The people who chose not to follow orders under that regime were amazingly brave and often paid for it through torture and death. I don't know what I would have/ could have done, in that time, under the circumstances if "following orders" meant protecting my own children.
Don't know if this guy was in fact, just following orders though.
I don't give the guy a pass for old age. If he (or anyone) was truly "just following orders" I might.
The people who chose not to follow orders under that regime were amazingly brave and often paid for it through torture and death. I don't know what I would have/ could have done, in that time, under the circumstances if "following orders" meant protecting my own children.
Don't know if this guy was in fact, just following orders though.
Anonymous
06/14/2013 15:54
Subject: Re:I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I found OP's picture I didn't realize he was on DCUM
This is tasteless and completely unnecessary.
You're right. This is completely unfair to Ahmadinejad.
Yes, the most notorious Holocaust denier is a British "history" "professor".
Anonymous
06/14/2013 15:52
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
I disagree OP. Even if the guy was 120 yrs old, he should be shamed for what he did.
The Holocaust was a horrible horrible event. Look up pictures and youtube videos of this terrible time and if you are truly human, you cannot help but feel terrible pain by what some people had to endure just because they were Jewish.
Anne Frank would have been 84 on Wednesday had she had the opportunity and right to live. I imagine she would have been a great writer as well as a wonderful mother.
The Holocaust was a horrible horrible event. Look up pictures and youtube videos of this terrible time and if you are truly human, you cannot help but feel terrible pain by what some people had to endure just because they were Jewish.
Anne Frank would have been 84 on Wednesday had she had the opportunity and right to live. I imagine she would have been a great writer as well as a wonderful mother.