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Anonymous wrote:Um, PP? Was your kid baptized in South America? Word on the street is that some of those old school priests are a bit hardcore when it comes to stuff like that. And the press has been reporting on it being an issue he came out on by advocating to end such silly practices.

Church doctrine is church doctrine. It is universal. A child can be baptized Catholic anywhere in the world regardless of the marital status of the parents.
But it is so much more fun to believe sensationalized, bigoted reports in the press.

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Anonymous wrote:He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?

Yes, he is South American - which is not the same as Latino. This is like calling a Boer an "African".

I remember when Theresa Hienz Kerry, who was born in Africa, ruffled some politically correct feathers when she called herself "African-American."

Shows how increasingly useless these labels are.

Anonymous wrote:I am Argentine of Spanish and Italian descent, but call myself Latina sometimes. Why can't I? This pope is just as Argentine as half the people I know here, why are you calling him Italian? Did he apply for citizenship? Not that I know of. Also, he speaks Italian like an Argentine.

Anonymous wrote:That's not true. A priest in Rockville, md wouldn't baptize my nephew bc his parents were married by a priest...I'm not kidding. Mom is catholic, dad is non catholic Christian, and they were married by some Internet pastor in a garden. Priest said my BIL would have to take a class to become catholic and they would need to redo their vows with a priest. I'm not lying. I actually called the archdiocese of Washington to inquire and complain, and the woman I spoke with guessed which local priest I was calling about. So, yes PPs....old school priests still stick to their guns on certain issues like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't fathom caring.

+1

Lots of old white men up there. What? No black Catholics? No Asian Catholics?

One of the most influential cardinals is from Ghana. Another from Philipines. Get your facts straight. Biggest growth of the church is in Africa.

Yes, I know that. So, why has there never been a black pope? And why, amongst ALL those faces standing next to the pope, we're there. I people of color?

The new pope is Latino.

I do not think this word means what you think it means.

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Anonymous wrote:He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?

Yes, he is South American - which is not the same as Latino. This is like calling a Boer an "African".

Had to google boer to see what you mean. The word means farmer. English fought a war with them in 1900, but such a nationality does not exist. Can you elaborate?

Anonymous wrote:Um, PP? Was your kid baptized in South America? Word on the street is that some of those old school priests are a bit hardcore when it comes to stuff like that. And the press has been reporting on it being an issue he came out on by advocating to end such silly practices.

Anonymous wrote:I don't see in the reporting whether he was born in Argentina or born in Italy and immigrated with his parents. If he was born in Argentina, then regardless of his heritage, he is Argentinian, in the same way that generations of immigrants came to the US from Ireland, Italy, Germany, El Salvador, Vietnam, and gave birth to first generation US citizens. If he was born in Italy but immigrated as a child, I still think that makes him more Argentinian than not, and I haven't read anything suggesting he came to Argentina as a young adult.

While I think it's kind of ironic that he has Italian heritage, I don't get the sense that anyone in Argentina or the Vatican considers him Italian.

Anonymous wrote:Word is that he wants to end the practice of refusing baptism to children of single mothers. OK, I'll admit, this is not earth shattering progressiveness in action, but Rome wasn't built in a day.

Anonymous wrote:I was rooting for "Cardinal Sean" of Boston, but this one will have to do. At least it wasn't Cardinal Weurl, who was mentioned more in the last couple of days as dark-horse because of his "efficient but won't rock the boat managerial style." But that means that Washington is stuck with him for a while longer.