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Can't read English? The student never "punched a staff member." She punched the SRO summoned by security and then got tased. The reality is that the administration led by the incompetent principal let a simple issue get out of hand and then tried to minimize what happened.

The student allegedly hit the SRO. Is the overspending, self promoting MCPS incapable of diffusing a simple situation?

My mistake - she punched a COP. This somehow makes it better? You're really flailing around here.

I don't think you'd ever get it. The issue is that it didn't have to get to the point where a COP was called.

I see. So you were there? Because that's really the only way you could make such a statement with any authority. Otherwise, you're just an ill-informed poster with an axe to grind.

As I said before, in your opinion, it's the school's fault the 16-yo freshman punched a cop. She bears no responsibility whatsoever.

Your kids' teachers must love you.

This is a single girl who was allegedly acting up and refused to obey a security officer. The security officer apparently called the SRO. The poster is asking a reasonable question-----wasn't there an option before calling the SRO? No need to get nasty and pull children into it.

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As I said you are not going to find stats on restraints. To answer another question a restraint hold could be applied by a teacher, two teachers, two teachers and a security guy, and so on. In a big fight (and there are more fights than are reported) typically male staff members try to get to the main combatants and lead them away in a restraint so they are not injured and so they don't thrown anymore punches.

You have not seen a fight until you see one at lunch at a middle school or high school. Kids run from all over just to watch and its an effort to break through the crowd to stop the fight.

The duties of male middle-school teachers in Montgomery County include regularly (daily? weekly? monthly?) putting students in restraint holds? (What exactly is a "restraint hold"?)

You won't find it in an job description (except in special ed) but its an expected duty. A restraint hold is inserting the arms under the armpits of the student (teacher in back) so he cannot swing or lash out and can be led away. If it goes to the ground, which it sometimes does, then you do your best.

I am not suggesting that any individual male teacher does this once a day, week, or a month. He might go two years before getting it on but in some schools fights are routine and someone has to break them up.

I'll tell you this. All principals lie when reporting fights. All of them.

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As I said you are not going to find stats on restraints. To answer another question a restraint hold could be applied by a teacher, two teachers, two teachers and a security guy, and so on. In a big fight (and there are more fights than are reported) typically male staff members try to get to the main combatants and lead them away in a restraint so they are not injured and so they don't thrown anymore punches.

You have not seen a fight until you see one at lunch at a middle school or high school. Kids run from all over just to watch and its an effort to break through the crowd to stop the fight.

The duties of male middle-school teachers in Montgomery County include regularly (daily? weekly? monthly?) putting students in restraint holds? (What exactly is a "restraint hold"?)

Anonymous wrote:Not everything is reported but this is what is reported.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/schools/04757.pdf

As I said you are not going to find stats on restraints. To answer another question a restraint hold could be applied by a teacher, two teachers, two teachers and a security guy, and so on. In a big fight (and there are more fights than are reported) typically male staff members try to get to the main combatants and lead them away in a restraint so they are not injured and so they don't thrown anymore punches.

You have not seen a fight until you see one at lunch at a middle school or high school. Kids run from all over just to watch and its an effort to break through the crowd to stop the fight.

Not everything is reported but this is what is reported.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/schools/04757.pdf

Can't read English? The student never "punched a staff member." She punched the SRO summoned by security and then got tased. The reality is that the administration led by the incompetent principal let a simple issue get out of hand and then tried to minimize what happened.

The student allegedly hit the SRO. Is the overspending, self promoting MCPS incapable of diffusing a simple situation?

My mistake - she punched a COP. This somehow makes it better? You're really flailing around here.

I don't think you'd ever get it. The issue is that it didn't have to get to the point where a COP was called.

I see. So you were there? Because that's really the only way you could make such a statement with any authority. Otherwise, you're just an ill-informed poster with an axe to grind.

As I said before, in your opinion, it's the school's fault the 16-yo freshman punched a cop. She bears no responsibility whatsoever.

Your kids' teachers must love you.

Anonymous wrote:Where would someone get statistics on this kind of thing? You wouldn't. I work in a middle school and I have seen restraint holds being applied.

I would think that MCPS requires an incident report if a student is "put in a restraint hold by three or four adult men"?

Also, who are these adult men at your middle school who routinely put students in a restraint hold? Teachers? Other staff? Police officers called to the school?

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Anonymous wrote:The problem should not have been allowed to escalate to the point that it did.

Did the school do what it should have done to talk the kid "down" before she reached the stage of anger?

Translation - it's the school's fault that this 16 yo freshman punched a staff member.

I weep for the future. (The present, too, since apparently you're a parnt.)

With people like you the future is something you should weep about. Perhaps you can tell me where in you self imagined universe there are reports that claim that the "16 yo freshman punched a staff member?"

Get you facts right before you let loose your nonsense.

Google is your friend. Here, I'll do it for you:

http://silverspring.patch.com/articles/report-montgomery-blair-high-student-tasered-by-school-police-officer

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/255317/189/Female-Student-Shot-With-TASER-at-Blair-High-School-

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22020375/school-resource-officer-uses-taser-on-student-at-montgomery-blair-high-school#axzz2S4FjXB7L

Oops.

Can't read English? The student never "punched a staff member." She punched the SRO summoned by security and then got tased. The reality is that the administration led by the incompetent principal let a simple issue get out of hand and then tried to minimize what happened.

The student allegedly hit the SRO. Is the overspending, self promoting MCPS incapable of diffusing a simple situation?

Have you ever tried to restrain or calm a completely out of control, cursing, swinging, and disruptive student? Do you know how many times a week that students are put in a restraint hold by three or four adult men? Sometimes it takes more for a particularly violent student.

Can you name the school where the events you describe happened? When? How many times a week?

Since you offered, please provide the specifics.

Specifics please. Name of school would be very important--especially when "students are put in a restraint hold by three or four adult men." Just fact checking.

Where would someone get statistics on this kind of thing? You wouldn't. I work in a middle school and I have seen restraint holds being applied.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem should not have been allowed to escalate to the point that it did.

Did the school do what it should have done to talk the kid "down" before she reached the stage of anger?

Translation - it's the school's fault that this 16 yo freshman punched a staff member.

I weep for the future. (The present, too, since apparently you're a parnt.)

With people like you the future is something you should weep about. Perhaps you can tell me where in you self imagined universe there are reports that claim that the "16 yo freshman punched a staff member?"

Get you facts right before you let loose your nonsense.

Google is your friend. Here, I'll do it for you:

http://silverspring.patch.com/articles/report-montgomery-blair-high-student-tasered-by-school-police-officer

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/255317/189/Female-Student-Shot-With-TASER-at-Blair-High-School-

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22020375/school-resource-officer-uses-taser-on-student-at-montgomery-blair-high-school#axzz2S4FjXB7L

Oops.

Can't read English? The student never "punched a staff member." She punched the SRO summoned by security and then got tased. The reality is that the administration led by the incompetent principal let a simple issue get out of hand and then tried to minimize what happened.

The student allegedly hit the SRO. Is the overspending, self promoting MCPS incapable of diffusing a simple situation?

Have you ever tried to restrain or calm a completely out of control, cursing, swinging, and disruptive student? Do you know how many times a week that students are put in a restraint hold by three or four adult men? Sometimes it takes more for a particularly violent student.

Can you name the school where the events you describe happened? When? How many times a week?

Since you offered, please provide the specifics.

Specifics please. Name of school would be very important--especially when "students are put in a restraint hold by three or four adult men." Just fact checking.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem should not have been allowed to escalate to the point that it did.

Did the school do what it should have done to talk the kid "down" before she reached the stage of anger?

Translation - it's the school's fault that this 16 yo freshman punched a staff member.

I weep for the future. (The present, too, since apparently you're a parnt.)

With people like you the future is something you should weep about. Perhaps you can tell me where in you self imagined universe there are reports that claim that the "16 yo freshman punched a staff member?"

Get you facts right before you let loose your nonsense.

Google is your friend. Here, I'll do it for you:

http://silverspring.patch.com/articles/report-montgomery-blair-high-student-tasered-by-school-police-officer

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/255317/189/Female-Student-Shot-With-TASER-at-Blair-High-School-

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22020375/school-resource-officer-uses-taser-on-student-at-montgomery-blair-high-school#axzz2S4FjXB7L

Oops.

Can't read English? The student never "punched a staff member." She punched the SRO summoned by security and then got tased. The reality is that the administration led by the incompetent principal let a simple issue get out of hand and then tried to minimize what happened.

The student allegedly hit the SRO. Is the overspending, self promoting MCPS incapable of diffusing a simple situation?

My mistake - she punched a COP. This somehow makes it better? You're really flailing around here.

I don't think you'd ever get it. The issue is that it didn't have to get to the point where a COP was called.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem should not have been allowed to escalate to the point that it did.

Did the school do what it should have done to talk the kid "down" before she reached the stage of anger?

Translation - it's the school's fault that this 16 yo freshman punched a staff member.

I weep for the future. (The present, too, since apparently you're a parnt.)

With people like you the future is something you should weep about. Perhaps you can tell me where in you self imagined universe there are reports that claim that the "16 yo freshman punched a staff member?"

Get you facts right before you let loose your nonsense.

Google is your friend. Here, I'll do it for you:

http://silverspring.patch.com/articles/report-montgomery-blair-high-student-tasered-by-school-police-officer

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/255317/189/Female-Student-Shot-With-TASER-at-Blair-High-School-

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22020375/school-resource-officer-uses-taser-on-student-at-montgomery-blair-high-school#axzz2S4FjXB7L

Oops.

Can't read English? The student never "punched a staff member." She punched the SRO summoned by security and then got tased. The reality is that the administration led by the incompetent principal let a simple issue get out of hand and then tried to minimize what happened.

The student allegedly hit the SRO. Is the overspending, self promoting MCPS incapable of diffusing a simple situation?

My mistake - she punched a COP. This somehow makes it better? You're really flailing around here.